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Muriel
#31 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:37:07 AM
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masukuma wrote:
limanika wrote:
I want to postulate a theory - Anything created by another being can never rise to the same level of knowledge as the creator. A car or computer will never rise to the same level as the human brain. So, as long as man is under the sun, he will never have answers to some of these questions.
Let me add that I believe in theory of creation as told in the Bible. I hold that the universe (planets, stars etc) were the subject of the first creation billions of years before man came into the scene. We are rightly not given the details.
Then at some point, the Almighty decided to create life – plants, animals and man (Read Genesis). Again we are rightly not given some of the details.
In retrospect, I would believe, at the point of the ‘second’ creation, various planets were considered to host life (in the proposed form that was under consideration). Once the earth was chosen, it must be that some pre-existing conditions on earth somewhat influenced the form that life would take on earth. That’s why there is seamless interaction between the human body and environment – consider how all the different body organs were designed to function seamlessly to make a complete you. Consider all the body systems. This could not have been an accident.
Let’s assume another planet such as mars was chosen to host life. In that case, then the human body would have been created to adapt, survive and thrive in that environment.
We are not here by accident
Now, consider that, in order to survive on earth, the following has to be in place:
.Planet earth has to be in the habitable zone relative to the sun. Not too close to the sun and not too far away. So much so, no other planet in the solar system is habitable.
.Planet earth has to be shielded from meteorites from out there by other bigger planets – e.g. Jupiter.
.Planet earth must have plenty of water – without which life is impossible
.The atmospheric pressure on earth must just be right for the human body – consider that astronauts who stay in the international space station for long come with their ‘eyeballs popping out’
.Planet earth must have numerous minerals in place – consider all the elements in the periodic table which make life meaningful
Man is therefore a masterpiece, the product from a master designer. There are questions we will never be able to answer as long as we are under the sun and this is OK in my view. We do not know why the creator, decided not to disclose some of this information to His Creatures. I hold that this is what was/is right in His wisdom. As such, man is left to wonder, explore and discover – one thing at a time. I hold that this non-disclosure, and resulting curiosity, is not accidental- it has its place in the overall master plan. Sorry if I digressed.

While I belong to your school of thought but in order to keep this a nice discussion (no religious and hamburglar theories) lets keep it futuristic and present. theories of origin huleta maneno sana. let's appreciate our universe without passions flaring up all over - the important thing is that WE ARE HERE and its awesome.


lol!

Anyway, I agree with all the above. With that we are 'experiments', in a 'petri dish' too. We are supposed to 'prove' something whether or not it is true or false.

I also believe that earth is going to be invaded by certain 'aliens' who will take away some, not all, humans with them (and I hope to be one of them) while they destroy all the rest and leave dead bodies and destruction all over the earth in their wake.

Oh, and no 'superhero' will save earth unlike in the movies! Exciting times are ahead, friends!
masukuma
#32 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:43:26 AM
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Muriel wrote:
masukuma wrote:
limanika wrote:
I want to postulate a theory - Anything created by another being can never rise to the same level of knowledge as the creator. A car or computer will never rise to the same level as the human brain. So, as long as man is under the sun, he will never have answers to some of these questions.
Let me add that I believe in theory of creation as told in the Bible. I hold that the universe (planets, stars etc) were the subject of the first creation billions of years before man came into the scene. We are rightly not given the details.
Then at some point, the Almighty decided to create life – plants, animals and man (Read Genesis). Again we are rightly not given some of the details.
In retrospect, I would believe, at the point of the ‘second’ creation, various planets were considered to host life (in the proposed form that was under consideration). Once the earth was chosen, it must be that some pre-existing conditions on earth somewhat influenced the form that life would take on earth. That’s why there is seamless interaction between the human body and environment – consider how all the different body organs were designed to function seamlessly to make a complete you. Consider all the body systems. This could not have been an accident.
Let’s assume another planet such as mars was chosen to host life. In that case, then the human body would have been created to adapt, survive and thrive in that environment.
We are not here by accident
Now, consider that, in order to survive on earth, the following has to be in place:
.Planet earth has to be in the habitable zone relative to the sun. Not too close to the sun and not too far away. So much so, no other planet in the solar system is habitable.
.Planet earth has to be shielded from meteorites from out there by other bigger planets – e.g. Jupiter.
.Planet earth must have plenty of water – without which life is impossible
.The atmospheric pressure on earth must just be right for the human body – consider that astronauts who stay in the international space station for long come with their ‘eyeballs popping out’
.Planet earth must have numerous minerals in place – consider all the elements in the periodic table which make life meaningful
Man is therefore a masterpiece, the product from a master designer. There are questions we will never be able to answer as long as we are under the sun and this is OK in my view. We do not know why the creator, decided not to disclose some of this information to His Creatures. I hold that this is what was/is right in His wisdom. As such, man is left to wonder, explore and discover – one thing at a time. I hold that this non-disclosure, and resulting curiosity, is not accidental- it has its place in the overall master plan. Sorry if I digressed.

