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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Mtu Biz wrote:Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:this riparian process is too selective, you will find that some of those who saw no issue when the malls were being brought down, now have an issue when the demolition notice is given to them.
If the government is serious they should just go after all, even if the national museum is on riparian land demolish all, if not wacha kupatia watu stress, the process has a lot of bias on what is demolished or not. My observation exactly! Yes we feel for the individuals, but to see hypocrisy in Wazuans whom are supposed were in support of mall demolitions is wonders of the world! It's a class issue. When it's middle class mortgage takers we feel sorry When it's some rich Mhindi, we feel zero. We get racist even Hapo umegonga ndipo. @lonest, you have explained it well!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:this riparian process is too selective, you will find that some of those who saw no issue when the malls were being brought down, now have an issue when the demolition notice is given to them.
If the government is serious they should just go after all, even if the national museum is on riparian land demolish all, if not wacha kupatia watu stress, the process has a lot of bias on what is demolished or not. My observation exactly! Yes we feel for the individuals, but to see hypocrisy in Wazuans whom are supposed were in support of mall demolitions is wonders of the world! It's a class issue. When it's middle class mortgage takers we feel sorry When it's some rich Mhindi, we feel zero. We get racist even HOW DARE YOU TELL US THE TRUTH LIKE THIS, Nkt!! Don't you know this Ghenya? "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436
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Angelica _ann wrote:If on mortgage and charge is title to the apartment if you default what would the financial institution do? Proper lending practice recognizes that security is just insurance in case you don't pay. The fact that the security is gone does not mean your ability to repay is also gone - those are 2 different mutually exclusive manenos. Si bado unaenda job? Si bado unatwanga biz and getting some mullah? Unless the biz was located at the affected premises. So Banks will still come after you to pay if you default; for starters, utaingizwa CRB. And given you signed a personal guarantee, all your other assets plus the kienyeji kuku you are keeping for the coming Xmas festivities can be sold off to pay off the outstanding bank debt. If someone else had guaranteed your debt, the bank will come for them with the same gusto and the courts ruled recently that even the guarantor can now be listed on CRB if they don't pay off a debt they have guaranteed. Guarantor assets can be similarly sold. If you have no further assets of value, and you have the means, then the bank can apply to have you committed to civil jail for willingly failing to pay off its debt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,936
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Intelligentsia wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:If on mortgage and charge is title to the apartment if you default what would the financial institution do? Proper lending practice recognizes that security is just insurance in case you don't pay. The fact that the security is gone does not mean your ability to repay is also gone - those are 2 different mutually exclusive manenos. Si bado unaenda job? Si bado unatwanga biz and getting some mullah? Unless the biz was located at the affected premises. So Banks will still come after you to pay if you default; for starters, utaingizwa CRB. And given you signed a personal guarantee, all your other assets plus the kienyeji kuku you are keeping for the coming Xmas festivities can be sold off to pay off the outstanding bank debt. If someone else had guaranteed your debt, the bank will come for them with the same gusto and the courts ruled recently that even the guarantor can now be listed on CRB if they don't pay off a debt they have guaranteed. Guarantor assets can be similarly sold. If you have no further assets of value, and you have the means, then the bank can apply to have you committed to civil jail for willingly failing to pay off its debt. Thanks for this feedback. Let me stay in the village where everything is cash cash cash In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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Intelligentsia wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:If on mortgage and charge is title to the apartment if you default what would the financial institution do? Proper lending practice recognizes that security is just insurance in case you don't pay. The fact that the security is gone does not mean your ability to repay is also gone - those are 2 different mutually exclusive manenos. Si bado unaenda job? Si bado unatwanga biz and getting some mullah? Unless the biz was located at the affected premises. So Banks will still come after you to pay if you default; for starters, utaingizwa CRB. And given you signed a personal guarantee, all your other assets plus the kienyeji kuku you are keeping for the coming Xmas festivities can be sold off to pay off the outstanding bank debt. If someone else had guaranteed your debt, the bank will come for them with the same gusto and the courts ruled recently that even the guarantor can now be listed on CRB if they don't pay off a debt they have guaranteed. Guarantor assets can be similarly sold. If you have no further assets of value, and you have the means, then the bank can apply to have you committed to civil jail for willingly failing to pay off its debt. they aren't allowed to sell personal stuff like your chicken. anyways, the best way out of it is apply for bankruptcy, re-arrange your debt, pay only a small part of it, discharge the bankruptcy and you are home dry.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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A guy says the foundation sank severally during construction "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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mkenyan wrote:Intelligentsia wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:If on mortgage and charge is title to the apartment if you default what would the financial institution do? Proper lending practice recognizes that security is just insurance in case you don't pay. The fact that the security is gone does not mean your ability to repay is also gone - those are 2 different mutually exclusive manenos. Si bado unaenda job? Si bado unatwanga biz and getting some mullah? Unless the biz was located at the affected premises. So Banks will still come after you to pay if you default; for starters, utaingizwa CRB. And given you signed a personal guarantee, all your other assets plus the kienyeji kuku you are keeping for the coming Xmas festivities can be sold off to pay off the outstanding bank debt. If someone else had guaranteed your debt, the bank will come for them with the same gusto and the courts ruled recently that even the guarantor can now be listed on CRB if they don't pay off a debt they have guaranteed. Guarantor assets can be similarly sold. If you have no further assets of value, and you have the means, then the bank can apply to have you committed to civil jail for willingly failing to pay off its debt. they aren't allowed to sell personal stuff like your chicken. anyways, the best way out of it is apply for bankruptcy, re-arrange your debt, pay only a small part of it, discharge the bankruptcy and you are home dry. Employment contracts, govt and private sector, have a clause where the employee confirms that he does not suffer pecuniary embarrassment. In other words you are not bankrupt. So if you were to file for bankruptcy it means you are FIRED, or rather you have just fired yourselefu.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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 "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Kenyans are very funny people. It seems that the only people in the world who didn't know that the land was grabbed are the fools who bought the properties. I'm waiting for the ones in Nyayo Highrise to also pretend they didn't know their land was grabbed. Watu warudishe mashamba za serekali. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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alma1 wrote:Kenyans are very funny people.
It seems that the only people in the world who didn't know that the land was grabbed are the fools who bought the properties.
I'm waiting for the ones in Nyayo Highrise to also pretend they didn't know their land was grabbed.
Watu warudishe mashamba za serekali. nyayo highrise is on grabbed land?
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