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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Am wrote:Lolest! wrote:@washiku, I like your idea. It's close to what KTDA does with Tea farmers. I was actually pondering over what we need to do to make rural Kenya more attractive. People are refusing to retire there. Electricity connection is not enough. Such ideas could reduce rural-urban migration. Guys leaving acres of land to a life of suffering in the city Na wewe Vile nakuonaga hata hauwezi karibia gishagi.  niko kama akina @kiash 
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/25/2011 Posts: 368 Location: Nairobi
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Am wrote:kysse wrote:washiku wrote: There are several companies that could offer the market for such eg Homegrown, Homegrown became Finlays long ago.-I bet they have now fully settled in Naivasha.
Finlays operate their own farms in Timau,Naivasha and somewhere else to serve their markets abroad.
They also use dudutech in their farms to avoid the use of chemicals as per the market requirements.
Most of these export companies don't source the market for growers.Their work is to ship what you bring to them,though it's good to know them because a buyer may place an inquiry for certain veges through them.
Just a tip, Avocadoes have huge market in the Middle East-dxb,kuwait,SA,France hata Norway! So if you come across an avocado farmer,I can link you with maersk line trainers who will teach them about the variety required for export and how to harvest them from the trees-very critical.
Not a bad idea.Just challenging @Waciku. The above red part is something you need to clarify with the exporter before anything else. I do some bit of export farming and can assure you that you are wrong on above statement. Not to kill your dream though yah? Yes, they may take what you bring, accept and export but do you want to sell your produce at 25/= per kilo when market dictates 65/=? Greens Export market is dominated by Mhindi and some MEAN Mzungu, worse than a Nyerian!There lies the problem. If you look at my earlier post, I Insisted on negotiation (price) with exporters before putting farmers together and selling the idea to them. As soon as market is sorted, the rest is nyweeeeee. Best. You write such a good post and spoil everything by making a negative statement about people who happened to be born from a particular area. On another note, what is it that Mhindi and Mzungu have that others do not have? I find that for those businesses where extreme hardwork and lots of patience is required, Mhindi's have dominated. May be these are the things that we lack. And by the way, please give us the breakdown of returns for avocado. May be this is the best place to start because I guess avocados requires very little labour and startup cost, although it might take long before the firt harvest.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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tassia wrote:Am wrote:kysse wrote:washiku wrote: There are several companies that could offer the market for such eg Homegrown, Homegrown became Finlays long ago.-I bet they have now fully settled in Naivasha.
Finlays operate their own farms in Timau,Naivasha and somewhere else to serve their markets abroad.
They also use dudutech in their farms to avoid the use of chemicals as per the market requirements.
Most of these export companies don't source the market for growers.Their work is to ship what you bring to them,though it's good to know them because a buyer may place an inquiry for certain veges through them.
Just a tip, Avocadoes have huge market in the Middle East-dxb,kuwait,SA,France hata Norway! So if you come across an avocado farmer,I can link you with maersk line trainers who will teach them about the variety required for export and how to harvest them from the trees-very critical.
