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Thank you @Alph Doti. Great is Allah!
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AlphDoti wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:My studies, thought, and overall experience as a being (including prayer and revelation), have finally brought me to a point where I can define 'religion' usefully.
To me religion is the set of acts, ideas, symbols, rituals and language that is used to remind and guide one on identity, purpose and morality.
... To cut a long story short, I have decided to embrace a religion that embraces all religions.
I will pray and worship like a Muslim, upholding the straight path, meditate like Buddha, and live the Man God.
... My religion must also include indiscriminate conversation and love, and a candid pursuit of truth. Ah,tycho.I came to the same conclusion too. In my opinion no religion advocates for hate and injustices but truth and love. @tycho and @ChessMaster I congratulate you!!! Religion is way of life. It is not just remembering truth or claiming truth, but living that truth! Let's touch base later...In the meantime, I pray to Allah to guide you right. @harrydre always seek the truth. Nobody is an expert of knowledge. Seek knowledge from trusted sources. But the idea of being paranoid about everything is will only make you valnarable to emotinal manipulation. That's why you see some followers closing their minds, following things, even when those things are against their common sense, they don't question. God says in the Quran (NB - these are not exact words): I've given you the brain to think, to differentiate you from animals. Thank you. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:Let us find the truth about how religion and art ought to relate, and how they have related.
For example, why does it seem like Christianity has negated the law against 'graven images'? Can you give an example.Don't exactly get that. Exodus 20: 4 - 6. 'Primitive' man religion and art. Generally, religion and art. When it comes to such issues I go back to Christ. He focused on love. He said love God and love your neighbours.If you love God you will obey the first four commandments.If you love your neighbour you will follow the next six. Now whether or not God will enforce the old testament to the letter,I don't know. My findings: 1. All the Commandments have a scientific basis, and are essentially one as Christ postulated in 'Love thy God with all your heart and mind, and thy neighbor as thy self'. 2. Enforcement of the Law remains consistent. 3. The 'jealousy' of God is an expression of this consistency of enforcement. 4. It can be shown that breaking the Laws spreads even to the third generation, logically. 5. Islamic art is more faithful to these laws than Christian art. 6. Christian art has shown and supported the spiritual evolution of Man more than Islamic art. 7. The way forward in the upholding of the commandments is the creation of live and interactive digital art.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:Let us find the truth about how religion and art ought to relate, and how they have related.
For example, why does it seem like Christianity has negated the law against 'graven images'? Can you give an example.Don't exactly get that. Exodus 20: 4 - 6. 'Primitive' man religion and art. Generally, religion and art. When it comes to such issues I go back to Christ. He focused on love. He said love God and love your neighbours.If you love God you will obey the first four commandments.If you love your neighbour you will follow the next six. Now whether or not God will enforce the old testament to the letter,I don't know. My findings: 1. All the Commandments have a scientific basis, and are essentially one as Christ postulated in 'Love thy God with all your heart and mind, and thy neighbor as thy self'. 2. Enforcement of the Law remains consistent. 3. The 'jealousy' of God is an expression of this consistency of enforcement. 4. It can be shown that breaking the Laws spreads even to the third generation, logically. 5. Islamic art is more faithful to these laws than Christian art. 6. Christian art has shown and supported the spiritual evolution of Man more than Islamic art. 7. The way forward in the upholding of the commandments is the creation of live and interactive digital art. Could you care to explain the scientific basis. When it comes to that I like to remind myself that God can bless you 100fold. The tenth commandment is surely under threat when it comes to digital life. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Matthew 17:20 He replied, "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you." I don't know how to explain it but I have seen great things and my unselfish prayers have all been answered and exceeded all my expectations. Try a little faith and see. Test Jesus with your questions. Raise your expectations. Do you know how small a mustard seed is? BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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2012 wrote:Matthew 17:20 He replied, "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you." I don't know how to explain it but I have seen great things and my unselfish prayers have all been answered and exceeded all my expectations. Try a little faith and see. Test Jesus with your questions. Raise your expectations. Do you know how small a mustard seed is? This too has been my experience.I appreciate your kind words. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:Let us find the truth about how religion and art ought to relate, and how they have related.
For example, why does it seem like Christianity has negated the law against 'graven images'? Can you give an example.Don't exactly get that. Exodus 20: 4 - 6. 'Primitive' man religion and art. Generally, religion and art. When it comes to such issues I go back to Christ. He focused on love. He said love God and love your neighbours.If you love God you will obey the first four commandments.If you love your neighbour you will follow the next six. Now whether or not God will enforce the old testament to the letter,I don't know. My findings: 1. All the Commandments have a scientific basis, and are essentially one as Christ postulated in 'Love thy God with all your heart and mind, and thy neighbor as thy self'. 2. Enforcement of the Law remains consistent. 3. The 'jealousy' of God is an expression of this consistency of enforcement. 4. It can be shown that breaking the Laws spreads even to the third generation, logically. 5. Islamic art is more faithful to these laws than Christian art. 6. Christian art has shown and supported the spiritual evolution of Man more than Islamic art. 7. The way forward in the upholding of the commandments is the creation of live and interactive digital art. Could you care to explain the scientific basis. When it comes to that I like to remind myself that God can bless you 100fold. The tenth commandment is surely under threat when it comes to digital life. You remind me of Fermat's last theorem. The proof for your question is too long to fit wazua's margins. But if you start from cosmology to how the brain is connected to spirituality you shall surely find the proof. All commandments are intact and strong, in fact the digital age will be more God fearing than any other age.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:Let us find the truth about how religion and art ought to relate, and how they have related.
For example, why does it seem like Christianity has negated the law against 'graven images'? Can you give an example.Don't exactly get that. Exodus 20: 4 - 6. 'Primitive' man religion and art. Generally, religion and art. When it comes to such issues I go back to Christ. He focused on love. He said love God and love your neighbours.If you love God you will obey the first four commandments.If you love your neighbour you will follow the next six. Now whether or not God will enforce the old testament to the letter,I don't know. My findings: 1. All the Commandments have a scientific basis, and are essentially one as Christ postulated in 'Love thy God with all your heart and mind, and thy neighbor as thy self'. 2. Enforcement of the Law remains consistent. 3. The 'jealousy' of God is an expression of this consistency of enforcement. 4. It can be shown that breaking the Laws spreads even to the third generation, logically. 5. Islamic art is more faithful to these laws than Christian art. 6. Christian art has shown and supported the spiritual evolution of Man more than Islamic art. 7. The way forward in the upholding of the commandments is the creation of live and interactive digital art. Could you care to explain the scientific basis. When it comes to that I like to remind myself that God can bless you 100fold. The tenth commandment is surely under threat when it comes to digital life. You remind me of Fermat's last theorem.The proof for your question is too long to fit wazua's margins. But if you start from cosmology to how the brain is connected to spirituality you shall surely find the proof. All commandments are intact and strong, in fact the digital age will be more God fearing than any other age. Now you've given me something to think about. I hope to see that. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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I'm watching Life of Pi,feels like we were reviewing the movie Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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ChessMaster wrote:I'm watching Life of Pi,feels like we were reviewing the movie New thoughts?
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