While I belong to your school of thought but in order to keep this a nice discussion (no religious and hamburglar theories) lets keep it futuristic and present. theories of origin huleta maneno sana. let's appreciate our universe without passions flaring up all over - the important thing is that WE ARE HERE and its awesome.


lol!

Anyway, I agree with all the above. With that we are 'experiments', in a 'petri dish' too. We are supposed to 'prove' something whether or not it is true or false.

I also believe that earth is going to be invaded by certain 'aliens' who will take away some, not all, humans with them (and I hope to be one of them) while they destroy all the rest and leave dead bodies and destruction all over the earth in their wake.

Oh, and no 'superhero' will save earth unlike in the movies! Exciting times are ahead, friends!

how? why? its probable
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Pedes
#33 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:06:15 AM
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Joined: 9/30/2013
Posts: 659
masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:
masukuma wrote:
limanika wrote:
I want to postulate a theory - Anything created by another being can never rise to the same level of knowledge as the creator. A car or computer will never rise to the same level as the human brain. So, as long as man is under the sun, he will never have answers to some of these questions.
Let me add that I believe in theory of creation as told in the Bible. I hold that the universe (planets, stars etc) were the subject of the first creation billions of years before man came into the scene. We are rightly not given the details.
Then at some point, the Almighty decided to create life – plants, animals and man (Read Genesis). Again we are rightly not given some of the details.
In retrospect, I would believe, at the point of the ‘second’ creation, various planets were considered to host life (in the proposed form that was under consideration). Once the earth was chosen, it must be that some pre-existing conditions on earth somewhat influenced the form that life would take on earth. That’s why there is seamless interaction between the human body and environment – consider how all the different body organs were designed to function seamlessly to make a complete you. Consider all the body systems. This could not have been an accident.
Let’s assume another planet such as mars was chosen to host life. In that case, then the human body would have been created to adapt, survive and thrive in that environment.
We are not here by accident
Now, consider that, in order to survive on earth, the following has to be in place:
.Planet earth has to be in the habitable zone relative to the sun. Not too close to the sun and not too far away. So much so, no other planet in the solar system is habitable.
.Planet earth has to be shielded from meteorites from out there by other bigger planets – e.g. Jupiter.
.Planet earth must have plenty of water – without which life is impossible
.The atmospheric pressure on earth must just be right for the human body – consider that astronauts who stay in the international space station for long come with their ‘eyeballs popping out’
.Planet earth must have numerous minerals in place – consider all the elements in the periodic table which make life meaningful
Man is therefore a masterpiece, the product from a master designer. There are questions we will never be able to answer as long as we are under the sun and this is OK in my view. We do not know why the creator, decided not to disclose some of this information to His Creatures. I hold that this is what was/is right in His wisdom. As such, man is left to wonder, explore and discover – one thing at a time. I hold that this non-disclosure, and resulting curiosity, is not accidental- it has its place in the overall master plan. Sorry if I digressed.

While I belong to your school of thought but in order to keep this a nice discussion (no religious and hamburglar theories) lets keep it futuristic and present. theories of origin huleta maneno sana. let's appreciate our universe without passions flaring up all over - the important thing is that WE ARE HERE and its awesome.


lol!

Anyway, I agree with all the above. With that we are 'experiments', in a 'petri dish' too. We are supposed to 'prove' something whether or not it is true or false.

I also believe that earth is going to be invaded by certain 'aliens' who will take away some, not all, humans with them (and I hope to be one of them) while they destroy all the rest and leave dead bodies and destruction all over the earth in their wake.

