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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2014 Posts: 120 Location: Nyali
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Indeed the so called "experts" have failed to beat the market whereas the average trader/investor has made money out of the market.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,184 Location: nairobi
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There is always a gap left to show how God is superior than man in everything. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,467
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sparkly wrote:MaichBlack wrote:I have just gone back to that thread to see when it was started. It was started on Saturday, January 04, 2014 4:06:24 PM
Now you tell me, for those who took it seriously, was it a good idea to stay of stocks in 2014??? The shares you sold did they fall or rise in price come December 2014?? Tafakari hayo.
NB: And I am not talking about the entire market. I am talking about the stocks you held. If you were holding KCB for example, wachana na performance ya KQ and Mumias if you didn't own them in the first place! @MaichBlack look at the chart below (Courtesy @Mnandii in the Elliott post). You can see that if you bought your stocks in 2012/3 around the point labelled B the rise was swift and sweet. After late 2013/early 2014 the market is just trading sideways without any definitive UP or DOWN movement.  @Sparkly - Kindly read my post in full especially the NB:Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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shrewdinvestor wrote:Indeed the so called "experts" have failed to beat the market whereas the average trader/investor has made money out of the market. There is something called a sideways market or a range bound market which is one tricky market because you don't know if the trend will break up or down. Sometimes it's not about beating the market, sometimes it's about protecting your nest. Rule No.1 make money and Rule No. 2 do not lose money...ni hayo tu!
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/1/2013 Posts: 257
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. No diagnosis,no pragnosis,no pragnosis no profit......Jesse livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2014 Posts: 120 Location: Nyali
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mlennyma wrote:There is always a gap left to show how God is superior than man in everything. AMEN!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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mkonomtupu wrote:shrewdinvestor wrote:Indeed the so called "experts" have failed to beat the market whereas the average trader/investor has made money out of the market. There is something called a sideways market or a range bound market which is one tricky market because you don't know if the trend will break up or down. Sometimes it's not about beating the market, sometimes it's about protecting your nest. Rule No.1 make money and Rule No. 2 do not lose money...ni hayo tu! Spoken like 1,000 wisemen. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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MaichBlack wrote:sparkly wrote:MaichBlack wrote:I have just gone back to that thread to see when it was started. It was started on Saturday, January 04, 2014 4:06:24 PM
Now you tell me, for those who took it seriously, was it a good idea to stay of stocks in 2014??? The shares you sold did they fall or rise in price come December 2014?? Tafakari hayo.
NB: And I am not talking about the entire market. I am talking about the stocks you held. If you were holding KCB for example, wachana na performance ya KQ and Mumias if you didn't own them in the first place! @MaichBlack look at the chart below (Courtesy @Mnandii in the Elliott post). You can see that if you bought your stocks in 2012/3 around the point labelled B the rise was swift and sweet. After late 2013/early 2014 the market is just trading sideways without any definitive UP or DOWN movement. @Sparkly - Kindly read my post in full especially the NB: @Maich I have read but still not convinced. Post your returns after Jan 2014 HERE and show us how you have beaten the sideways market. NB: Under- performing a rising market is more financially rewarding than beating a tanking market. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 830
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Technical analysts, fundies and my gut feeling all spell doom for 2015. I need a mentor to teach me about treasury bills. What are the current yields for the three month treasury bills? Any idea? Help a newbie in the debt market A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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I would like to hear @guru267 's opinion on this. Where are you? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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mkonomtupu wrote:shrewdinvestor wrote:Indeed the so called "experts" have failed to beat the market whereas the average trader/investor has made money out of the market. There is something called a sideways market or a range bound market which is one tricky market because you don't know if the trend will break up or down. Sometimes it's not about beating the market, sometimes it's about protecting your nest. Rule No.1 make money and Rule No. 2 do not lose money...ni hayo tu! Rule 1 - perfect! Rule 2 - just an illution. Replace it with "make more than you loose". Everyone has lost money, the difference is if what they have made is enough to cover the inevitable losses along the way. Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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Gatheuzi wrote:Buy Scangroup at below 46 sell at 57 after results. NIC are of similar opinion. Courtesy of @pesanane read the full script below; Pesa Nane wrote:January 2015 stock picks - Source: NIC
SCANGROUP BUY at TP 59.05 Current Price KES 45.00
♦ Currently receiving more support from parent company WPP after the latter’s increased stake saw Scangroup upgrade to a subsidiary (previously an associate).
♦ M&A activity to drive performance. Scangroup expects to increase its geographical presence and product offering across SSA through mergers and acquisitions.
♦ Acquisition of Experiential Marketing of South Africa to boost 2H14 performance. Scangroup acquired 80.04% of the marketing firm whose revenues stood at KES 1.6bn in FY13.
♦ Scangroup plans to boost revenue from digital advertising leveraging off WPP Digital, the digital arm of WPP Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Are people still buying Paka? I see it hovering at 3.71 I though they closed shop and thus should be "excommunicated" from NSE!  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2014 Posts: 120 Location: Nyali
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Scangroup trading at a discounted price of 43.5.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/1/2013 Posts: 257
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CENTUM KENOL KOBIL EQUITY MUMIAS http://www.standardmedia...to-look-out-for-in-2015
I tend to agree with this watch list No diagnosis,no pragnosis,no pragnosis no profit......Jesse livermore
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/2/2012 Posts: 21
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Impunity wrote:Are people still buying Paka? I see it hovering at 3.71 I though they closed shop and thus should be "excommunicated" from NSE! They only closed the Nakuru Factory. Not the business. Money is like manure. You have to spread it around or it smells. ~ J. Paul Getty
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,184 Location: nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:Carbacid buy 20.50 sell above 30 before or around march when they announce an interim div. #14..for the second day I have noticed volume swelling on this counter, may be someone has seen the value, when I said this 30 seemed very far but now I have adjusted selling point to 60  "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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mlennyma wrote:mlennyma wrote:Carbacid buy 20.50 sell above 30 before or around march when they announce an interim div. #14..for the second day I have noticed volume swelling on this counter, may be someone has seen the value, when I said this 30 seemed very far but now I have adjusted selling point to 60 period? vison 2030 ama? Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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S.Mutaga III wrote:Technical analysts, fundies and my gut feeling all spell doom for 2015. I need a mentor to teach me about treasury bills. What are the current yields for the three month treasury bills? Any idea? Help a newbie in the debt market Wachana na TBills, play safe in Foreign currency fixed deposits.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,703 Location: NAIROBI
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CIC and Kenya Re will give more than 50% appreciation in 2015. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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