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Prophet Owuor
essyk
#31 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 5:46:09 PM
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If you are a christian/muslim/buddha/hindu/jew/ aethist/agnostic etc.practice it within the confines of your faith without extremism.That's what people are up against.
Don't profess something and do exactly the opposite cz the same belief condemns/admonishes you.It's not the people.Don't blame people.
I for instance cannot admonish a muslim/buddhist for not living a Christian life and vice versa.
An atheist has no ground to speak/argue about religion.It doesn't exist so it can't form any basis in an argument.

If this guy regards himself as a christian and an end time prophet,all I need to do is refer to the bible he preaches and qualify him as one.
If his actions and teachings fail to match the biblical description of a prophet, I simply dismiss him as false.
As a believer the same bible commands me to test them spirits and prophets.So I am within my legal limits as a christian to admonish liars.

If he doesn't want to be referred to as a false prophet let him ditch the bible or Christianity. No one will blink.

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
masukuma
#32 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 6:31:31 PM
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Location: Nairobi
essyk wrote:
If you are a christian/muslim/buddha/hindu/jew/ aethist/agnostic etc.practice it within the confines of your faith without extremism.That's what people are up against.
Don't profess something and do exactly the opposite cz the same belief condemns/admonishes you.It's not the people.Don't blame people.
I for instance cannot admonish a muslim/buddhist for not living a Christian life and vice versa.
An atheist has no ground to speak/argue about religion.It doesn't exist so it can't form any basis in an argument.

If this guy regards himself as a christian and an end time prophet,all I need to do is refer to the bible he preaches and qualify him as one.
If his actions and teachings fail to match the biblical description of a prophet, I simply dismiss him as false.
As a believer the same bible commands me to test them spirits and prophets.So I am within my legal limits as a christian to admonish liars.

If he doesn't want to be referred to as a false prophet let him ditch the bible or Christianity. No one will blink.


my point is... this is the REASON for your actions. You have reasons why you came up with the above worldview! It's a cute worldview but it's just a worldview. I am saying that your worldview is not the only worldview and that there are other worldviews (including mine that is premised in the idea/myth that "one's rights end where another begins"). You have to realize that yours is not the only worldview and that the very people you are admonishing (based on your reasons for example "refering to the bible") have their own yardsticks... I don't know what their yardstick is for (mightiest prophet or 2 prophets in one, or another one who said Owour authored the first 3 books of the bible) but a good example to ask is Moses alisoma bible gani? Elijah and Elisha?... Mungu aliongea na hao direct...so kama hao hawakusoma bibilia - who said that lazima watu wasome bibilia? considering the people who were writing the bible wenyewe hawakujua wanaandika biblia! wengine walikuwa wanandika mabarua (some personal) halafu mkaanza kusoma ni kama aliwaandikia!
for example
Luke starts as follows
Quote:
1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled[a] among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

Wewe unaitwa Theophilus? if not - unasoma barua ya watu kwanini? smile
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alma1
#33 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 6:31:54 PM
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Mathukuma I agree with you to let people believe their nonsense.

However, we must admit that the fella is a conman. I don't mind you believing a conman. But, let's start somewhere by first agreeing he has never resurrected a live cockroach and he does not speak to God.

Ipso facto he's a common conman but with a borrowed Mercedes Benz with a beard that needs a cut. Then we can start Tycho discussions on the human mind and belief.

ION. The Mighty Mighty Mighty Prophet who has resurrected people now has a lawyer. He's suing the star. Can you believe that.

God himuselufu getting a Kenyan lawyer...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

hardwood
#34 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 7:13:19 PM
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DCI now say that they will not summon Owuor. See how DCI have insulted the wakorino.

https://www.the-star.co....ytime-soon-dci_c1904496


Quote:
"Prophet Owour is not like a mukorino from Kwangware we cannot just summon him anyhow," said Wanjau of DCI.
essyk
#35 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 8:16:07 PM
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Masukuma you are just broadening the subject than its necessary

masukuma wrote:

I don't know what their yardstick is for (mightiest prophet or 2 prophets in one, But your faith is your YARDSTICK.In his case it's the BIBLE
but a good example to ask is Moses alisoma bible gani? Elijah and Elisha?... Mungu aliongea na hao direct...so kama hao hawakusoma bibilia - who said that lazima watu wasome bibilia? considering the people who were writing the bible wenyewe hawakujua wanaandika biblia! wengine walikuwa wanandika mabarua (some personal) halafu mkaanza kusoma ni kama aliwaandikia!
for example. Now all these is irrelevant to the subject.We are not trying to establish if christianity or the bible is REAL or NOT.It's whether he lives up to it's teachings, the same teachings that he preaches.Who wrote when,where why,is a non issue because the guy and his followers all believe in it.
Luke starts as follows
Quote:
1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled[a] among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

