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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Torio wrote:This selection stinks. And it is not just private school kids. My friend's daughter - who was in a rural public school in Central - scored 400 and was selected to join Loreto Kiambu (not Limuru), which is just so-so. A girl who scored 378, and who was from the same school will be going to Precious Blood Riruta. My friend's girl had Riruta as her 1st choice. It does not make any sense.
If, as Kaimenyi says, “The government's intention is to make all secondary schools operate at the same level so that we end this belief that there are inferior and superior schools,” then what is the point of doing a national exam? Why not go majimbo all the way then, American style?
I'll give them one thing, there will be bribery left, right ... You are new to wazua right? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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The other major issue is that GOK altered allocation criteria long after candidates had made selections, selection which they did expecting the old system to apply. If we 5K candidates had over 400, there is no logical reason why they could not all secure places in national schools, which had 20K vacancies. The same applies to county schools. It did not help matters that candidates selected only the top schools like alliance. I think if GOK can come up with a well thought guide for candidates when picking schools, this problem could end. Why not ask candidates to select 5 options for national schools for instance? Distribution of County schools also does not match with population. There are counties with 500k pax but have more county schools than nrb for instance.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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Looking at the sampled children in today's newspaper, I think the problem is that candidates and their guardians are not properly advised on how to make effective choices. How does one choose Alliance, Maranda, Lenana and Maseno? All these are highly competitive schools.
If you miss Alliance with your 407marks, you will find that by the time they try to place you in Maranda, it is already filled by those who chose it as first choice. Same for Lenana, Maseno and ALL other national schools and competitive county ones.
So, you'll be left out! The only thing the ministry can do is place you anywhere else there is a space.
People must learn that CHOICES HAVE CONSEQUENCES!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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chiaroscuro wrote:Looking at the sampled children in today's newspaper, I think the problem is that candidates and their guardians are not properly advised on how to make effective choices. How does one choose Alliance, Maranda, Lenana and Maseno? All these are highly competitive schools.
If you miss Alliance with your 407marks, you will find that by the time they try to place you in Maranda, it is already filled by those who chose it as first choice. Same for Lenana, Maseno and ALL other national schools and competitive county ones.
So, you'll be left out! The only thing the ministry can do is place you anywhere else there is a space.
People must learn that CHOICES HAVE CONSEQUENCES!
GoK still carries most of the blame. Were they expecting kids to know that allocation criteria will change? I think kids should select schools online after results are out, with second chances for revision, like university selections
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Swenani wrote:Torio wrote:This selection stinks. And it is not just private school kids. My friend's daughter - who was in a rural public school in Central - scored 400 and was selected to join Loreto Kiambu (not Limuru), which is just so-so. A girl who scored 378, and who was from the same school will be going to Precious Blood Riruta. My friend's girl had Riruta as her 1st choice. It does not make any sense.
If, as Kaimenyi says, “The government's intention is to make all secondary schools operate at the same level so that we end this belief that there are inferior and superior schools,” then what is the point of doing a national exam? Why not go majimbo all the way then, American style?
I'll give them one thing, there will be bribery left, right ... You are new to wazua right?  , pole kwake - but I thought both schools are extra county schools so at the same level.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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limanika wrote:chiaroscuro wrote:Looking at the sampled children in today's newspaper, I think the problem is that candidates and their guardians are not properly advised on how to make effective choices. How does one choose Alliance, Maranda, Lenana and Maseno? All these are highly competitive schools.
If you miss Alliance with your 407marks, you will find that by the time they try to place you in Maranda, it is already filled by those who chose it as first choice. Same for Lenana, Maseno and ALL other national schools and competitive county ones.
So, you'll be left out! The only thing the ministry can do is place you anywhere else there is a space.
People must learn that CHOICES HAVE CONSEQUENCES!
GoK still carries most of the blame. Were they expecting kids to know that allocation criteria will change? I think kids should select schools online after results are out, with second chances for revision, like university selections The criteria has always been like that, just that competition for places has increased especially for certain schools. the ministry does not randomly place a kid in a national school they did not choose, so asipopata the choice national that are relegated to the level below.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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The issue here is even Kaimenyi does not know how to run an education system and he is the one calling the shots this way and that way and the other issue is creating a system that benefits the well connected and make the corrupt rich.
Discuss this in detail.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,837
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Torio wrote:This selection stinks. And it is not just private school kids. My friend's daughter - who was in a rural public school in Central - scored 400 and was selected to join Loreto Kiambu (not Limuru), which is just so-so. A girl who scored 378, and who was from the same school will be going to Precious Blood Riruta. My friend's girl had Riruta as her 1st choice. It does not make any sense.
If, as Kaimenyi says, “The government's intention is to make all secondary schools operate at the same level so that we end this belief that there are inferior and superior schools,” then what is the point of doing a national exam? Why not go majimbo all the way then, American style?
I'll give them one thing, there will be bribery left, right ... This process is a total sham!!! Mentioning affirmative action and all that stuff is just aimed at confusing Kenyans. I know of a similar case. Two boys in the same school chose the same National school as their first choice. Both perform very well. The one with lower marks is admitted to the school but the one with higher marks is not!!! Hii ni mademoni gani??? The parent is totally pissed off. Visits all possible offices and is given bullshit Keter - like stories. The parent is sent from office to office to the school itself until he gives up. In the end he just shows them the middle finger and looks for another school. The kid is crushed! His dream school. The one he was competing with his friend to join. He beat the friend, the friend was admitted and he was not! Try explaining that to him. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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limanika wrote:chiaroscuro wrote:Looking at the sampled children in today's newspaper, I think the problem is that candidates and their guardians are not properly advised on how to make effective choices. How does one choose Alliance, Maranda, Lenana and Maseno? All these are highly competitive schools.
If you miss Alliance with your 407marks, you will find that by the time they try to place you in Maranda, it is already filled by those who chose it as first choice. Same for Lenana, Maseno and ALL other national schools and competitive county ones.
So, you'll be left out! The only thing the ministry can do is place you anywhere else there is a space.
People must learn that CHOICES HAVE CONSEQUENCES!
GoK still carries most of the blame. Were they expecting kids to know that allocation criteria will change? I think kids should select schools online after results are out, with second chances for revision, like university selections People hardly want to take responsibility for their own actions, they want to shift the blame to some one else. And the faceless "government" makes for easy picking! This system has been in use since I was in school 36 years ago! The only thing that has changed is that now there are more national schools and provincial schools are no more! Those days [19, I chose Mangu and Lenana knowing quite well that I had little chance of getting in - I wasn't the brightest in my class, let alone my district! Then I chose Chania and Njiiri for provincial - again knowing that I was unlikely to get Njiiri because it was a highly competitive "top performer" Chania was my dream school [for being the only school with a swimming pool in the whole district!] and Mangu was my parents' dream school! Lenan and Njiiri were entered just to fill up space! My parents and I knew I wouldn't make it there because of the selection system. Eventually, I scored 31 points out of a possible 36 in CPE [without the 'K'!] and ended up in my dream school - Chania. Spent one year in the pool and grew out of swimming and concentrated on studies! ================= The problem today is that, people [parents and teachers alike] do not take time to understand the system and the advice the children accordingly. We are too busy making deals on the stock market that we forget our parental duties!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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And another thing: pupils are NOT selected to join secondary schools; they CHOOSE schools of their choice. If you don't make it to your chosen schools, the ministry posts you where there is space!
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