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Rank: Member Joined: 10/27/2010 Posts: 266 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:@KulaRaha you were born the other day and you're already lying that it has been banned somewhere else, where? I am advising you to be careful with the things you are advocating, because nobody will do anything about that. ( I'm sure you were born after independence and the adhan was there since 1901, and the right was engraved in our Constitution since 1963)
Several people have tried this in many places in the world, and they have been defeated against moving to ban the Adhan. Because that is interpreting as a move to infringe on freedom of worship. Nobody can determine how Muslims should worship.
Don't attempt to try to direct Muslims on how to practise our religion. Adhan is not a new phenomenon in Islam. So I can also show up in Saudi Arabia and start beating my Akorino drums at 5.00 in the morning?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Caramba wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@KulaRaha you were born the other day and you're already lying that it has been banned somewhere else, where? I am advising you to be careful with the things you are advocating, because nobody will do anything about that. ( I'm sure you were born after independence and the adhan was there since 1901, and the right was engraved in our Constitution since 1963)
Several people have tried this in many places in the world, and they have been defeated against moving to ban the Adhan. Because that is interpreting as a move to infringe on freedom of worship. Nobody can determine how Muslims should worship.
Don't attempt to try to direct Muslims on how to practise our religion. Adhan is not a new phenomenon in Islam. So I can also show up in Saudi Arabia and start beating my Akorino drums at 5.00 in the morning? @caramba if you can find whether adhan can be heard in Vatican, then you'll find the answer to your question. Alternatively, click "Search" up there for the word "cantonment", by "alphdoti" where I discussed this issue extensively.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 846
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I really want the noise those blue subaru imprezas produce banned. I have a neighbour who wakes me up daily between 1am and 4am. Afadhali hiyo Adhan iko consistent. Plus the ugly noise that is car alarms.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/9/2009 Posts: 311
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CLK wrote:I really want the noise those blue subaru imprezas produce banned. I have a neighbour who wakes me up daily between 1am and 4am. Afadhali hiyo Adhan iko consistent. Plus the ugly noise that is car alarms. why are you envious of the 3am noise from my blue subaru impreza? why are you jealous of the 3am noise from my car alarm? Katika Jangwa la Jangili ndipo Pwagu hupata Pwaguzi.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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Jangwa la Jangili wrote:CLK wrote:I really want the noise those blue subaru imprezas produce banned. I have a neighbour who wakes me up daily between 1am and 4am. Afadhali hiyo Adhan iko consistent. Plus the ugly noise that is car alarms. why are you envious of the 3am noise from my blue subaru impreza? why are you jealous of the 3am noise from my car alarm? and anyway, it's just a one minute that I make the "noise". I consider it my call for prayer  Sure just one minute cannot wake anyone!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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AlphDoti wrote:
@guka, you always display your ignorance in religious issues. It shows that many of you are just Christians by name. You don't follow anything Jesus (pbuh) said or did and you're not even ready to do or follow.
I thought Christian is one who follows Christ. How can you be if you don't wake very early in the morning before the sun rises like Jesus used to do!! He prayed at night before going to bed too. He prayed several times during the day... This is why Muslims follow.
1. Mark 1:35
Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, and went to pray.
But it's true what he said, this is not for kina @guka, they don't understand even if they have ears, or eyes.
2. Matthew 11:25-26
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.
So, go ahead, you can fight those trying to tell yu truth. The time of Jesus (pbuh), people hated him for preaching the truth, and plotted to kill him because the followers were growing in number.
So even now, there are those elite, just like the time of Jesus (pbuh).
The truth will stand out from error.
Usual stuff from kaka doti @kaka, where's the command that we are to wake others up as we pray? Quote: But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. not shout so that we know you pray!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:AlphDoti wrote:
@guka, you always display your ignorance in religious issues. It shows that many of you are just Christians by name. You don't follow anything Jesus (pbuh) said or did and you're not even ready to do or follow.
I thought Christian is one who follows Christ. How can you be if you don't wake very early in the morning before the sun rises like Jesus used to do!! He prayed at night before going to bed too. He prayed several times during the day... This is why Muslims follow.
1. Mark 1:35
Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, and went to pray.
But it's true what he said, this is not for kina @guka, they don't understand even if they have ears, or eyes.
2. Matthew 11:25-26
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.
So, go ahead, you can fight those trying to tell yu truth. The time of Jesus (pbuh), people hated him for preaching the truth, and plotted to kill him because the followers were growing in number.
So even now, there are those elite, just like the time of Jesus (pbuh).
The truth will stand out from error.
Usual stuff from kaka doti @kaka, where's the command that we are to wake others up as we pray? Quote: But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. not shout so that we know you pray! @lonest, where did you get that quote from? The Bible? Now you believe in it?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,906
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Salalaaa! Pub drinkers at risk with their tipple, if neighbourhood revolts become a trend. This 51 Lounge in Lavington, quite popular, but in a residential area, if ever there was one. Seems the neighbours arose last night, and evicted chaps, called police etc. https://www.capitalfm.co...er-patrons-drink-leave/
Beats me why owners spent so much on everything except location?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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muganda wrote:Salalaaa! Pub drinkers at risk with their tipple, if neighbourhood revolts become a trend. This 51 Lounge in Lavington, quite popular, but in a residential area, if ever there was one. Seems the neighbours arose last night, and evicted chaps, called police etc. https://www.capitalfm.co...er-patrons-drink-leave/
Beats me why owners spent so much on everything except location? It started with Buru Buru and the makuti pubs that messed up the once nice family friendly estate. Seems the same problems have moved to lavington and the residents now have to contend with loud music and noise the whole night, blocked driveways and prostitutes at their doorsteps......and used condoms littered all over the place.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Now you guys are talking... Not those biased, one-sided hullabaloo we used to read here...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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There are many noise polluters in Nairobi, esp in residential areas. Bars, screaming mosques, those funny Sunday churches where they beat drums like mad people. Its very frustrating. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,610
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muganda wrote:Salalaaa! Pub drinkers at risk with their tipple, if neighbourhood revolts become a trend. This 51 Lounge in Lavington, quite popular, but in a residential area, if ever there was one. Seems the neighbours arose last night, and evicted chaps, called police etc. https://www.capitalfm.co...er-patrons-drink-leave/
Beats me why owners spent so much on everything except location? There goes the neighborhood. Lavington slowly being swallowed by the up-scaling middle class. Buru buru culture arrives in lavi. Next up Runda.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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KulaRaha wrote:There are many noise polluters in Nairobi, esp in residential areas.