Wewe unaitwa Theophilus? if not - unasoma barua ya watu kwanini? smile

This is what we call interpretation out of context.But again that is not the subject here.
By the way it's ok if you don't believe in it. Like I said to each his own, but your own will condemn you.
Ananias and Sapphira lied to the Holy spirit.
I also hope you are not trying to use their story as justification to giving away ones wealth to false preachers cz it will be out of context(please let's not discuss this)
.Nimechoka.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Euge
#36 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 8:41:16 PM
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Ryko wrote:
To be honest what EXACTLY does this man Owuor use to brain wash people, I would really wish to understand how to also get someone out of this religion.

I have a family member who seems totally brainwashed by Owuor, we have tried to assist but nothing, we give the person money she spends it all in Owuor, tried assisting but the person is totally hooked up. Its very disturbing. The person doesn't care about herself totally, travels all his crusades. Talking has not helped, advice has not helped, opening a business does not help. I really hate this man. We are now planning to get the person out of the country for a trip then ground her there about 6 months or more to see if she cuts the links with Owuor. I think there is more to Owuor than meets the eye.
F**k Owuor


A very strong detergent. It sure cannot be Ariel.
Takes advantage of people's vulnerabilities. And presents himself as the solution to their troubles. I think.
Lord, thank you!
Drobos fly
#37 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 10:48:20 PM
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Ryko wrote:
To be honest what EXACTLY does this man Owuor use to brain wash people, I would really wish to understand how to also get someone out of this religion.

I have a family member who seems totally brainwashed by Owuor, we have tried to assist but nothing, we give the person money she spends it all in Owuor, tried assisting but the person is totally hooked up. Its very disturbing. The person doesn't care about herself totally, travels all his crusades. Talking has not helped, advice has not helped, opening a business does not help. I really hate this man. We are now planning to get the person out of the country for a trip then ground her there about 6 months or more to see if she cuts the links with Owuor. I think there is more to Owuor than meets the eye.
F**k Owuor



Such are the cases I hear about this Owuor, not just you actually quite a big number. I don't know what the argument here is about really but this in itself is a very clear sign that exhibits cultic behaviour in the individual, no different from total mind control = witchcraft. Anyone that is using fear to move people is unquestionably & undoubtedly of a false religion and preaches a strange doctrine. A lemon tree cannot bear oranges and vice versa.


There's only one way to break them out of that. Through prayer and fasting for them to the one true living God. Yours is clealy a spiritual battle that needs a spiritual approach. Prayer truly works but you have to be sincere with God in your lifestyle too.
masukuma
#38 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 11:34:57 PM
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All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Kusadikika
#39 Posted : Saturday, March 09, 2019 1:25:26 AM
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hardwood wrote:
DCI now say that they will not summon Owuor. See how DCI have insulted the wakorino.

https://www.the-star.co....ytime-soon-dci_c1904496


Quote:
"Prophet Owour is not like a mukorino from Kwangware we cannot just summon him anyhow," said Wanjau of DCI.



Where is Kaparo!!!??? This is hate speech. That guy should be fired immediately. Na wakorino wako wapi jameni? This is your opportunity to demonstrate, muonekane. Camp in Matiang'is office till this guy is fired. They should not take lightly the fact that a senior police officer thinks that a Mokorino is someone who has no equal rights to those of any other Kenyan.
thuks
#40 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2019 6:00:50 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
hardwood wrote:
DCI now say that they will not summon Owuor. See how DCI have insulted the wakorino.

https://www.the-star.co....ytime-soon-dci_c1904496


Quote:
"Prophet Owour is not like a mukorino from Kwangware we cannot just summon him anyhow," said Wanjau of DCI.



Where is Kaparo!!!??? This is hate speech. That guy should be fired immediately. Na wakorino wako wapi jameni? This is your opportunity to demonstrate, muonekane. Camp in Matiang'is office till this guy is fired. They should not take lightly the fact that a senior police officer thinks that a Mokorino is someone who has no equal rights to those of any other Kenyan.

Supported. It confirms alleged bias when the police deal with the rich and the poor. All right thinking kenyan poor should join the 'mukorino'
I care!
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