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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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kiash wrote:The funniest   thing in that video is the woman yelling in jesus name i say stop it.Surely did she expect the officer to say "Yes i have left her alone " ? This is calling jesus name in vain. She should have acted like her friends at least. This is normal to Kenyans, fail to take the car for a chekup and say jesus will take us there and so many other stuff, did our president ask the pope to pray for corruption. Ni Kenyan peculiar habit . That's why this video was posted to question the ideology of using christ name even when it's well known for christ to have nothing to do with this violence . .You need to understand how some wazuans minds work here .some are good at hiding hidden messages and you gotta be smart to get decode the message ....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Congolese Singer Koffi Olomide has been jailed for a year for assaulting a female dancer in Kenya, reports indicate. The Rhumba maestro was arrested on Tuesday at his home in Kinshasa in the Democratic Republic of Congo. It was reported that he was taken to court shortly after and charged with the crime. He was found guilty and sentenced to a year in jail. Olomide denied assaulting one of his dancers identified as Pamela. His lawyer George Wajackoyah also accused police of manhandling the musician. The singer apologised in a Facebook post on Monday, terming the incident a "moment of madness". He has faced widespread condemnation and outrage since the video of the incident at JKIA was shared on social media. Kenyans on Twitter called for his immediate arrest and deportation after the assault. Summary criminal trial procedure at its best... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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maka wrote:Congolese Singer Koffi Olomide has been jailed for a year for assaulting a female dancer in Kenya, reports indicate.
The Rhumba maestro was arrested on Tuesday at his home in Kinshasa in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
It was reported that he was taken to court shortly after and charged with the crime. He was found guilty and sentenced to a year in jail.
Olomide denied assaulting one of his dancers identified as Pamela. His lawyer George Wajackoyah also accused police of manhandling the musician.
The singer apologised in a Facebook post on Monday, terming the incident a "moment of madness".
He has faced widespread condemnation and outrage since the video of the incident at JKIA was shared on social media.
Kenyans on Twitter called for his immediate arrest and deportation after the assault.
Summary criminal trial procedure at its best... Hii justice system is mambo baaad! crime committed in another country, guy is picked up, taken to court, judged and sentenced all on the same day "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Where was that mdomo baggy Kenyan lawyer when his client was being hauled to jail? The fellow should go there and argue his blah blah nonsense and get jailed.  Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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murchr wrote:maka wrote:Congolese Singer Koffi Olomide has been jailed for a year for assaulting a female dancer in Kenya, reports indicate.
The Rhumba maestro was arrested on Tuesday at his home in Kinshasa in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
It was reported that he was taken to court shortly after and charged with the crime. He was found guilty and sentenced to a year in jail.
Olomide denied assaulting one of his dancers identified as Pamela. His lawyer George Wajackoyah also accused police of manhandling the musician.
The singer apologised in a Facebook post on Monday, terming the incident a "moment of madness".
He has faced widespread condemnation and outrage since the video of the incident at JKIA was shared on social media.
Kenyans on Twitter called for his immediate arrest and deportation after the assault.
Summary criminal trial procedure at its best... Hii justice system is mambo baaad! crime committed in another country, guy is picked up, taken to court, judged and sentenced all on the same day You can only get such swift justice in the Congo forest, literally...pun! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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This is the kind of justice all Kenyan are crying for.
The just that comes 100 years later is of no use
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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Impunity wrote:murchr wrote:maka wrote:Congolese Singer Koffi Olomide has been jailed for a year for assaulting a female dancer in Kenya, reports indicate.
The Rhumba maestro was arrested on Tuesday at his home in Kinshasa in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
It was reported that he was taken to court shortly after and charged with the crime. He was found guilty and sentenced to a year in jail.
Olomide denied assaulting one of his dancers identified as Pamela. His lawyer George Wajackoyah also accused police of manhandling the musician.
The singer apologised in a Facebook post on Monday, terming the incident a "moment of madness".
He has faced widespread condemnation and outrage since the video of the incident at JKIA was shared on social media.
Kenyans on Twitter called for his immediate arrest and deportation after the assault.