Bars, screaming mosques, those funny Sunday churches where they beat drums like mad people.
Its very frustrating. @kularaha, how would you describe diwali fireworks, corporate roadshow promotions etc?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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AlphDoti wrote:KulaRaha wrote:There are many noise polluters in Nairobi, esp in residential areas.
Bars, screaming mosques, those funny Sunday churches where they beat drums like mad people.
Its very frustrating. @kularaha, how would you describe diwali fireworks, corporate roadshow promotions etc? Diwali fireworks seek special permission and are allocated venues and timings to do their thing. Corporate road shows are on the road and usually during day times. The above two are also not every day events - in fact they are few and far between happenings. That said, if and when there are cases where they become a nuisance they ought to be appropriately curtailed too. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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AlphDoti wrote:KulaRaha wrote:There are many noise polluters in Nairobi, esp in residential areas.
Bars, screaming mosques, those funny Sunday churches where they beat drums like mad people.
Its very frustrating. @kularaha, how would you describe diwali fireworks, corporate roadshow promotions etc? Fully agree with you...its all noise. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,884
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muganda wrote:Salalaaa! Pub drinkers at risk with their tipple, if neighbourhood revolts become a trend. This 51 Lounge in Lavington, quite popular, but in a residential area, if ever there was one. Seems the neighbours arose last night, and evicted chaps, called police etc. https://www.capitalfm.co...er-patrons-drink-leave/
Beats me why owners spent so much on everything except location? great club. been my local away from home. interestingly the road where the club is set is anything but purely residential. i doubt if there are many residential there anymore.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Ngalaka wrote:AlphDoti wrote:KulaRaha wrote:There are many noise polluters in Nairobi, esp in residential areas.
Bars, screaming mosques, those funny Sunday churches where they beat drums like mad people.
Its very frustrating. @kularaha, how would you describe diwali fireworks, corporate roadshow promotions etc? Diwali fireworks seek special permission and are allocated venues and timings to do their thing. Corporate road shows are on the road and usually during day times. The above two are also not every day events - in fact they are few and far between happenings. That said, if and when there are cases where they become a nuisance they ought to be appropriately curtailed too Adhan (call for prayer) from the mosque is average 2-3mins long and is called out only five times a day. It is also timing. In terms of noise, you cannot compare noise from diwali fireworks to adhan. Similarly, the noise from roadshows are way too loud. I think bottom-line is: what is that noise from. We're just biased society.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/21/2013 Posts: 427
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same story with space lounge, kiza, b-club et al. Will not be surprised if the ever complaining residents take cue and raid them in the coming days
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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AlphDoti wrote:Ngalaka wrote:AlphDoti wrote:KulaRaha wrote:There are many noise polluters in Nairobi, esp in residential areas.
Bars, screaming mosques, those funny Sunday churches where they beat drums like mad people.
Its very frustrating. @kularaha, how would you describe diwali fireworks, corporate roadshow promotions etc? Diwali fireworks seek special permission and are allocated venues and timings to do their thing. Corporate road shows are on the road and usually during day times. The above two are also not every day events - in fact they are few and far between happenings. That said, if and when there are cases where they become a nuisance they ought to be appropriately curtailed too Adhan (call for prayer) from the mosque is average 2-3mins long and is called out only five times a day. It is also timing. In terms of noise, you cannot compare noise from diwali fireworks to adhan. Similarly, the noise from roadshows are way too loud. I think bottom-line is: what is that noise from. We're just biased society. I think that would have worked in the ancient time when people didnt have watches, phones, whatsapp etc but today one could set an alarm to remind them that it is prayer time. So blaring on a loud speaker at 5am is outdated and very inconveniencing for those of other faiths who need their sleep at that hour.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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AlphDoti wrote:Ngalaka wrote:AlphDoti wrote:KulaRaha wrote:There are many noise polluters in Nairobi, esp in residential areas.
Bars, screaming mosques, those funny Sunday churches where they beat drums like mad people.
Its very frustrating. @kularaha, how would you describe diwali fireworks, corporate roadshow promotions etc? Diwali fireworks seek special permission and are allocated venues and timings to do their thing. Corporate road shows are on the road and usually during day times. The above two are also not every day events - in fact they are few and far between happenings. That said, if and when there are cases where they become a nuisance they ought to be appropriately curtailed too Adhan (call for prayer) from the mosque is average 2-3mins long and is called out only five times a day. It is also timing. In terms of noise, you cannot compare noise from diwali fireworks to adhan. Similarly, the noise from roadshows are way too loud. I think bottom-line is: what is that noise from. We're just biased society. Adhan is pure pollution, starting at 5am. If you want to pray, do it privately. If you want to call, do it over the radio. Don't bother me. Diwali is a nuisance. So much noise and so much smoke. Those fireworks should be banned. Roadshows I haven't experienced where I live. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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