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Portfolio Balancing: Avoid Over Exposure To Financial Sector
VituVingiSana
#401 Posted : Saturday, July 19, 2025 11:39:53 AM
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Posts: 18,344
Location: Nairobi
wukan wrote:
For Kenya's financing future, bank boardrooms must change urgently

Bank shareholders are not ready for this conversation, but that industry is prime for disruption.

https://www.businessdail...agnant%20in%20practice.

Try this link. The above wasn't working.

Though this (what the author says) is easier said than done.

Banks do finance on other cashflow metrics but there has to be trust on both sides regarding the integrity of the borrower. Too many stories of funny business on collateralized land. Now imagine trying to collateralize or ringfence inflows on intangibles.

Banks got choma'd on loans on cars for Uber, etc. Not necessarily the fault of the drivers/owners but the economy. Or everyone jumping into the same biashara.

Watu got burnt on their Boda and phone loans last year. Guys were removing trackers. Some were selling the bodas across the border. How are you going to track down a defaulter in Mandera?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
McGill
#402 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2025 11:24:32 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/1/2019
Posts: 106
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
For Kenya's financing future, bank boardrooms must change urgently

Bank shareholders are not ready for this conversation, but that industry is prime for disruption.

https://www.businessdail...agnant%20in%20practice.

Try this link. The above wasn't working.

Though this (what the author says) is easier said than done.

Banks do finance on other cashflow metrics but there has to be trust on both sides regarding the integrity of the borrower. Too many stories of funny business on collateralized land. Now imagine trying to collateralize or ringfence inflows on intangibles.

Banks got choma'd on loans on cars for Uber, etc. Not necessarily the fault of the drivers/owners but the economy. Or everyone jumping into the same biashara.

Watu got burnt on their Boda and phone loans last year. Guys were removing trackers. Some were selling the bodas across the border. How are you going to track down a defaulter in Mandera?



I was really wondering what happened to Watu last year btw.
obiero
#403 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2025 7:46:15 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
McGill wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
For Kenya's financing future, bank boardrooms must change urgently

Bank shareholders are not ready for this conversation, but that industry is prime for disruption.

https://www.businessdail...agnant%20in%20practice.

Try this link. The above wasn't working.

Though this (what the author says) is easier said than done.

Banks do finance on other cashflow metrics but there has to be trust on both sides regarding the integrity of the borrower. Too many stories of funny business on collateralized land. Now imagine trying to collateralize or ringfence inflows on intangibles.

Banks got choma'd on loans on cars for Uber, etc. Not necessarily the fault of the drivers/owners but the economy. Or everyone jumping into the same biashara.

Watu got burnt on their Boda and phone loans last year. Guys were removing trackers. Some were selling the bodas across the border. How are you going to track down a defaulter in Mandera?



I was really wondering what happened to Watu last year btw.

The NPL position for some of the banks, will lead to mass write off. If write off is done, hit on PBT, since collateralized lending is not fully provisioned under IFRS9. You know, I know, we all know. All the glorious profit is but a conjecture!

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#404 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2025 8:23:32 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,344
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
McGill wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
For Kenya's financing future, bank boardrooms must change urgently

Bank shareholders are not ready for this conversation, but that industry is prime for disruption.

https://www.businessdail...agnant%20in%20practice.

Try this link. The above wasn't working.

Though this (what the author says) is easier said than done.

Banks do finance on other cashflow metrics but there has to be trust on both sides regarding the integrity of the borrower. Too many stories of funny business on collateralized land. Now imagine trying to collateralize or ringfence inflows on intangibles.

Banks got choma'd on loans on cars for Uber, etc. Not necessarily the fault of the drivers/owners but the economy. Or everyone jumping into the same biashara.

Watu got burnt on their Boda and phone loans last year. Guys were removing trackers. Some were selling the bodas across the border. How are you going to track down a defaulter in Mandera?



