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Most water secure Nairobi suburb...
limanika
#31 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2019 11:06:20 AM
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Nairobi has become a concrete jungle as everyone builds beacon to beacon. This means the water table will keep getting shallow coz there isnt much area left for rainwater to percolate downwards and recharge the aquifers. If we had good researchers in our universities, by now we would be have projections how long it will take for aquifer to dry up or become too shallow to make economic sense. And then come up with ways to mitigate. For instance, be law, each and every built up plot should have some area reserved for soft landscape where rainwater water percolates to the ground
hardwood
#32 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:27:07 PM
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This is the gabanas solution to the water problem. Sad...


Fyatu
#33 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:01:57 PM
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hardwood wrote:
This is the gabanas solution to the water problem. Sad...





The problem is not Sonko...the problem lies in those ugly flats hapo nyuma.
My naked eye tells me that one ugly flat hapo nyuma easily has 50 units housing 50 families/bachlors/spinsters (tamaa ita waua). Some roomsin that ugly thing hapo have never experienced sunlight and yet Kenya lies squarely on the Equator. I can wager my balls that the sewage mechanism in those flats is substandard, illegal and most likely broken.

If you research a little deeper you will find out that the same water/sewage infrastructure that was built by either mubeberu government or old Jomo government is the same infrastructure in use today in this neighborhood. Kenyan government has been in total slumber since 1970.

Sonko is just being magnanimous by providing short-term solution because he knows very well that the long term solution is bringing Sany and flattening all those ugly things hapo nyuma and forcing landlords to re-build functional and well planned real-estate. The only other solution is Nairobi county government building a brand new mini city huko Mavoko or Ruai in the same scale as Nova Cidade de Kilamba(google is your friend). Meanwhile, let Kenyans continue eating jeuri yao pole pole
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Gathige
#34 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:28:29 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
hardwood wrote:
This is the gabanas solution to the water problem. Sad...





The problem is not Sonko...the problem lies in those ugly flats hapo nyuma.
My naked eye tells me that one ugly flat hapo nyuma easily has 50 units housing 50 families/bachlors/spinsters (tamaa ita waua). Some roomsin that ugly thing hapo have never experienced sunlight and yet Kenya lies squarely on the Equator. I can wager my balls that the sewage mechanism in those flats is substandard, illegal and most likely broken.

If you research a little deeper you will find out that the same water/sewage infrastructure that was built by either mubeberu government or old Jomo government is the same infrastructure in use today in this neighborhood. Kenyan government has been in total slumber since 1970.

Sonko is just being magnanimous by providing short-term solution because he knows very well that the long term solution is bringing Sany and flattening all those ugly things hapo nyuma and forcing landlords to re-build functional and well planned real-estate. The only other solution is Nairobi county government building a brand new mini city huko Mavoko or Ruai in the same scale as Nova Cidade de Kilamba(google is your friend). Meanwhile, let Kenyans continue eating jeuri yao pole pole


The long term solution is huko Muranga, so called Northern Collector Tunnel. Sonko knows he has max 10 yrs to do work and his short term solutions just keeps him longer and meets the needs of the day.


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MugundaMan
#35 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:40:19 PM
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limanika wrote:

Nairobi has become a concrete jungle as everyone builds beacon to beacon. This means the water table will keep getting shallow coz there isnt much area left for rainwater to percolate downwards and recharge the aquifers. If we had good researchers in our universities, by now we would be have projections how long it will take for aquifer to dry up or become too shallow to make economic sense. And then come up with ways to mitigate. For instance, be law, each and every built up plot should have some area reserved for soft landscape where rainwater water percolates to the ground


The funniest thing is we are concerned about letting MASSIVE AMOUNTS of rain water percolate into aquifers but not concerned about harvesting said rainwater to meet all our needs with some left over to feed kuku with. Sometimes when I see media crying about drought for 8 months and then cry even harder about floods in the mtaros and streets for the remaining 4 months of the year I do not know whether to cry or laugh hysterically.

Fyatu
#36 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 2:02:59 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
hardwood wrote:
This is the gabanas solution to the water problem. Sad...





The problem is not Sonko...the problem lies in those ugly flats hapo nyuma.
My naked eye tells me that one ugly flat hapo nyuma easily has 50 units housing 50 families/bachlors/spinsters (tamaa ita waua). Some roomsin that ugly thing hapo have never experienced sunlight and yet Kenya lies squarely on the Equator. I can wager my balls that the sewage mechanism in those flats is substandard, illegal and most likely broken.