Oh, and no 'superhero' will save earth unlike in the movies! Exciting times are ahead, friends!

how? why? its probable


The same way an ant has no quarrel with a boot that steps on it.
If you stay ready, no need to get ready.
masukuma
#34 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:56:28 AM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Pedes wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:
masukuma wrote:
limanika wrote:
I want to postulate a theory - Anything created by another being can never rise to the same level of knowledge as the creator. A car or computer will never rise to the same level as the human brain. So, as long as man is under the sun, he will never have answers to some of these questions.
Let me add that I believe in theory of creation as told in the Bible. I hold that the universe (planets, stars etc) were the subject of the first creation billions of years before man came into the scene. We are rightly not given the details.
Then at some point, the Almighty decided to create life – plants, animals and man (Read Genesis). Again we are rightly not given some of the details.
In retrospect, I would believe, at the point of the ‘second’ creation, various planets were considered to host life (in the proposed form that was under consideration). Once the earth was chosen, it must be that some pre-existing conditions on earth somewhat influenced the form that life would take on earth. That’s why there is seamless interaction between the human body and environment – consider how all the different body organs were designed to function seamlessly to make a complete you. Consider all the body systems. This could not have been an accident.
Let’s assume another planet such as mars was chosen to host life. In that case, then the human body would have been created to adapt, survive and thrive in that environment.
We are not here by accident
Now, consider that, in order to survive on earth, the following has to be in place:
.Planet earth has to be in the habitable zone relative to the sun. Not too close to the sun and not too far away. So much so, no other planet in the solar system is habitable.
.Planet earth has to be shielded from meteorites from out there by other bigger planets – e.g. Jupiter.
.Planet earth must have plenty of water – without which life is impossible
.The atmospheric pressure on earth must just be right for the human body – consider that astronauts who stay in the international space station for long come with their ‘eyeballs popping out’
.Planet earth must have numerous minerals in place – consider all the elements in the periodic table which make life meaningful
Man is therefore a masterpiece, the product from a master designer. There are questions we will never be able to answer as long as we are under the sun and this is OK in my view. We do not know why the creator, decided not to disclose some of this information to His Creatures. I hold that this is what was/is right in His wisdom. As such, man is left to wonder, explore and discover – one thing at a time. I hold that this non-disclosure, and resulting curiosity, is not accidental- it has its place in the overall master plan. Sorry if I digressed.

While I belong to your school of thought but in order to keep this a nice discussion (no religious and hamburglar theories) lets keep it futuristic and present. theories of origin huleta maneno sana. let's appreciate our universe without passions flaring up all over - the important thing is that WE ARE HERE and its awesome.


lol!

Anyway, I agree with all the above. With that we are 'experiments', in a 'petri dish' too. We are supposed to 'prove' something whether or not it is true or false.

I also believe that earth is going to be invaded by certain 'aliens' who will take away some, not all, humans with them (and I hope to be one of them) while they destroy all the rest and leave dead bodies and destruction all over the earth in their wake.

Oh, and no 'superhero' will save earth unlike in the movies! Exciting times are ahead, friends!

how? why? its probable


The same way an ant has no quarrel with a boot that steps on it.

hahaha.... 'ant - boot' i know that reference!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Wakanyugi
#35 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:02:01 PM
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murchr wrote:


And the universe is still expanding, just imagine...


What would really boil your noodle is the following fact: YOU created all of it, and you continue to do so every minute.

No, not religion.

Scientific fact, LINK


"If the Explicate is but a “projection” of the Implicate, then we—our physical selves, and indeed all of physical reality—are a “projection” of our true, unfiltered consciousness. One that we all play a hand in creating, whether we know it or not..."
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
masukuma
#36 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:38:24 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
murchr wrote:


And the universe is still expanding, just imagine...


What would really boil your noodle is the following fact: YOU created all of it, and you continue to do so every minute.

No, not religion.

Scientific fact, LINK


"If the Explicate is but a “projection” of the Implicate, then we—our physical selves, and indeed all of physical reality—are a “projection” of our true, unfiltered consciousness. One that we all play a hand in creating, whether we know it or not..."

the Big Bang, expansion, contraction (big Crunch), collapse, Big Bang again may have happened over and over again and that I may have written this exact statement over and over again as I shall again in a couple of billion years...... all these are our SQL13 brains postulating - its like a plant trying to unravel the secrets of the universe (multiverse) e.t.c.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
murchr
#37 Posted : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:35:01 AM
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For those who'd like to watch a space launch



The Russian is a no nonsense guy, the American well no big deal, the Briton is over excited

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Cornelius Vanderbilt
#38 Posted : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:36:51 AM
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the created can never fully understand The Creator.maybe if you start from there you can answer this question.
T-Bag
#39 Posted : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 11:07:46 AM
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The universe is teeming with life but not necessarily life as we know it.Thank "God" someone is asking these questions! Lol! I am not mad after all, I have had similar awakening but could not explain to any one coz people are more occupied with daily bread and breeding.
I AM trust in GOD, I AM belief in THYSELF
masukuma
#40 Posted : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 12:23:37 PM
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:



the created can never fully understand The Creator.maybe if you start from there you can answer this question.

what's your point of reference while making such a sweeping statement?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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