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RIP Gathecha
Rahatupu
#61 Posted : Monday, December 22, 2014 9:23:26 PM
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RIP Gatheca. I lost a friend last year on this Road under same circumstances. Stalled truck. He died early. Sema gory scene! Very traumatizing.
sparkly
#62 Posted : Monday, December 22, 2014 10:11:51 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
mlefu wrote:





to me it looks more like he drove under the said truck..rip


Seems like he swung left to avoid the stationary truck but unfortunately got his right side ripped off.


Looks like he drove right under the truck. Sadly this is the kind of accident that slices off the torso... ouch.
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D32
#63 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 12:54:38 AM
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Condolence to family.

I'm going to mention some things with regards to safety.

I still insist on roll cages in private rides as standard, even helmets. Makes no sense to protect pro racers in circuits, while normal folk go bare. Anyways, we can do it by our own choice without waiting for legislation.

Something that will revolutionize the car is autonomous vehicles, the advent of these vehicles will greatly reduce accidents by eliminating human error.

An autonomous Audi



Reminds me of the autonomous Audi from i robot





Regarding the S Class, they have something called Pre-Safe Brake.

http://www.automotoporta...Pre-Safe_braking_system

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Speculz
#64 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:12:13 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
smano wrote:
quicksand wrote:
And the owner and driver of the stalled truck? In the west they would be facing a long stint in prison for manslaughter. There are too many fatalities by cars ramming into stalled trucks in Kenya. The Langata road one is still fresh on my mind, drove past it and the bodies were still in the wreck, badly mutilated.
When its not fatalities, they cause ugly and expensive gridlocks when they stall on strategic roads like Mbagathi way or the causeway to Mombasa island!
Time to do something very drastic so that owners of stalled trucks move heaven on earth to chuck them from the road before jail or tens of thousands of fines come calling!



AGREED!!!Applause Applause Applause

Is there cause to sue the driver and owner of the truck for manslaughter resulting from negligence? Would set a precedent for all other cases. Shida ni autopsy reveals high alcohol levels etc. But it is a fact that stalled trucks have killed very many people...and will continue to do so...


I have been a victim and as late as two Sundays back,i witnessed a similar incidence along Eldoret-Malaba highway.What came to mind then and what happens in some countries,an authority is tasked with clearing those kind of hazards as soon as they happen.This can be done at a cost to the truck/car owner if only to spare lives.Over to you Lee Kinyanjui at NTSA.



let's face it ,ntsa will not help ,other than enhancing corruption ,thika road should be well lit ,it should be them promoting safety ,you will never see a stalled truck in kigali due to the stiff penalties .
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Am
#65 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:32:21 AM
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innairobi wrote:
Not sure which lane this truck was on but on a highway like Thika Road when driving at night, the middle lane usually carries a lower risk of stalled vehicles. So many stalled cars don't place the lifesavers at all or when they do its right next to the vehicle. I'm sure there are plenty of near misses every week if not daily.


Very True.
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kysse
#66 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:41:53 AM
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Was he married with tois?
may he rip. sijui yeye.
kysse
#67 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:47:48 AM
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Speculz wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
smano wrote:
quicksand wrote:
And the owner and driver of the stalled truck? In the west they would be facing a long stint in prison for manslaughter. There are too many fatalities by cars ramming into stalled trucks in Kenya. The Langata road one is still fresh on my mind, drove past it and the bodies were still in the wreck, badly mutilated.
When its not fatalities, they cause ugly and expensive gridlocks when they stall on strategic roads like Mbagathi way or the causeway to Mombasa island!
Time to do something very drastic so that owners of stalled trucks move heaven on earth to chuck them from the road before jail or tens of thousands of fines come calling!



AGREED!!!Applause Applause Applause

Is there cause to sue the driver and owner of the truck for manslaughter resulting from negligence? Would set a precedent for all other cases. Shida ni autopsy reveals high alcohol levels etc. But it is a fact that stalled trucks have killed very many people...and will continue to do so...