Summary criminal trial procedure at its best... Hii justice system is mambo baaad! crime committed in another country, guy is picked up, taken to court, judged and sentenced all on the same day You can only get such swift justice in the Congo forest, literally...pun! They must have been looking for him Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Justice is not one sided - it's 2 sided. That is what we miss. Was there an accuser? Was there a victim? did the victim testify? Did he take a plea? I have a feeling alikuwa anatafutwa that is why they had a kangaroo court to fry him. That is not swift justice - that is witchhunting/political. A crime needs an accuser. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2014 Posts: 1,652
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I am just waiting for Alma to comment........... Hutia Mundu!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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masukuma wrote:Justice is not one sided - it's 2 sided. That is what we miss. Was there an accuser? Was there a victim? did the victim testify? Did he take a plea? I have a feeling alikuwa anatafutwa that is why they had a kangaroo court to fry him. That is not swift justice - that is witchhunting/political. A crime needs an accuser. Masukuma at it again. Posting for the sake of being contrarian and ending showing he is ill-informed. You are completely wrong. Crime does not need an accuser. It just needs a witness or evidence. What if the accuser is incapacitated or too scared to press charges? There are many cases where a person is charged even when the accuser refuses to testify or press charges. This is especially the case for domestic abuse. Why would you need an accuser when the event was captured on video and happened in front of a dozen witnesses?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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masukuma wrote:Justice is not one sided - it's 2 sided. That is what we miss. Was there an accuser? Was there a victim? did the victim testify? Did he take a plea? I have a feeling alikuwa anatafutwa that is why they had a kangaroo court to fry him. That is not swift justice - that is witchhunting/political. A crime needs an accuser. Maybe he had a political connection to the opposition . There has to be something to it .Papawemba did lots of human trafficking to France and I think he was once prosecuted for it in France but never arrested in congo ,but he was in good books with the Kabilas and Mobutu.musicians should tread carefully in politics
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Alba wrote:masukuma wrote:Justice is not one sided - it's 2 sided. That is what we miss. Was there an accuser? Was there a victim? did the victim testify? Did he take a plea? I have a feeling alikuwa anatafutwa that is why they had a kangaroo court to fry him. That is not swift justice - that is witchhunting/political. A crime needs an accuser. Masukuma at it again. Posting for the sake of being contrarian and ending showing he is ill-informed. You are completely wrong. Crime does not need an accuser. It just needs a witness or evidence. What if the accuser is incapacitated or too scared to press charges? There are many cases where a person is charged even when the accuser refuses to testify or press charges. This is especially the case for domestic abuse. Why would you need an accuser when the event was captured on video and happened in front of a dozen witnesses?  Victimless crimes are arbitrary dictates  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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I exposed maskuma's sheer ignorance so now his only resort is to post idiotic pictures. He has nothing intelligent to say on this thread. Look men you can post more ujinga posters. But the fact remains that your statement below is completely bogus: masukuma wrote:. A crime needs an accuser. Especially in cases of domestic abuse, a person can be convicted even when there is no accuser. The reason is that the battered person is typically afraid of pressing charges. Here is an example of a man who was conviected of batterry even though his wife refused to testifyThis applies to Koffi's dancer. She must be afraid of Koffi and she must have been coerced by Koffi to claim she was not attacked. Thats why she defended Koffi. But the fact that she is afriad to testify against Koffi should not stop the authorities from pursuing crimonal charges. This is not just about Pamela. It is also about the other women that Koffi has abused and will abuse in the future if he is not punished. Now rather than post childish pictures, how about showing wazuans that you have an ounce of intelligence and tell us why you statement is still correct.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Alba wrote: I exposed maskuma's sheer ignorance so now his only resort is to post idiotic pictures. He has nothing intelligent to say on this thread. Look men you can post more ujinga posters. But the fact remains that your statement below is completely bogus: masukuma wrote:. A crime needs an accuser. Especially in cases of domestic abuse, a person can be convicted even when there is no accuser. The reason is that the battered person is typically afraid of pressing charges. Here is an example of a man who was conviected of batterry even though his wife refused to testifyThis applies to Koffi's dancer. She must be afraid of Koffi and she must have been coerced by Koffi to claim she was not attacked. Thats why she defended Koffi. But the fact that she is afriad to testify against Koffi should not stop the authorities from pursuing crimonal charges. This is not just about Pamela. It is also about the other women that Koffi has abused and will abuse in the future if he is not punished. Now rather than post childish pictures, how about showing wazuans that you have an ounce of intelligence and tell us why you statement is still correct. I need to get a refund - they told me that spray will work for 4 hours! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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masukuma wrote:Alba wrote: I exposed maskuma's sheer ignorance so now his only resort is to post idiotic pictures. He has nothing intelligent to say on this thread. Look men you can post more ujinga posters. But the fact remains that your statement below is completely bogus: masukuma wrote:. A crime needs an accuser. Especially in cases of domestic abuse, a person can be convicted even when there is no accuser. The reason is that the battered person is typically afraid of pressing charges. Here is an example of a man who was conviected of batterry even though his wife refused to testifyThis applies to Koffi's dancer. She must be afraid of Koffi and she must have been coerced by Koffi to claim she was not attacked. Thats why she defended Koffi. But the fact that she is afriad to testify against Koffi should not stop the authorities from pursuing crimonal charges. This is not just about Pamela. It is also about the other women that Koffi has abused and will abuse in the future if he is not punished. Now rather than post childish pictures, how about showing wazuans that you have an ounce of intelligence and tell us why you statement is still correct. I need to get a refund - they told me that spray will work for 4 hours!
