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CIC Insurance 2019
Ericsson
#31 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 4:52:47 PM
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heri wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Queen wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Profit warning pap


No wonder the CEO took off in a huff.

CEO was fired


Is that so? for non performance?
Set targets were not being achieved and he was getting a handsome salary

i also heard the previous CEO had bought overpriced land

The land was for future real estate development,at that time economy was doing well so they anticipated price appreciation was to continue
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#32 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 6:15:46 PM
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heri wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Profit warning pap
Seriously? after i went all in at 3 bob to lower my ABP


Dividend will either be halved or no dividend and shareholders be compensated with a bonus issue
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Angelica _ann
#33 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 6:16:15 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,935
Ericsson wrote:
heri wrote:
Metch wrote:
heri wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Profit warning pap
Seriously? after i went all in at 3 bob to lower my ABP


U should have seen this coming after H1 results. I dumped mine immediately after H1 results at 3.35 taking a loss of 20k. Bought Coop at 11.80. took my 150k profits at 16.00. life continues,,,
Dump now,,, the race to 2bob is on



But for next year, won't there be some significant savings on the interest they were paying on the bond?


Company has zero debt.
Full disclosures to be known when they release full year results in 3.5 months time


Where did they get the money to fully settle the bond liability?

Did they ever sell any of the parcels of land they advertised?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#34 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 6:38:24 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
heri wrote:
Metch wrote:
heri wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Profit warning pap
Seriously? after i went all in at 3 bob to lower my ABP


U should have seen this coming after H1 results. I dumped mine immediately after H1 results at 3.35 taking a loss of 20k. Bought Coop at 11.80. took my 150k profits at 16.00. life continues,,,
Dump now,,, the race to 2bob is on



But for next year, won't there be some significant savings on the interest they were paying on the bond?


Company has zero debt.
Full disclosures to be known when they release full year results in 3.5 months time


Where did they get the money to fully settle the bond liability?

Did they ever sell any of the parcels of land they advertised?


Bond settlement was done through internal sources but full details will be known in release of FY19 results in March 2020
Parcels of land none has been sold.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
the deal
#35 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:38:02 PM
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Joined: 9/25/2009
Posts: 4,534
Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
heri wrote:
Metch wrote:
heri wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Profit warning pap
Seriously? after i went all in at 3 bob to lower my ABP


U should have seen this coming after H1 results. I dumped mine immediately after H1 results at 3.35 taking a loss of 20k. Bought Coop at 11.80. took my 150k profits at 16.00. life continues,,,
Dump now,,, the race to 2bob is on



But for next year, won't there be some significant savings on the interest they were paying on the bond?


Company has zero debt.
Full disclosures to be known when they release full year results in 3.5 months time


Where did they get the money to fully settle the bond liability?

Did they ever sell any of the parcels of land they advertised?


Bond settlement was done through internal sources but full details will be known in release of FY19 results in March 2020
Parcels of land none has been sold.


Huge exposure to the dustbowl property market...UAP issued a profit warning on the same....
Ericsson
#36 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:43:39 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
the deal wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
heri wrote:
Metch wrote:
heri wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Profit warning pap
Seriously? after i went all in at 3 bob to lower my ABP


U should have seen this coming after H1 results. I dumped mine immediately after H1 results at 3.35 taking a loss of 20k. Bought Coop at 11.80. took my 150k profits at 16.00. life continues,,,
Dump now,,, the race to 2bob is on



But for next year, won't there be some significant savings on the interest they were paying on the bond?


Company has zero debt.
Full disclosures to be known when they release full year results in 3.5 months time


Where did they get the money to fully settle the bond liability?

Did they ever sell any of the parcels of land they advertised?


Bond settlement was done through internal sources but full details will be known in release of FY19 results in March 2020
Parcels of land none has been sold.


Huge exposure to the dustbowl property market...UAP issued a profit warning on the same....

Dustbowl Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Cic insurance will avoid a loss
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#37 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2019 6:19:32 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
the deal wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
heri wrote:
Metch wrote:
heri wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Profit warning pap
Seriously? after i went all in at 3 bob to lower my ABP


U should have seen this coming after H1 results. I dumped mine immediately after H1 results at 3.35 taking a loss of 20k. Bought Coop at 11.80. took my 150k profits at 16.00. life continues,,,
Dump now,,, the race to 2bob is on



But for next year, won't there be some significant savings on the interest they were paying on the bond?


Company has zero debt.
Full disclosures to be known when they release full year results in 3.5 months time


Where did they get the money to fully settle the bond liability?

Did they ever sell any of the parcels of land they advertised?


Bond settlement was done through internal sources but full details will be known in release of FY19 results in March 2020
Parcels of land none has been sold.


Huge exposure to the dustbowl property market...UAP issued a profit warning on the same....

Q3 performance was terrible
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
tandich
#38 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2019 10:30:25 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/6/2008
Posts: 199
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
heri wrote:
Metch wrote:
heri wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Profit warning pap
Seriously? after i went all in at 3 bob to lower my ABP


U should have seen this coming after H1 results. I dumped mine immediately after H1 results at 3.35 taking a loss of 20k. Bought Coop at 11.80. took my 150k profits at 16.00. life continues,,,
Dump now,,, the race to 2bob is on



But for next year, won't there be some significant savings on the interest they were paying on the bond?


Company has zero debt.
Full disclosures to be known when they release full year results in 3.5 months time


Where did they get the money to fully settle the bond liability?

Did they ever sell any of the parcels of land they advertised?


Bond settlement was done through internal sources but full details will be known in release of FY19 results in March 2020
Parcels of land none has been sold.


I suspect a COOP bail out for this settlement; probably connected to CEO’s departure
muandiwambeu
#39 Posted : Saturday, November 16, 2019 11:39:15 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
tandich wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
heri wrote:
Metch wrote:
heri wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Profit warning pap
Seriously? after i went all in at 3 bob to lower my ABP


U should have seen this coming after H1 results. I dumped mine immediately after H1 results at 3.35 taking a loss of 20k. Bought Coop at 11.80. took my 150k profits at 16.00. life continues,,,
Dump now,,, the race to 2bob is on



But for next year, won't there be some significant savings on the interest they were paying on the bond?


Company has zero debt.
Full disclosures to be known when they release full year results in 3.5 months time


Where did they get the money to fully settle the bond liability?

Did they ever sell any of the parcels of land they advertised?


Bond settlement was done through internal sources but full details will be known in release of FY19 results in March 2020
Parcels of land none has been sold.


I suspect a COOP bail out for this settlement; probably connected to CEO’s departure

What is current valution based on eps and market averages. Narrow escape. Not every day do hard work pay, luck also does some magicsmile
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
Ericsson
#40 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2019 9:43:57 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Ericsson wrote:
Profit warning pap



Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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