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Conversion of Christianity to Islam
AlphDoti
#31 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:34:00 PM
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@Magigi: again I see from your post references of actions done by individual.

If I steal and I'm Christian does that mean Christianity teaches stealing?



Jihad is often mistakenly described as 'holy war.'

Again I ask you to learn first.

Explore what the true meaning of Jihad is:

a constant struggle to preserve one's faith and defend the rights to freedom of worship.



So discuss basis,not what people who claim to be religious do.
sheep
#32 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:10:00 PM
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Do whatever you want to do with the nazarene.
1JOHN 5:10-12

'He that believes on the son of God has the witness in himself:he that believes not God,has made him a liar;because he believes not the record that God made of his son,and this is the record,that God has given us eternal life,and this life is in his son.He that has the son has life;and he that has not the son of God has no life'
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
Finje
#33 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:25:00 PM
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Ma brother ... I can see that you're tired of being conned into worshipping a white man.

Let more follow suit. Can't we see that our problems lie with being forced by the colonialists into this.

To the nay sayers - were IEDs and mass murdering modern explosives invented by muslims?


The man he thinks he can,and the one who thinks he can't are both right. Which one are you?
Ngalaka
#34 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33:00 PM
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@Baskha,Alphadoti,alpha,Rassa and others of same persuation.
There is something in Islam that makes the followers drift into militarism.
A few may choose to remain level headed,and in this respect it's hats off for @ Bashka.
But the thread that runs across the Islam umma is - destroy anything that is perceived to be anti-Islam - Never mind that it may not appear in the books explicitly.
Criticism is not tolerated period.
There are misdemeanors that can be atributed to individuals,but most of what we see and read about,is clearly sanctioned by the rank and file.

Fellows against whom fatwa has been declared,- Rushdie,the Danish cartoon artists/jounalists,the Somali-Dutch lady turned Islam-critic live in terror!!!!
Because of this religion,supposedly full of compassion,these souls keep looking over their shoulders lest someone blows himself up,primarily targeting them.



Things arent always the way they look like
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
ogutuwalwanga
#35 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:39:00 PM
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To me is like changing political parties eg from PNU to ODM and vice versa,you still remain the same person may be worse.Look at Kirautu Murungi and you know what am talking about.

ogutu
Magigi
#36 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:45:00 PM
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...a small innocent child is strapped with bombs by his father around his waist and send to an Israelite shop across by a Palestinian who is a devout Muslim. As soon as he gets there the father,through a remote control detonates the bombs,killing the child and others. What kind of religion is that?
Ngalaka
#37 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:16:00 PM
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No need of living in denial.
Once a muslim if you choose to quit the religion,you become a marked man/woman.
Cases abound of fellows who attempted to abandon the religion and were faced with lots of hostility/violence from other muslims/family.
The latest case is of a somali family who have gone through hell.

Of all religions of the world,Islam stands out as a sore thumb in its violent and intolerant nature.

Things arent always the way they look like
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Wendz
#38 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:21:00 PM
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May be what many people have not realised is that those who do the same thing in the name of Islam are like the guys of kinagop who were building some houses in holes/wells and carrying old worn out gas-masks claiming end of the world... That not withstanding,the fact that it doesnt receive alot of condemning from our Muslim brothers makes it look like they condone such acts.

Sometimes i ask myself,Christians are around 33% of all population in the world. Will God send all the other 70% to hell? Note am a staunch christian and i do not doubt christianity in any way... just those thoughts that go unanswered.


Basic information on various religions:



Religion
Date Founded
Sacred Texts
Membership 5
% of World 6


Christianity
30 CE
The Bible
2,039 million
32% (dropping)


Islam
622 CE
Qur'an & Hadith
1,226 million
19% (growing)


Hinduism
1500 BCE with truly ancient roots
Bhagavad-Gita,Upanishads,& Rig Veda
828 million
13% (stable)


No religion
(Note 1)

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None
775 million
12% (dropping)


Chinese folk rel.
270 BCE
None
390 million
6%


Buddhism
523 BCE
The Tripitaka & Sutras
364 million
6% (stable)






Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.
B.Timer
#39 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:09:00 PM
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@Wendo

Very rational question you've posed there about wasting about 70% of worlds population.
But then religion abhors logical thinking.
Its all unquestioning and unbrindled faith. You ask a question you are admonished,excommunicated,branded anti-christ etc.
Take into account that of the 33% only a negligible fraction is truly practising
The logical conclusion,in that context,therefore,is that less than 5% of world population would go past the gates manned by St Peter.

Same reasoning would apply to Islam and all the rest.

May I therefore submit that all these religions,unwittngly make God seem brutal and heartless,as to consign such populations to eternal suffering.

In fact,if that be case,between God and Satan,then the devil wins overwhelmingly.
He was more convincing and carried the numbers.

If that is untenable,then the teachings are grossly wrong.
I throw my weight with the latter.

B.timer
Dunia ni msongamano..
VituVingiSana
#40 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:26:00 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,382
Location: Nairobi
According to Wendz's table,the only old religions... is Hinduism!

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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