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cnn
#31 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 5:10:29 PM
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young wrote:
young wrote:
@All

Please be informed that attending 1000%
gain in value in 10 years is not rocket science. What I mean is that it is
not as difficult as you think.

MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN NSE.
I bought 1,000 shares of KCB in my first debut in
July 2004 at 45 bob per share ie 45,000 bob (Ex commissions)
KCB declared a loss in FY 2013 so her shares were
at the lowest ebb.
KCB rose to 180 in 2007 and did a 10 for 1 split.
That means my initial 1,000 shares became 10,000
and my cost price became 4.5 bob instead of 45 bob.
Now my 10,000 units of KCB is 44.25 bob per share ie approaching
45 bob in 9 years . When this happens ( I think very soon)
my 45,000 bob of shares will be worth 450,000 bob
the ALMIGHTY 1,000%. This does not include numerious
dividends over the years. My dividend per share in 2005 was 50 cents
now it is close to 2 bob.





U la la KCB has printed 45.00 bob !!!
My first investment in KCB in 2004 has returned
10 times (1000%) in 9 years 2004 - 2013

@young,well done.If you buy into a good business at the right price the rewards are immense.
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mwekez@ji
#32 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 5:22:56 PM
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cnn wrote:
young wrote:
young wrote:
@All

Please be informed that attending 1000%
gain in value in 10 years is not rocket science. What I mean is that it is
not as difficult as you think.

MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN NSE.
I bought 1,000 shares of KCB in my first debut in
July 2004 at 45 bob per share ie 45,000 bob (Ex commissions)
KCB declared a loss in FY 2013 so her shares were
at the lowest ebb.
KCB rose to 180 in 2007 and did a 10 for 1 split.
That means my initial 1,000 shares became 10,000
and my cost price became 4.5 bob instead of 45 bob.
Now my 10,000 units of KCB is 44.25 bob per share ie approaching
45 bob in 9 years . When this happens ( I think very soon)
my 45,000 bob of shares will be worth 450,000 bob
the ALMIGHTY 1,000%. This does not include numerious
dividends over the years. My dividend per share in 2005 was 50 cents
now it is close to 2 bob.





U la la KCB has printed 45.00 bob !!!
My first investment in KCB in 2004 has returned
10 times (1000%) in 9 years 2004 - 2013

@young,well done.If you buy into a good business at the right price the rewards are immense.


congrats @young. You have truly held this for long and it has paid well. do you now intend to sell them?
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sparkly
#33 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 6:01:32 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
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Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Rea Vipingo, Centum, Housing Finance, NIC, DTB, NMG and all Insurance companies.
Life is short. Live passionately.
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young
#34 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 6:18:22 PM
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Location: Lagos, Nigeria
@mwekez@ji

I have already sold my 10,000 units of KCB today
as I cannot ask for more as I do not think KCB will repeat this feat in the next 10 years.

I split them to position 40/30/30% for HFC, Panafric and Bamburi. Mid tier banks are good, but my problem is that while growing in value they return miserly dividends. Dividends are very important to me so that while waiting like
2008 - 2010, I still receive reasonable dividends.


Meanwhile be aware still retain some units of KCB I bought at later date like the rights I bought at 18 etc.

Generally it is good to re-appraise your stocks and decide whether to continue or change for other opportunities as they beckon.

I have not denied the fact that I am unrepentant long termer in stocks.
This is because I am a young old man of 51 years
I cannot afford to take big risk which might result in big gain or big loss. I stay with blue chips.
I am more than happy with good dividends with moderate growth (20% upwards). Recall my illustration that if your stock gow by average of 27% per annum it will surely multiply 10 times in 10 years.
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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young
#35 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 6:39:41 PM
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young wrote:
In general if average growth rate in the value of your
stock is 27% a year you can attain 1000%
in ten years.

Lets us say Mzee buys 1000 units of shares
at 1 bob. Lets see the extrapolation at 27% over 10 years

Year 1 1000x1.27 = 1270
year 2. 1270x 1.27 =1612.9
year 3. 1612.9x1.27=2048.38
year 4. 2048.38x1.27=2601.45
year 5. 2601.45x1.27= 3303.83
year 6. 3304.83x1.27= 4195.87
year 7. 4195.87x1.27= 5328.76
year 8. 5328.76x1.27= 6767.52
year 9. 6767.52x1.27= 8594.75
year 10. 8594.75x1.27=10915.33


The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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Gadaffi
#36 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 7:22:44 PM
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NBK!!! I believe
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mwekez@ji
#37 Posted : Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:22:11 AM
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@young, Muchas gracias. This thread has brought a fresh perspective on long term investing. Very good thread.
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mwekez@ji
#38 Posted : Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:24:16 AM
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Gadaffi wrote:
NBK!!! I believe


When should we expect them to start doing true banking and not just lending to GOK?
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King G
#39 Posted : Saturday, August 17, 2013 1:18:35 PM
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@young, thanks for the advice. For me, ARM despite mean dividend policy has been wonderful in capital gains (average buy 29 bob). After the split the gains has been enormous. I need to bail out now to where i dont know.....

if @51 you are still you, then i am a baby. Serious encouragement.
Thieves
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young
#40 Posted : Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:26:53 PM
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@King G said,

"After the split the gains has been enormous "


Good stocks always grow faster after the split.
They first grow in value and then split.
In fact if stock do not split it may be difficult to grow in multiples. Stock splits
rarely happens, averagely once in 10 years.

This will happen in the new few years with EABL,
NMG, JUB, SCB, SCAN, BAMBURI, PANAFRIC.

I have positioned in all of them except SCAN because of her misely dividend policy.
You will notice that foreign investors position
on these stocks while locals consider them as bein expensive i(n face value).

The party in ARM is not yet over I see it nearing 100 next year, but I do not like her dividend policy. You can equally wait a bit longer if you prefer.

This is purely a long term perspective.

The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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