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Thika Road Expansion was a Mistake
ogutuwalwanga
#31 Posted : Monday, July 05, 2010 8:58:23 PM
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@Mukia you have a point the city of London is what it is because of the railway network,if it was to be subtituted with individual cars absolute chaos.Those critising you are basing what they have seen in Kenya
Wa_ithaka
#32 Posted : Monday, July 05, 2010 9:33:19 PM
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Kumagara ni kuhega.
Some of us must take a break from River Road business and travel abroad even if its to Moscow.

Rail can make a difference. Unlike the 8 lane Thika Road. Kenyans liek their cars and its guaranteed that as soon we complete the 8-lane there will be calls for 12 lane...
The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
yekeyeke
#33 Posted : Monday, July 05, 2010 10:28:33 PM
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Wale hawataki thika road to be expanded can go jump. We dont want a railway. A metro maybe.

Mukiha and the others can go stay in london if they so want.

tony stark
#34 Posted : Monday, July 05, 2010 11:26:05 PM
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@ Muhika ....
I totally disagree with you. A few points you should consider
1. The cost of building a new railway line would be much more than the cost of building the railway. Cost of steel, expertise, trains etc!
2. Building the Thika nairobi rail track will only serve as a passenger transport. Which will be a waste! For goods to travel through the rail you will require similar track size in nairobi industrial area, and all the way to mombasa. So the increased construction cost for the railway will only be to serve passengers and very few goods.That wont be cost effective.
3. Management of mass transport services and keeping time is difficult for Kenyans who suffer from timeless-itis.

And in the UK it is cheaper to use the buses and vehicles as opposed to trains for long distance journeys. The only advantage of using trans is the speed. Even in london it is much cheaper to use the buses than it is to use the tube!

Clearly road trumps train in cost but trains beats roads hands down in speed!
Outvestor
#35 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:43:42 AM
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Mukiha,
Let's see how well this shall come to pass.
http://bit.ly/b2sGXe
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Pastor M
#36 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:35:09 AM
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http://bit.ly/b2sGXe

I think we are moving somewhere..... “With the help of a metropolitan transport authority, all transport systems compliment each other rather than competing against each other,” says Mr Mukabana of Kenya Bus, “such that you can use one ticket to board a train and a bus.”
mdkmwikx
#37 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:41:57 AM
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@mukiha,

I've lived in Thika for over 20years. Ten years ago, you could travel from Thika at 7am, be at work by 8. These days standard leaving time is 5.30am.

If you leave work at 5pm, the earliest you can get home is 7.30pm. This road is carrying the hope of all the people in juja, thika, murang'a, kandara, kenol, gatundu who for their own reasons choose to commute to nairobi daily. At least when it's complete they can get to live less of their life in a matatu.

PS; Most people who commute to nairobi from the said areas live in their own houses or are in the process of getting their own. And most of the flats in zimmerman, kasarani, thome are owned by guys from these areas too.
Horton
#38 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:14:07 AM
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yekeyeke wrote:
@Mukiha. Wewe ni P***u. If you have a plane to take you to various places, why do you want us, wealth earners on thika road to use trains? Have you ever in your short life been inside a train?. Bure kabisa.

The KES 26B thats being spent on thika road is the best money ever to be spent on any road in kenya.

I supporse that you also strongly feel that the bypass money should also have been spent on a project of your choice?

Did you ever study ecomonics in school? Do you know the link between GDP growth and infstructure?

Wewe you need some serious prayers.

Trains and people of thika road do not mix. We are not cows!!!!!! to ride on trains.

Wewe nyamaza tu to see the road get completed and then you can move to thika road as well. We have seen property appreciate in nairobi, only in areas where there is infrastructure.

Kama Thika road inajaa, una shida gani. Kama umeona Green intashindwa kwa referndum, ulituletee sisi.

Wacha barabara ijengwe.

-How do you go shoping with a train?
-How do kids go to school in a train?
-How do you deliver produce in a train?
-How do you ask +80K cars users a day to use a train.
-Wewe ni P***u!!!!



Dude...in the west, they go shopping, school, work etc in the train! Look at the underground in London or the subway in NYC.

However, the road does need expansion for sure! Nothing that my chum Mukiha will do or say, is going to stop that...!

Infact, if anyone here has been to Amsterdam, you probably know that they have the best train system in western europe with their double decker, silent trains and that they are always constructing roads all over the City



anasazi
#39 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:27:13 AM
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@yekeyeke, you're being too emotional. Try and argue rationally.

I think both sides have an argument. The main thing would be that starting from NOW (rather than waiting for the next transport crisis), we need to expand ALL alternative modes of transport. Rail must be upgraded, as well as road, and there needs to be a decent way for bicycle users to travel (rather than risking dear life on motor ways). I think we also need to have public transport be clean and decent, so that it draws back those who think it's a "poor" man's means of transport.
Form is temporary, class is permanent
yekeyeke
#40 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:53:13 AM
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@ Mukiha

I one again challenge you to read the contents of the below link and after you have done so, i dare you to continue insisting that thika road expansion was a mistake.
Are you serious to urgue that all the decision makers at the African Development bank do not understand the difference between a road and a rail line?


http://www.afdb.org/file...IKA-HIGHWAY-PROJECT.PDF

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