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Equity Bank FY 2016 results
watesh
#61 Posted : Friday, April 21, 2017 7:21:33 PM
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sparkly wrote:
watesh wrote:
Horton wrote:
So Procredit PBT 500m, equity valued it at 31.4B almost PE of almost 90!!!!

Granted there is growth, wonder how much FCF they have

Procredit congo is spending more on expansion and marketing. Profits will be low till they get past 50% coverage of the country. Congo has really bad technological infrastructure. So much investments need to began done.


Mobile money is key. Expansion through Physical infrastructure in terms of brick and mortar branches is simply impossible.

Banks make majority of their profits from businesses. These need access to brick and mortar to develop relationships and negotiate various deals. No business operates through mobile money. U cant deposit hundred of thousands daily through an agent.
Retail customers need mobile money since they are waaaay too many to fit in a bank. Agents needs brick & mortar branches to manage their cash in hand. They cant hold too much cash coz of insecurity in the country.
Electricity and internet access is an issue in DRC. Equity has to invest in expensive satellite internet and generators to run their branches full time.
Horton
#62 Posted : Friday, April 21, 2017 7:28:38 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
So Procredit PBT 500m, equity valued it at 31.4B almost PE of almost 90!!!!

Granted there is growth, wonder how much FCF they have

Sometimes you buy "future" growth. Remember the days when Equity used to grow profits 100% per year?
FCF may be negative but it's like Safcom in the early years. Branding, towers, free/cheap "locked" phones & modems, etc. As others have said the expansion efforts are probably driven through Equitel. As long as DRC remains stable (or improves) the payoff could be enormous.





So paying 90 times for something that is an unkown (future or potential earnings) is tough to phathom for a student of Dodd and Ben G like myself. Nonetheless, the original stake Equity bought was a steal! Worth every dime what I am curious about is this latest purchase......could it be that Mr. Mwangi just wanted to consolidate and toghtwn his grip?!
VituVingiSana
#63 Posted : Saturday, April 22, 2017 1:44:11 AM
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Horton wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
So Procredit PBT 500m, equity valued it at 31.4B almost PE of almost 90!!!!

Granted there is growth, wonder how much FCF they have

Sometimes you buy "future" growth. Remember the days when Equity used to grow profits 100% per year?
FCF may be negative but it's like Safcom in the early years. Branding, towers, free/cheap "locked" phones & modems, etc. As others have said the expansion efforts are probably driven through Equitel. As long as DRC remains stable (or improves) the payoff could be enormous.


So paying 90 times for something that is an unkown (future or potential earnings) is tough to phathom for a student of Dodd and Ben G like myself. Nonetheless, the original stake Equity bought was a steal! Worth every dime what I am curious about is this latest purchase......could it be that Mr. Mwangi just wanted to consolidate and toghtwn his grip?!

There could be something we aren't privy to. I doubt Equity paid that amount without an analysis. I wish we had more details. Was this a payment based on a previous agreement that other shares would be purchased at a premium if the biz did well?
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sparkly
#64 Posted : Sunday, April 23, 2017 3:00:30 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
So Procredit PBT 500m, equity valued it at 31.4B almost PE of almost 90!!!!

Granted there is growth, wonder how much FCF they have

Sometimes you buy "future" growth. Remember the days when Equity used to grow profits 100% per year?
FCF may be negative but it's like Safcom in the early years. Branding, towers, free/cheap "locked" phones & modems, etc. As others have said the expansion efforts are probably driven through Equitel. As long as DRC remains stable (or improves) the payoff could be enormous.


So paying 90 times for something that is an unkown (future or potential earnings) is tough to phathom for a student of Dodd and Ben G like myself. Nonetheless, the original stake Equity bought was a steal! Worth every dime what I am curious about is this latest purchase......could it be that Mr. Mwangi just wanted to consolidate and toghtwn his grip?!

There could be something we aren't privy to. I doubt Equity paid that amount without an analysis. I wish we had more details. Was this a payment based on a previous agreement that other shares would be purchased at a premium if the biz did well?



Most likely. Venture Capitalists know how to structure their agreements.
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