I was really wondering what happened to Watu last year btw.

The NPL position for some of the banks, will lead to mass write off. If write off is done, hit on PBT, since collateralized lending is not fully provisioned under IFRS9. You know, I know, we all know. All the glorious profit is but a conjecture!
A write-off does not affect the P&L.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#405 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2025 4:58:08 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
McGill wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
For Kenya's financing future, bank boardrooms must change urgently

Bank shareholders are not ready for this conversation, but that industry is prime for disruption.

https://www.businessdail...agnant%20in%20practice.

Try this link. The above wasn't working.

Though this (what the author says) is easier said than done.

Banks do finance on other cashflow metrics but there has to be trust on both sides regarding the integrity of the borrower. Too many stories of funny business on collateralized land. Now imagine trying to collateralize or ringfence inflows on intangibles.

Banks got choma'd on loans on cars for Uber, etc. Not necessarily the fault of the drivers/owners but the economy. Or everyone jumping into the same biashara.

Watu got burnt on their Boda and phone loans last year. Guys were removing trackers. Some were selling the bodas across the border. How are you going to track down a defaulter in Mandera?



I was really wondering what happened to Watu last year btw.

The NPL position for some of the banks, will lead to mass write off. If write off is done, hit on PBT, since collateralized lending is not fully provisioned under IFRS9. You know, I know, we all know. All the glorious profit is but a conjecture!
A write-off does not affect the P&L.

Kaka. This is basic accounting. The write-off is reported as an expense on the company's income statement, reducing net income for the reporting period, which negatively impacts financial performance. The only exemption is for fully provisioned loans, such as unsecured borrowings

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#406 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2025 5:42:48 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,344
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
McGill wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
For Kenya's financing future, bank boardrooms must change urgently

Bank shareholders are not ready for this conversation, but that industry is prime for disruption.

https://www.businessdail...agnant%20in%20practice.

Try this link. The above wasn't working.

Though this (what the author says) is easier said than done.

Banks do finance on other cashflow metrics but there has to be trust on both sides regarding the integrity of the borrower. Too many stories of funny business on collateralized land. Now imagine trying to collateralize or ringfence inflows on intangibles.

Banks got choma'd on loans on cars for Uber, etc. Not necessarily the fault of the drivers/owners but the economy. Or everyone jumping into the same biashara.

Watu got burnt on their Boda and phone loans last year. Guys were removing trackers. Some were selling the bodas across the border. How are you going to track down a defaulter in Mandera?



I was really wondering what happened to Watu last year btw.

The NPL position for some of the banks, will lead to mass write off. If write off is done, hit on PBT, since collateralized lending is not fully provisioned under IFRS9. You know, I know, we all know. All the glorious profit is but a conjecture!
A write-off does not affect the P&L.

Kaka. This is basic accounting. The write-off is reported as an expense on the company's income statement, reducing net income for the reporting period, which negatively impacts financial performance. The only exemption is for fully provisioned loans, such as unsecured borrowings
Provisions affect the P&L. Writeoffs ni mambo za Balance Sheet.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#407 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2025 6:47:42 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
McGill wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
For Kenya's financing future, bank boardrooms must change urgently

Bank shareholders are not ready for this conversation, but that industry is prime for disruption.

https://www.businessdail...agnant%20in%20practice.

Try this link. The above wasn't working.

Though this (what the author says) is easier said than done.

Banks do finance on other cashflow metrics but there has to be trust on both sides regarding the integrity of the borrower. Too many stories of funny business on collateralized land. Now imagine trying to collateralize or ringfence inflows on intangibles.

Banks got choma'd on loans on cars for Uber, etc. Not necessarily the fault of the drivers/owners but the economy. Or everyone jumping into the same biashara.

Watu got burnt on their Boda and phone loans last year. Guys were removing trackers. Some were selling the bodas across the border. How are you going to track down a defaulter in Mandera?



I was really wondering what happened to Watu last year btw.