I have been a victim and as late as two Sundays back,i witnessed a similar incidence along Eldoret-Malaba highway.What came to mind then and what happens in some countries,an authority is tasked with clearing those kind of hazards as soon as they "happen.This can be done at a cost to the truck/car owner if only to spare lives.Over to you Lee Kinyanjui at NTSA.



let's face it ,ntsa will not help ,other than enhancing corruption ,thika road should be well lit ,it should be them promoting safety ,you will never see a stalled truck in kigali due to the stiff penalties .


Kiash is job hunting. A good lead this one is.
dunkang
#68 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:27:25 AM
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From my 8-4-4 analysis of the wreckage, the observations are;
1. Front section bonnet, Completely intact
2. Passenger sides, completely intact
3. Rear section (boot), completely intact
4. Driver side, damaged
5. Roof, damaged

Scenarios,
1. The car was hit from the side, I.e. murdered
2. The driver swerved so much that the car turned 90 degrees and slid hitting the stationary truck. SPEED
3. The truck was so high that the car went under and the hit something on the driver's side(??????)

Conclusion
1. very High speed driving
2. poor visibility of the truck (lighting or intoxication)
3. Negligence on the stalled truck's part (warning signs)
4. Poor road design (hindering visibility)-I highly doubt this
5. CONSPIRANCY
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McReggae
#69 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:53:39 AM
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kysse wrote:
Was he married with tois?
may he rip. sijui yeye.


Dude was only born in 1985, he had a fiancé and was a student at USIU!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Am
#70 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:35:59 AM
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McReggae wrote:
kysse wrote:
Was he married with tois?
may he rip. sijui yeye.


Dude was only born in 1985, he had a fiancé and was a student at USIU!


Being born 85 doesn't necessarily mean he does not have gathecalets. There are 85 borns with Kids Nearing High Skoolsmile smile
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#71 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:14:45 AM
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The family is from Kandara, Muranga.
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McReggae
#72 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:22:56 AM
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Am wrote:
McReggae wrote:
kysse wrote:
Was he married with tois?
may he rip. sijui yeye.


Dude was only born in 1985, he had a fiancé and was a student at USIU!


Being born 85 doesn't necessarily mean he does not have gathecalets. There are 85 borns with Kids Nearing High Skoolsmile smile


smile Agree, just wanted to point out that he was relatively young!!!!
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Buster
#73 Posted : Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:03:41 PM
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I think the guy was my neighbour. We were always fueling together almost daily same time same station...
vky
#74 Posted : Thursday, December 25, 2014 1:29:21 PM
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D32 wrote:
Condolence to family.

I'm going to mention some things with regards to safety.

I still insist on roll cages in private rides as standard, even helmets. Makes no sense to protect pro racers in circuits, while normal folk go bare. Anyways, we can do it by our own choice without waiting for legislation.

Something that will revolutionize the car is autonomous vehicles, the advent of these vehicles will greatly reduce accidents by eliminating human error.

An autonomous Audi



Reminds me of the autonomous Audi from i robot





Regarding the S Class, they have something called Pre-Safe Brake.

http://www.automotoporta...Pre-Safe_braking_system



roll cages are not practical on everyday cars, the problem is that policy in kenya limits most guys to buy 7yr old cars for tax saving purposes and as such majority of guys dont get to enjoy the top tech safety systems that are standard features in todays cars but were options in cars seven years ago, take for instance, this unfortunate gathecha chap might have survived the crash if he was driving a 2012 toyota crown with early warning radar system that warns the driver of an impending crash and even applies the brakes early to avoid the crash, if he was going too fast the early warning system would have alerted him and if he were to swerve then the ESC system would have checked in to stabilize the car.
what needs to happen is that KRA needs to review its tax protocols for used cars and KEBS should do away with the eight year rule and introduce a three year rule, this will reduce road accident fatalities significantly
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#75 Posted : Thursday, December 25, 2014 3:00:05 PM
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vky wrote:
D32 wrote:
Condolence to family.

I'm going to mention some things with regards to safety.