If you research a little deeper you will find out that the same water/sewage infrastructure that was built by either mubeberu government or old Jomo government is the same infrastructure in use today in this neighborhood. Kenyan government has been in total slumber since 1970.

Sonko is just being magnanimous by providing short-term solution because he knows very well that the long term solution is bringing Sany and flattening all those ugly things hapo nyuma and forcing landlords to re-build functional and well planned real-estate. The only other solution is Nairobi county government building a brand new mini city huko Mavoko or Ruai in the same scale as Nova Cidade de Kilamba(google is your friend). Meanwhile, let Kenyans continue eating jeuri yao pole pole


The long term solution is huko Muranga, so called Northern Collector Tunnel. Sonko knows he has max 10 yrs to do work and his short term solutions just keeps him longer and meets the needs of the day.





The long-term solution is demolishing those ugly things and building functional "green" houses that harvest rain water,houses that allow natural lighting and houses that have bio-digestors as @Mugundaman has been trying to educate Kenyans. The Murang'a solution interferes with users downstream and eco-systems eventually destroying heritage for future generations.

The other only alternative is building a new city and leave those greedy landlords of Nairobi who have exploited Kenyans for eons on their own.....even Nigerians abandoned filthy Lagos
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
murchr
#37 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 4:02:45 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
hardwood wrote:
This is the gabanas solution to the water problem. Sad...





The problem is not Sonko...the problem lies in those ugly flats hapo nyuma.
My naked eye tells me that one ugly flat hapo nyuma easily has 50 units housing 50 families/bachlors/spinsters (tamaa ita waua). Some roomsin that ugly thing hapo have never experienced sunlight and yet Kenya lies squarely on the Equator. I can wager my balls that the sewage mechanism in those flats is substandard, illegal and most likely broken.

If you research a little deeper you will find out that the same water/sewage infrastructure that was built by either mubeberu government or old Jomo government is the same infrastructure in use today in this neighborhood. Kenyan government has been in total slumber since 1970.

Sonko is just being magnanimous by providing short-term solution because he knows very well that the long term solution is bringing Sany and flattening all those ugly things hapo nyuma and forcing landlords to re-build functional and well planned real-estate. The only other solution is Nairobi county government building a brand new mini city huko Mavoko or Ruai in the same scale as Nova Cidade de Kilamba(google is your friend). Meanwhile, let Kenyans continue eating jeuri yao pole pole


The long term solution is huko Muranga, so called Northern Collector Tunnel. Sonko knows he has max 10 yrs to do work and his short term solutions just keeps him longer and meets the needs of the day.





The long-term solution is demolishing those ugly things and building functional "green" houses that harvest rain water,houses that allow natural lighting and houses that have bio-digestors as @Mugundaman has been trying to educate Kenyans. The Murang'a solution interferes with users downstream and eco-systems eventually destroying heritage for future generations.

The other only alternative is building a new city and leave those greedy landlords of Nairobi who have exploited Kenyans for eons on their own.....even Nigerians abandoned filthy Lagos



No it will not but its abit late.

Is the law barring landlords and home owners from harvesting water still operational?

Idealy almost every estate with over 100K people should have its own reservoir, managed by the water company instead of those 12K 10K tanks that hoard water
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Kusadikika
#38 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 6:09:00 PM
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I did a bit of research after I started this thread and I found it. The most water secure Nairobi suburb is Old Runda and Mimosa. They have their own Water Service Company that is owned and managed by the residents.

You can read about it here:

http://rundawater.co.ke/home/

For the common mwananchi the other estate with decent water management is Nyayo Embakasi. They do not get water every day but the water is very professionally managed. They have a central collection and storage and then they ration so that everyone gets some on a predictable schedule.

You can see how they do it here:

Kusadikika
#39 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 6:16:37 PM
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I also found small places I had never heard of in Eastlands that also never lack water. Example is an Estate called Pioneer near Buruburu.
Kusadikika
#40 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 6:20:45 PM
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On the other extreme side it was shocking to discover that some places like Woodley in the old city council houses they have never seen water coming out of the tap for more than 10 years. Apparently the old underground water pipes rusted and got blocked and they need to be dug up and replaced.
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