The NPL position for some of the banks, will lead to mass write off. If write off is done, hit on PBT, since collateralized lending is not fully provisioned under IFRS9. You know, I know, we all know. All the glorious profit is but a conjecture!
A write-off does not affect the P&L.

Kaka. This is basic accounting. The write-off is reported as an expense on the company's income statement, reducing net income for the reporting period, which negatively impacts financial performance. The only exemption is for fully provisioned loans, such as unsecured borrowings
Provisions affect the P&L. Writeoffs ni mambo za Balance Sheet.

Alright. I get your pattern. Provisions from the bad debts will affect the bottom line. Potato potato!

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#408 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2025 11:42:29 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,344
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
McGill wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
For Kenya's financing future, bank boardrooms must change urgently

Bank shareholders are not ready for this conversation, but that industry is prime for disruption.

https://www.businessdail...agnant%20in%20practice.

Try this link. The above wasn't working.

Though this (what the author says) is easier said than done.

Banks do finance on other cashflow metrics but there has to be trust on both sides regarding the integrity of the borrower. Too many stories of funny business on collateralized land. Now imagine trying to collateralize or ringfence inflows on intangibles.

Banks got choma'd on loans on cars for Uber, etc. Not necessarily the fault of the drivers/owners but the economy. Or everyone jumping into the same biashara.

Watu got burnt on their Boda and phone loans last year. Guys were removing trackers. Some were selling the bodas across the border. How are you going to track down a defaulter in Mandera?



I was really wondering what happened to Watu last year btw.

The NPL position for some of the banks, will lead to mass write off. If write off is done, hit on PBT, since collateralized lending is not fully provisioned under IFRS9. You know, I know, we all know. All the glorious profit is but a conjecture!
A write-off does not affect the P&L.

Kaka. This is basic accounting. The write-off is reported as an expense on the company's income statement, reducing net income for the reporting period, which negatively impacts financial performance. The only exemption is for fully provisioned loans, such as unsecured borrowings
Provisions affect the P&L. Writeoffs ni mambo za Balance Sheet.

Alright. I get your pattern. Provisions from the bad debts will affect the bottom line. Potato potato!

IFRS not my pattern.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
MaichBlack
#409 Posted : Tuesday, August 12, 2025 2:45:30 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,836
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
EQTY -8%, SCBK -12%, SBIC -24% down on PBT for Q1 2025. Watch and learn

And the rest???

One can subjectively selected data to say whatever they want. List for all the banks you normally track in the other thread and their percentage increase or decrease and then tell us what you are trying to say.

You can't pick 3 out 10 banks and try to push a certain narrative while totally ignoring the other 7 surely unless you trying to be dishonest.

Flat growth? An oxymoron. I hold the right to free speech. Watch and learn

What am I learning from subjectively selected data which is an outlier

You make a generic statement about an industry and then selectively pick data for 3 and ignore data for 7 to prove what exactly??


Sasa @Obiero

Brother Obiero, tafadhali soma hii alafu you comment!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#410 Posted : Tuesday, August 12, 2025 2:55:14 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,836
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
EQTY -8%, SCBK -12%, SBIC -24% down on PBT for Q1 2025. Watch and learn

And the rest???

One can subjectively selected data to say whatever they want. List for all the banks you normally track in the other thread and their percentage increase or decrease and then tell us what you are trying to say.

You can't pick 3 out 10 banks and try to push a certain narrative while totally ignoring the other 7 surely unless you trying to be dishonest.

Flat growth? An oxymoron. I hold the right to free speech. Watch and learn

Equity's PBT in Q2 2025 was Kshs. 22.9 billion!! It's strongest quarterly performance in history!!!

Not only were you monumentally wrong, you were wrong by historical proportions.

I ask you again, what is this we are supposed to "watch and learn"??

And the "speaking in code". If anyone listens to you, they would wail in a public toilet!!! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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