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tycho
#61 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2015 7:36:01 AM
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Am saddened by Paris. Maybe one day humanity will wake up and understand that religion and gods are a scourge on society. We don't need religions and gods for us to be good human beings, all we need is a human heart. If we can teach future generations to be good people because being a good human being is the right thing to do as opposed to teaching them to be good so as to appease a god in the hope that this god in return will reward them back with a ticket into heaven when they die, then maybe then we will eventually have peace on earth.

Teach your kids to be good without expecting any favors in return, to always do the right thing even when there is nobody watching, and if they end up going to this mythical hell because they were good people who chose not to get into a shady quid pro quo deal with some god, then at the end of the day, they will be better people than that god and should proudly walk into hell with their head held high up.

Nobody wants to associate with a dictatorial god who wants to be worshipped so as to dish back favors. There is no integrity in that. I am an atheist and i consciously live my life as positively as i can without having a god in my life and without expecting anything in return. I always choose the right way, that can't be said of 99% of my theist friends who are only "holy" when the situation suits them and only when they are hoping for blessings and favors in return. What a sorry way to live life. Unfortunate but true. Ni hayo tu.


One would be tempted to think that humanity is a given quality, automatically and perhaps mysteriously arising from the primeval soup. But that's hardly the case.

Humanity is intangible, and by itself, invisible. It's even incomplete. Many here seem to know about God - even the atheists, but so little seems to be known about being human.

With time I have come to realize that there's something like pop-education - a rough amalgam of half baked ideas and concepts wrought of mass production that's giving the masses a false sense of pride and security and confidence but is in fact a heap of trash. It's this miseducation that's fueling this forgetfulness and recklessness about what humanity entails.

There's a saying that 'mtoto akililia wembe. . .' That's the answer for the reckless and ignorant. It won't be long before wailing starts.


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Same 'trash' different pitch.


Yes. Especially if the interpreting mindsets are scarcely changing, or deemed as too important.
Mike Ock
#62 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2015 9:16:24 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
Am saddened by Paris. Maybe one day humanity will wake up and understand that religion and gods are a scourge on society. We don't need religions and gods for us to be good human beings, all we need is a human heart. If we can teach future generations to be good people because being a good human being is the right thing to do as opposed to teaching them to be good so as to appease a god in the hope that this god in return will reward them back with a ticket into heaven when they die, then maybe then we will eventually have peace on earth.

Teach your kids to be good without expecting any favors in return, to always do the right thing even when there is nobody watching, and if they end up going to this mythical hell because they were good people who chose not to get into a shady quid pro quo deal with some god, then at the end of the day, they will be better people than that god and should proudly walk into hell with their head held high up.

Nobody wants to associate with a dictatorial god who wants to be worshipped so as to dish back favors. There is no integrity in that. I am an atheist and i consciously live my life as positively as i can without having a god in my life and without expecting anything in return. I always choose the right way, that can't be said of 99% of my theist friends who are only "holy" when the situation suits them and only when they are hoping for blessings and favors in return. What a sorry way to live life. Unfortunate but true. Ni hayo tu.

Never. The comforts religions provide are more appealing than the harsh realities science makes you face. Take for example life after death. Science and atheism propose that once mtu ameenda, ameenda! While religion says don't worry, we'll meet again. Most people will be drawn to the religious option in such a case. Or take that guy living in Kibera slum hunting for odd mjengo jobs from racist Indians to feed his wife and 5 kids. That guy is suffering, and science and atheism tell him too bad, it's a life of suffering for you, then you die and the cycle of suffering shall continue with your descendants. Religion tells you nang'ana tu, good life awaits you afterwards. Surely in such cases religion is unshakable. Just live your own life and others will choose for themselves. Freedom of choice, so essential.
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