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animosity towards muslims of somali origin
Bashka
#31 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:49:09 AM
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What happened on Friday was disgraceful. The demonstrators were wrong to go to the streets, but also the police erred in allowing the business men to throw stones in retaliation. Indeed we are lucky that things cooled down fast. Some of the media tried to preach Kenyans to reason, and I salute KTN and Citizen for responsible reporting. Once again a media house was reporting very negative (see the headline of one daily, yesterday).
Also Muslim leaders condemned the demos; please read yesterdays newspapers for information. Some people are linking this to Alshabab, because of the flag, all this is wrong.
It seems Kenyans are very forgetful. Our experience with the post-poll violence in 2008 should be an eye opener………..
@Bkismat, the information is welcome, but it’s wrong to compare Nigeria to Kenya.
Njung'e
#32 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:04:33 AM
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The so called moderate muslims in Kenya (and the world over),are known to look the other way as long as it is not one of them.When the extremists hit the USA embassy did they raise a finger?...Kikambala??...When that Jamaican idiot arrived in Kenya,we expected the muslim community to renounce him....Here is a fellow who has been jailed in Britain for advocating the killling of all jews and Indians...huh??....What did we get?..The moderates kept mum and the extremists came out to the streets,destroyed innocent businesses,"slit our throats",shot at our soldiers and hell....waved a foreign terrorist flag on OUR land.......Is this not madharau of the highest order??
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Magigi
#33 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:10:04 AM
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@Moderator;
OK let us put this way; The Only Good Indian is a Dead Indian
Origins of Sayings -
The Only Good Indian is a Dead Indian
About the history and origins behind the famous saying the only good Indian is a dead Indian.
Stories behind Famous Sayings
The Saying: THE ONLY GOOD INDIAN IS A DEAD INDIAN.
Who Said It: Gen. Philip Sheridan
When:1869
The Story behind It: In January, 1869, General Sheridan held a conference with 50 Indian chiefs at Fort Cobb in the so-called Indian Territory (later part of Oklahoma). At that time, Sheridan, who had gained recognition as a Union officer in the Civil War, was in charge of the Dept. of the Missouri. One of his duties was to oversee the Indian Territory, making sure that the Indians remained on their reservations and did not harass the white settlers. When Comanche chief Toch-a-way was introduced to Sheridan at the conference, the Indian said, "Me Toch-a-way, me good Indian." Sheridan reportedly smirked and replied, "The only good Indians I ever saw were dead." Later on, the remark became "The only good Indian is a dead Indian."

Magigi
#34 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:24:48 AM
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@Njung'e: ...tell them...tell them more...and these people, no, muslims are planning another mayhem on Friday... my foot...
Njung'e
#35 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:30:40 AM
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@Bashka,
To much of a coincidence my dear brother....Jos in Nigeria....Christians killed in Egypt.....Churches burnt in Malaysia....Failed attempt on a detroit flight....All in one month.Truth is,it is time Islam examined itself as a religion in the way it relates with others(Kaffirs?.

@Magigi,
Not surprised.To a muslim,maybe the only good kaffir is a dead kaffir....whatever that means.

Planning another Demon-stration??.....See,there is no lesson learnt by this idiots.....and non of the so said "moderates",including some hypocrites here, will come out to condemn...until after Friday.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Magigi
#36 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:36:29 AM
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@ Njung'e
the only good kaffir is a dead kaffir
That is exactly the opposite of what I mean and that is what the Wazua Moderator deleted...
B.Timer
#37 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:48:13 AM
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@ Bashka
A little more honesty sir!

If in the days preceeding Friday last, the larger Muslim fraternity had disuaded the pro demo group from persuing their ill advised idea we would give credit.
The act of indifference over the matter actually renders many guilty by association.
They neglected to stand up to be counted -an error of ommision - this time deliberately.

Now did you accuse the police for not doing anything to protect the Muslim demonstartors from the general public that engaged them out of frustration and loss of business!!

Surely did you expect the police now to loose focus on and start fighting everybody and anybody.
What confusion would that be, containing the Muslim rioters and at the same time chasing the business community all over.

In any case we know that the police largely did nothing/very little. They watched the situation as their central command seemed hesitant on making the right decision - to get the Muslims engaged as law breakers. It is this lack of action by the police that prompted the business community to take it upon themselves to repulse the Muslims.

Hence just as the police watched the muslims, so did they watch the business people.

If the police are aloof they are aloof for everybody.
I actually accuse the police for being aloof in the first place. The general public wouldnt have gotten in the cross fire if the police had handled the matter as they should.
Dunia ni msongamano..
marting
#38 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:33:12 AM
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all this boils down to religious intolerance, the saying,'the only good kaffir is a dead one'(or opposite) should not be encouraged. religious intolerance is right down negative(rem christian pastor who stated that Haiti got what it deserved because of idol worship???)!!moderation should be promoted and yes the council of islam kenya did disown the firebrand jamaican cleric/idiot(njunge), i personally believe that these fellas (moderate muslims) shld go to the mosque and work on friday and not disrupt the rest of us with this backward protest hence creating division to support an intruder whom no one wants!!!surely when not liked by a few, maybe thats normal, but when the whole world denies you...then, maybe then...theres something wrong with you!!
.Success is Intentional.
bkismat
#39 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:46:53 AM
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@ marting. no half truths please. not "idol worship" but for making a pact with the devil so that they could kick out the french.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
muganda
#40 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:09:17 AM
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Many times, we have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another.
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