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Buying low cost property for rental...whats your take?
kendata26
#31 Posted : Saturday, May 24, 2014 12:46:34 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Mucene wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
30% taxes on rental income.......


That's for non-resident taxpayers. Residents are taxed at the graduated rates just like income tax on salaries.


I am a resident, and will deduct interest as an expense.


You need to be smart about it, for an individual mortgage relief on interest expenses is a maximum of ksh 150,000 per year, which is certainly a lot less than interest payments for a ksh 20M mortgage. You can get round this by forming a company to own the property.


So you form a company and reduce your income by upping your "expenses" to reduce the taxable income. Arethere specific entitites that are not allowed to own property?
kendata26
#32 Posted : Saturday, May 24, 2014 6:00:12 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Mucene wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
30% taxes on rental income.......


That's for non-resident taxpayers. Residents are taxed at the graduated rates just like income tax on salaries.


I am a resident, and will deduct interest as an expense.


You need to be smart about it, for an individual mortgage relief on interest expenses is a maximum of ksh 150,000 per year, which is certainly a lot less than interest payments for a ksh 20M mortgage. You can get round this by forming a company to own the property.


So you form a company and reduce your income by upping your "expenses" to reduce the taxable income. Arethere specific entitites that are not allowed to own property?
tonicasert
#33 Posted : Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:17:50 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
jawgey wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
So when you do flats/apartments, you are better off with a ltd co. than holding the title under individual name or joint ownership!


Most definitely! esp now with itax .. KRA itanasa landlords wengi.. plus you get to enjoy capital deductions.


Kindly expound ... simple language?


At its simplest:

You build (not buy) a block with ksh 1 million
Your income from the block is 200,000 per year
Your tax is 30% of 200,000 = 60,000

Capital deductions per year is 1 million/40 = ksh 25,000
Your tax, if you claim capital deduction is 30% of 175,000 = 52,500

So, you save ksh 7, 500 tax (60,000 - 52,500) each year for 40 years

terms and conditions apply.


Do residential buildings qualify for capital deduction? Thought its only manufacturing entities.
Gordon Gekko
#34 Posted : Saturday, May 24, 2014 10:53:20 AM
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@tonicasert Depreciation is an allowable expense.
jawgey
#35 Posted : Saturday, May 24, 2014 2:56:43 PM
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tonicasert wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
jawgey wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
So when you do flats/apartments, you are better off with a ltd co. than holding the title under individual name or joint ownership!


Most definitely! esp now with itax .. KRA itanasa landlords wengi.. plus you get to enjoy capital deductions.


Kindly expound ... simple language?


At its simplest:

You build (not buy) a block with ksh 1 million
Your income from the block is 200,000 per year
Your tax is 30% of 200,000 = 60,000

Capital deductions per year is 1 million/40 = ksh 25,000
Your tax, if you claim capital deduction is 30% of 175,000 = 52,500

So, you save ksh 7, 500 tax (60,000 - 52,500) each year for 40 years

terms and conditions apply.


Do residential buildings qualify for capital deduction? Thought its only manufacturing entities.


Yes they do currently at 20% of building cost .. Basing it as a commercial building.
Seeing is believing
Chaka
#36 Posted : Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:38:08 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@tonicasert Depreciation is an allowable expense.

Forgive my ignorance..what is depreciating in this case?
Mucene
#37 Posted : Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:39:29 PM
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Location: Kenya
tonicasert wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
jawgey wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
So when you do flats/apartments, you are better off with a ltd co. than holding the title under individual name or joint ownership!


Most definitely! esp now with itax .. KRA itanasa landlords wengi.. plus you get to enjoy capital deductions.


Kindly expound ... simple language?


At its simplest:

You build (not buy) a block with ksh 1 million
Your income from the block is 200,000 per year
Your tax is 30% of 200,000 = 60,000

Capital deductions per year is 1 million/40 = ksh 25,000
Your tax, if you claim capital deduction is 30% of 175,000 = 52,500

So, you save ksh 7, 500 tax (60,000 - 52,500) each year for 40 years

terms and conditions apply.


Do residential buildings qualify for capital deduction? Thought its only manufacturing entities.


They actually do qualifying for capital deductions as an industrial building. According to the second schedule of the Income Tax Act, the following is part of the definition of an industrial building:

"a building in use rental residential building where such building is constructed in a planned development area approved by the Minister for the time being responsible for matters relating to
housing"
If you don't want to go to plan B have a good plan A.
Mucene
#38 Posted : Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:46:24 PM
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Chaka wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
@tonicasert Depreciation is an allowable expense.

Forgive my ignorance..what is depreciating in this case?


The Building
If you don't want to go to plan B have a good plan A.
tonicasert
#39 Posted : Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:46:42 PM
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Cheers, clearly my tax 101 is rusty
gatoho
#40 Posted : Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:27:34 AM
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Location: kandara, Murang'a
Forgive me but the govt doesn't see construction/purchase as costs? We need some
progressive laws
Foresight..
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