I still insist on roll cages in private rides as standard, even helmets. Makes no sense to protect pro racers in circuits, while normal folk go bare. Anyways, we can do it by our own choice without waiting for legislation.

Something that will revolutionize the car is autonomous vehicles, the advent of these vehicles will greatly reduce accidents by eliminating human error.

An autonomous Audi



Reminds me of the autonomous Audi from i robot





Regarding the S Class, they have something called Pre-Safe Brake.

http://www.automotoporta...Pre-Safe_braking_system



roll cages are not practical on everyday cars, the problem is that policy in kenya limits most guys to buy 7yr old cars for tax saving purposes and as such majority of guys dont get to enjoy the top tech safety systems that are standard features in todays cars but were options in cars seven years ago, take for instance, this unfortunate gathecha chap might have survived the crash if he was driving a 2012 toyota crown with early warning radar system that warns the driver of an impending crash and even applies the brakes early to avoid the crash, if he was going too fast the early warning system would have alerted him and if he were to swerve then the ESC system would have checked in to stabilize the car.
what needs to happen is that KRA needs to review its tax protocols for used cars and KEBS should do away with the eight year rule and introduce a three year rule, this will reduce road accident fatalities significantly

Ditto ^^. However, even that 7/3-yr rule shouldn't be there! Why can't we have manufacturers making their cars here? Why import? Capital flight!

I'd much rather we have Chinese making imitations locally than what we are... a dumping ground.

And what happened to the no-trucks/buses-at-night law?

Proverbs 19:21
maka
#76 Posted : Thursday, December 25, 2014 4:41:50 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
vky wrote:
D32 wrote:
Condolence to family.

I'm going to mention some things with regards to safety.

I still insist on roll cages in private rides as standard, even helmets. Makes no sense to protect pro racers in circuits, while normal folk go bare. Anyways, we can do it by our own choice without waiting for legislation.

Something that will revolutionize the car is autonomous vehicles, the advent of these vehicles will greatly reduce accidents by eliminating human error.

An autonomous Audi



Reminds me of the autonomous Audi from i robot





Regarding the S Class, they have something called Pre-Safe Brake.

http://www.automotoporta...Pre-Safe_braking_system



roll cages are not practical on everyday cars, the problem is that policy in kenya limits most guys to buy 7yr old cars for tax saving purposes and as such majority of guys dont get to enjoy the top tech safety systems that are standard features in todays cars but were options in cars seven years ago, take for instance, this unfortunate gathecha chap might have survived the crash if he was driving a 2012 toyota crown with early warning radar system that warns the driver of an impending crash and even applies the brakes early to avoid the crash, if he was going too fast the early warning system would have alerted him and if he were to swerve then the ESC system would have checked in to stabilize the car.
what needs to happen is that KRA needs to review its tax protocols for used cars and KEBS should do away with the eight year rule and introduce a three year rule, this will reduce road accident fatalities significantly

Ditto ^^. However, even that 7/3-yr rule shouldn't be there! Why can't we have manufacturers making their cars here? Why import? Capital flight!

I'd much rather we have Chinese making imitations locally than what we are... a dumping ground.

And what happened to the no-trucks/buses-at-night law?


Now we are making excuses...running away from the reality.
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KiFagio
#77 Posted : Friday, December 26, 2014 6:51:19 AM
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This man was drunk & should not have been behind the wheel. RIP.
jaggernaut
#78 Posted : Friday, December 26, 2014 7:12:39 AM
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RIP
african coloner
#79 Posted : Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:02:41 AM
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Dude was only born in 1985, he had a fiancé and was a student at USIU![/quote]

The Guy had achieved alot for his age. Proper born business man. RIP
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#80 Posted : Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:21:50 AM
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@D32, how would a roll cage have helped in this situation? The guy drove under a truck and the car was sheared, quite similar to Jules Bianchi in the Japanese Grand Prix who by the way had a roll cage.....Roll cages mitigate what the name suggests, rolls to prevent collapsing roofs. He would probably have had a better chance if he had side airbags. RIP.
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