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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/11/2011 Posts: 25
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True - Mumias Sugar Company has closed shop indefinitely for lack of sugarcane after a boycott by transporters contracted to deliver. link http://www.nation.co.ke/...0/-/gal8n0z/-/index.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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After uchumi it has taken long for another company to displine pple,even if the cane was there why are our products unable to compete globally,this firm will either close in future or sell water and find other products. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Rink:They are back to service!!!!!Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Realtreaty wrote:Mumias will not go down again past 3. It will infact pick up to 4, 6, 9, 12 just before September whenthey announce FY results.President Uhuru knows what it means to have mumias up and working. It employs thousands direct and indirect. Can Mumias try sugarbeets as well if cane is not doing well? Where in Kenya do we grow sugarbeets? saaad it went 3,2 now 1.7 heading 1.00 Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 8/11/2014 Posts: 72 Location: Nairobi
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Boris Boyka wrote:Realtreaty wrote:Mumias will not go down again past 3. It will infact pick up to 4, 6, 9, 12 just before September whenthey announce FY results.President Uhuru knows what it means to have mumias up and working. It employs thousands direct and indirect. Can Mumias try sugarbeets as well if cane is not doing well? Where in Kenya do we grow sugarbeets? saaad it went 3,2 now 1.7 heading 1.00 This is a company even long term investors should avoid, there is nothing positive about it. Bulls make money,bears make money and pigs get slaughtered.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2010 Posts: 625
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Company is brought down to its knees by greed - http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/j8axxa/-/index.html.
Lack of law and order in Kenya is the biggest hindrance to development. We need a no nonsense leader to clean up the rot once and for all - so we can live in a civilized country.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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This article is so scaring to touch mumias,not normal closure???? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/19/2014 Posts: 125
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I just wonder how hard it is for the company to buy new equipment and produce sugar more efficiently and cheaply....Western province has SOOOOOOO MUCH FERTILE land going to waste...Sugar is one of the most used products in the country...how hard is it to go check out what other countries are doing and do it better....the company is capable of generating its own electricity also....
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/19/2014 Posts: 125
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jwatesh wrote:I just wonder how hard it is for the company to buy new equipment and produce sugar more efficiently and cheaply....Western province has SOOOOOOO MUCH FERTILE land going to waste...Sugar is one of the most used products in the country...how hard is it to go check out what other countries are doing and do it better....the company is capable of generating its own electricity also....Shareholders should sack all the management team
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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mv_ufanisi wrote:Company is brought down to its knees by greed - http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/j8axxa/-/index.html.
Lack of law and order in Kenya is the biggest hindrance to development. We need a no nonsense leader to clean up the rot once and for all - so we can live in a civilized country. Wenye hisa wa hi kambuni waone Kanyari ama Brazilian pastor, wapande mbegu then wataona mafanikio. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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On Mar 20 2012 paka closed @1.35. MSC looks poised to surpass that mark! The question is will it be suspended from trading if it breaks below 1/- which will be sheer madness! And for the mgmt that is well know to have committed fraud and has been highlighted in that exclusive audit report, these guys need to be handcuffed. What is the impact of destroying MSC to the econ in western region as well as the political damage? $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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Now that every one knows what went wrong, it is time to apply the fix.
If Neverready finally fingered out, why not a company whose market share and products are so solid MSC ( see the Govt importing sugar due to the closure of sugar factories...means demand exists).
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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jwatesh wrote:jwatesh wrote:I just wonder how hard it is for the company to buy new equipment and produce sugar more efficiently and cheaply....Western province has SOOOOOOO MUCH FERTILE land going to waste...Sugar is one of the most used products in the country...how hard is it to go check out what other countries are doing and do it better....the company is capable of generating its own electricity also....Shareholders should sack all the management team @mv_ufanisi post #66 says it all @jwatesh. Read it if you've not. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Poor mumias shareholders (except Gava). The fraud that has occurred to this firm has literally left me speechless! On the background i kept hearing Warren Buffets words " Investing with management you can trust" GAVA firms! especially this current one, jichungeni sana! The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2014 Posts: 268 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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jerry wrote:jwatesh wrote:jwatesh wrote:I just wonder how hard it is for the company to buy new equipment and produce sugar more efficiently and cheaply....Western province has SOOOOOOO MUCH FERTILE land going to waste...Sugar is one of the most used products in the country...how hard is it to go check out what other countries are doing and do it better....the company is capable of generating its own electricity also....Shareholders should sack all the management team @mv_ufanisi post #66 says it all @jwatesh. Read it if you've not. Where have the sellers vanished to ? supply 67100 @ 1.55 against demand 667100 @ 1.50
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2014 Posts: 268 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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Akenyan2014 wrote:jerry wrote:jwatesh wrote:jwatesh wrote:I just wonder how hard it is for the company to buy new equipment and produce sugar more efficiently and cheaply....Western province has SOOOOOOO MUCH FERTILE land going to waste...Sugar is one of the most used products in the country...how hard is it to go check out what other countries are doing and do it better....the company is capable of generating its own electricity also....Shareholders should sack all the management team @mv_ufanisi post #66 says it all @jwatesh. Read it if you've not. Where have the sellers vanished to ? supply 67100 @ 1.55 against demand 667100 @ 1.50 ok ok they have finally arrived in droves
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Akenyan2014 wrote:Akenyan2014 wrote:jerry wrote:jwatesh wrote:jwatesh wrote:I just wonder how hard it is for the company to buy new equipment and produce sugar more efficiently and cheaply....Western province has SOOOOOOO MUCH FERTILE land going to waste...Sugar is one of the most used products in the country...how hard is it to go check out what other countries are doing and do it better....the company is capable of generating its own electricity also....Shareholders should sack all the management team @mv_ufanisi post #66 says it all @jwatesh. Read it if you've not. Where have the sellers vanished to ? supply 67100 @ 1.55 against demand 667100 @ 1.50 ok ok they have finally arrived in droves Demand; 1,292,400 Supply; 2,588,000 The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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1.45 my God,!!! questions.at what point can cma intervene in a sinking company?what will workers who are not working now be paid when factory opens if it will??what is the debt/asset situation by now??is the minimum price downwards 0.05 for a share???is mumias the share that will hold the record of lowest traded share price in the nse,!!!!I will stay away even if every one in the nse will buy and be a millionaire but mumias is just waiting for uhurus comments to rally or die "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2014 Posts: 268 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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Again the Agric. CS was talking in a manner to suggest he was pleased to open up sugar imports. Could he be happier if local companies died? I think yes. Those in the know how much can be salvaged of MSC remains?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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When these sugar companies collapse they go into receivership & its major creditors bring in their receiver managers so as to milk out what they're owed. just like in cases of muhoroni,miwani e.t.c sijui mahali shareholder huwa. given their debts are in billions?? sijui. As said here in wazua invest in a company that you can visit around,check mood,compare with sector,have facts on ground then make a decision. I remember earlier on in other threads I DEMONISED this farm & gave examples of how Miwani,chemilil,muhoroni sugar companies had similar problems i& died. watu hawakutilia maanani. This MSC could collapse & no one will care for economic impact. webuye panpaper did,kikomi,rivatex among others including the ones above.Cheap imports are available. Cost of production is very high in money&time. imports are cheaper and save time. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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