Not a bad idea.Just challenging @Waciku. The above red part is something you need to clarify with the exporter before anything else. I do some bit of export farming and can assure you that you are wrong on above statement. Not to kill your dream though yah? Yes, they may take what you bring, accept and export but do you want to sell your produce at 25/= per kilo when market dictates 65/=? Greens Export market is dominated by Mhindi and some MEAN Mzungu, worse than a Nyerian!There lies the problem. If you look at my earlier post, I Insisted on negotiation (price) with exporters before putting farmers together and selling the idea to them. As soon as market is sorted, the rest is nyweeeeee. Best. You write such a good post and spoil everything by making a negative statement about people who happened to be born from a particular area. On another note, what is it that Mhindi and Mzungu have that others do not have? I find that for those businesses where extreme hardwork and lots of patience is required, Mhindi's have dominated. May be these are the things that we lack.And by the way, please give us the breakdown of returns for avocado. May be this is the best place to start because I guess avocados requires very little labour and startup cost, although it might take long before the firt harvest. I think what @Am is referring to is the cartel-like groups that exists in such export business. Maybe the trick is to look for a way of them counting you as one of them coz beating them might be a big battle. If the only determinant was hardwork, my villagers would easily handle that, I am sure.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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@Kysse, I need more info on the avocado business. My other shags guys in Saba Saba area, past kenol, may be beneficiaries.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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washiku wrote:@Kysse, I need more info on the avocado business. My other shags guys in Saba Saba area, past kenol, may be beneficiaries. Start here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csZZ_LXYtu0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZd4MNHZN2M. I will bring this lady to the farm if you have avocado farmers with export potential. They conduct free training as long as the business is guaranteed. There are avocado varieties for export sio zile kubwa kubwa zinakaa kama football. The small pimpled green variety are the best. Though seasonal,they fetch good prices abroad. I can give you an idea.Buy from growers and become the shipper.You don't have to own a farm but you can buy and export on their behalf. That assures you good volumes,bigger market and nice returns. Be careful with the buyers too. Some refuse to pay after delivery, so come to agreement with your buyers first before you consider shipping. Contact me when ready and I will give you the best shipping rates possible.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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washiku wrote:@Kysse, I need more info on the avocado business. My other shags guys in Saba Saba area, past kenol, may be beneficiaries. @WaShiko... Siongei...... Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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tassia wrote:Am wrote:kysse wrote:washiku wrote: There are several companies that could offer the market for such eg Homegrown, Homegrown became Finlays long ago.-I bet they have now fully settled in Naivasha.
Finlays operate their own farms in Timau,Naivasha and somewhere else to serve their markets abroad.
They also use dudutech in their farms to avoid the use of chemicals as per the market requirements.
Most of these export companies don't source the market for growers.Their work is to ship what you bring to them,though it's good to know them because a buyer may place an inquiry for certain veges through them.
Just a tip, Avocadoes have huge market in the Middle East-dxb,kuwait,SA,France hata Norway! So if you come across an avocado farmer,I can link you with maersk line trainers who will teach them about the variety required for export and how to harvest them from the trees-very critical.
Not a bad idea.Just challenging @Waciku. The above red part is something you need to clarify with the exporter before anything else. I do some bit of export farming and can assure you that you are wrong on above statement. Not to kill your dream though yah? Yes, they may take what you bring, accept and export but do you want to sell your produce at 25/= per kilo when market dictates 65/=? Greens Export market is dominated by Mhindi and some MEAN Mzungu, worse than a Nyerian!There lies the problem. If you look at my earlier post, I Insisted on negotiation (price) with exporters before putting farmers together and selling the idea to them. As soon as market is sorted, the rest is nyweeeeee. Best. You write such a good post and spoil everything by making a negative statement about people who happened to be born from a particular area. On another note, what is it that Mhindi and Mzungu have that others do not have? I find that for those businesses where extreme hardwork and lots of patience is required, Mhindi's have dominated. May be these are the things that we lack. And by the way, please give us the breakdown of returns for avocado. May be this is the best place to start because I guess avocados requires very little labour and startup cost, although it might take long before the firt harvest. Pole @Tassia. Lakini ni ukweli. I hear Mwai cannot contribute 100/= in a burial committee meeting. Anyway, I meant to say that the big boys control the market. They have the advantage of knowing who needs the produce in the UK, and therefore do wine and game meat daily, earning millions while the poor farmers fetches 25/= for a kilo of bullet chillies or Ravaya while its sold at Heathrow greens sheds @550/= a kilo. I know what I'm talking about and hope you can understand my frustration.... Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Am wrote:washiku wrote:@Kysse, I need more info on the avocado business. My other shags guys in Saba Saba area, past kenol, may be beneficiaries. @WaShiko... Siongei...... Kwani ni kwenu pia
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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@ washiku. I have two avocado importers in the middle east that I can introduce you to, but on 1 condition.I will ship it. hata mimi sitaki umaskini. I avoid marketing for customers for one or two reasons but it's the spirit here so karibu. Once you enter export market you get to understand the dynamics and grow.
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