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Property bubble bursts
Horton
#31 Posted : Monday, July 03, 2017 3:30:04 PM
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In Syokimau that was bound to happen. The aforementioned Sunset Boulevard has a pungent smell of Nyake from KMC. Think about waking up to that "fresh" smell every morning.

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Angelica _ann
#32 Posted : Monday, July 03, 2017 3:40:06 PM
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However, there is another class referred to as the “floating middle class” which are not poor but can fall into poverty courtesy of a small disturbance on their economic well-being.


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obiero
#33 Posted : Monday, July 03, 2017 3:40:34 PM
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A housing shortage exists but the common man hasn't been factored into plans of the real estate developers.. The drop in rent is expected and long overdue

obiero
#34 Posted : Monday, July 03, 2017 3:42:55 PM
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A housing shortage exists but the common man hasn't been factored into plans of the real estate developers.. The drop in rent is expected and long overdue

Magunia
#35 Posted : Monday, July 03, 2017 6:11:49 PM
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Allow me to chime in
According to an article by Duncan Miriri "there were less than 25,000 mortgages in Kenya and mortgage debt made up just 3.15 percent of the GDP in 2015."
Those saying that there will be a real estate bubble burst are mistaken. In Kenya the banks protect themselves very well.
The only way rent prices will go down is by oversupply of homes by the government. That is not going to happen because of the ppp thing

http://www.reuters.com/a...-worldbank-idUSL9N13C01R
obiero
#36 Posted : Monday, July 03, 2017 7:34:05 PM
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Magunia wrote:
Allow me to chime in
According to an article by Duncan Miriri "there were less than 25,000 mortgages in Kenya and mortgage debt made up just 3.15 percent of the GDP in 2015."
Those saying that there will be a real estate bubble burst are mistaken. In Kenya the banks protect themselves very well.
The only way rent prices will go down is by oversupply of homes by the government. That is not going to happen because of the ppp thing

http://www.reuters.com/a...worldbank-idUSL9N13C01R

The said bubble burst isn't countrywide.. And NSSF have capacity to deliver Kenyans from this economic suicide by replication of BuruBuru, Nyayo Estate etc But they would rather chase mirage of NBK shares and Hazina Towers.. This country is f×cked up!

heri
#37 Posted : Tuesday, July 04, 2017 8:07:31 AM
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[quote=Magunia]Allow me to chime in
According to an article by Duncan Miriri "there were less than 25,000 mortgages in Kenya and mortgage debt made up just 3.15 percent of the GDP in 2015."
Those saying that there will be a real estate bubble burst are mistaken. In Kenya the banks protect themselves very well.
The only way rent prices will go down is by oversupply of homes by the government. That is not going to happen because of the ppp thing

http://www.reuters.com/a...worldbank-idUSL9N13C01R[/quote]

But i think it is wrong to just look at the number of mortgage.

A good number of people finance the property purchase through personal bank loans/sacco loans etc
obiero
#38 Posted : Tuesday, July 04, 2017 8:19:14 AM
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heri wrote:
[quote=Magunia]Allow me to chime in
According to an article by Duncan Miriri "there were less than 25,000 mortgages in Kenya and mortgage debt made up just 3.15 percent of the GDP in 2015."
Those saying that there will be a real estate bubble burst are mistaken. In Kenya the banks protect themselves very well.
The only way rent prices will go down is by oversupply of homes by the government. That is not going to happen because of the ppp thing

http://www.reuters.com/a...worldbank-idUSL9N13C01R[/quote]

But i think it is wrong to just look at the number of mortgage.

A good number of people finance the property purchase through personal bank loans/sacco loans etc

For smaller houses yes, but property worth KES 6m or more, a mortgage may be necessary

maka
#39 Posted : Tuesday, July 04, 2017 8:35:39 AM
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obiero wrote:
Magunia wrote:
Allow me to chime in
According to an article by Duncan Miriri "there were less than 25,000 mortgages in Kenya and mortgage debt made up just 3.15 percent of the GDP in 2015."
Those saying that there will be a real estate bubble burst are mistaken. In Kenya the banks protect themselves very well.
The only way rent prices will go down is by oversupply of homes by the government. That is not going to happen because of the ppp thing

http://www.reuters.com/a...worldbank-idUSL9N13C01R

The said bubble burst isn't countrywide.. And NSSF have capacity to deliver Kenyans from this economic suicide by replication of BuruBuru, Nyayo Estate etc But they would rather chase mirage of NBK shares and Hazina Towers.. This country is f×cked up!


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quicksand
#40 Posted : Tuesday, July 04, 2017 8:42:56 AM
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Magunia wrote:

Allow me to chime in
According to an article by Duncan Miriri "there were less than 25,000 mortgages in Kenya and mortgage debt made up just 3.15 percent of the GDP in 2015."
Those saying that there will be a real estate bubble burst are mistaken. In Kenya the banks protect themselves very well.
The only way rent prices will go down is by oversupply of homes by the government. That is not going to happen because of the ppp thing

http://www.reuters.com/a...worldbank-idUSL9N13C01R



I am convinced there is creative accounting and mis-reporting going on at banks. Some of them should be quite distressed. There must be a lot of capital tied up in half-finished projects or in projects completed but with no occupancy or buyers, which means the owners are not servicing loans. These loans should be in bad debt / write-down territory now, fire sale mode. But no, everyone remains stiff lipped, probably hoping things will turn around, the turds in the books remain hidden somehow cause the fundamentals don't appear badly off, it is all hunky-dory.
What if there is no turn-around in the next 5 to 10 years? How bad are the books I wonder? Will it be another Nakumatt-like scenario, a shiny edifice that is hollow inside?
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