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Alba wrote:masukuma wrote:Justice is not one sided - it's 2 sided. That is what we miss. Was there an accuser? Was there a victim? did the victim testify? Did he take a plea? I have a feeling alikuwa anatafutwa that is why they had a kangaroo court to fry him. That is not swift justice - that is witchhunting/political. A crime needs an accuser. Masukuma at it again. Posting for the sake of being contrarian and ending showing he is ill-informed. You are completely wrong. Crime does not need an accuser. It just needs a witness or evidence. What if the accuser is incapacitated or too scared to press charges? There are many cases where a person is charged even when the accuser refuses to testify or press charges. This is especially the case for domestic abuse. Why would you need an accuser when the event was captured on video and happened in front of a dozen witnesses? @Masukuma please quit. A criminal offense does not need an accuser, thats why its always state vs defendant. Alba is right, all thats needed is the video of his kicking his dancer. Whether the dancer cooperates with the prosecution is neither hear nor there. On the flip side, the state has no obligation to try all criminal offences, they can choose to prosecute or not to. I hope you are not one of the people who encourage people in shags to settle criminal offences by "kutoa mbuzi" "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Alba wrote:masukuma wrote:Justice is not one sided - it's 2 sided. That is what we miss. Was there an accuser? Was there a victim? did the victim testify? Did he take a plea? I have a feeling alikuwa anatafutwa that is why they had a kangaroo court to fry him. That is not swift justice - that is witchhunting/political. A crime needs an accuser. Masukuma at it again. Posting for the sake of being contrarian and ending showing he is ill-informed. You are completely wrong. Crime does not need an accuser. It just needs a witness or evidence. What if the accuser is incapacitated or too scared to press charges? There are many cases where a person is charged even when the accuser refuses to testify or press charges. This is especially the case for domestic abuse. Why would you need an accuser when the event was captured on video and happened in front of a dozen witnesses? @Masukuma please quit. A criminal offense does not need an accuser, thats why its always state vs defendant. Alba is right, all thats needed is the video of his kicking his dancer. Whether the dancer cooperates with the prosecution is neither hear nor there. On the flip side, the state has no obligation to try all criminal offences, they can choose to prosecute or not to. I hope you are not one of the people who encourage people in shags to settle criminal offences by "kutoa mbuzi" If I kill you and then you die and so that you, the one I have killed, cannot accuse me of killing you because you are dead, then I am alright and have not committed any crime? Enyewe kusema kweli hapo Masukuma amechimba sakafu and missed to kick the ball.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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I guess it depends on regime then. The right to face your accuser is a common law practice - not sure about the french system (whether its even based on common law). Confronting your accuser protects the right of the defendant to cross examine a witness or the accuser. You cannot cross examine a video. The accuser need not be the victim (as in in the case of murder). Someone needs to point at the person who committed a crime - that was common law practice and the defendant should be able to ask questions. We may have changed the roots of our legal regime but the state needs to present an accuser - victim or not someone must take a witness stand. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,884
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masukuma wrote:I guess it depends on regime then. The right to face your accuser is a common law practice - not sure about the french system (whether its even based on common law). Confronting your accuser protects the right of the defendant to cross examine a witness or the accuser. You cannot cross examine a video. The accuser need not be the victim (as in in the case of murder). Someone needs to point at the person who committed a crime - that was common law practice and the defendant should be able to ask questions. We may have changed the roots of our legal regime but the state needs to present an accuser - victim or not someone must take a witness stand. it is true that a crime always need an accuser. where you get it wrong is the fact that the accuser is usually the state not the person wronged. that is why in several jurisdictions you can be charged with attempted suicide. you can never get away from it by refusing to 'accuse' yourself. having said that, i agree with you that the speed with which this has seemingly (seemingly) been handled does not objectively show justice being done to him.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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mkenyan wrote:[quote=masukuma]
it is true that a crime always need an accuser. where you get it wrong is the fact that the accuser is usually the state not the person wronged. that is why in several jurisdictions you can be charged with attempted suicide. you can never get away from it by refusing to 'accuse' yourself.
eish!!!.... .... quit @ Masukuma! .This is clearly not your turf Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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