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'Brave new world' - conversation on postmodern cosmology.
ChessMaster
#31 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:52:45 PM
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tycho wrote:
Religions have their cosmologies, but they have been in a never ending conflict with natural science.

Cosmology is the bedrock of all human action. It determines technology and its effects.

It is also the bedrock of faith and spirituality.


I've never thought about it but its true.Both seek to define the same object but only one chooses to measure. How did the greeks and romans name their gods after planets some hadn't been discovered?
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#32 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:03:06 PM
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Can time be described as also a measurement of change in the state of energy?
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tycho
#33 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:05:36 PM
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There have been times when religion and science have been one.

Or rather, there have been times when Man has been conscious of this identity.

Or even if one felt, or suspected, he/she has often lacked a conceptual framework to work on his suspicion.
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#34 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:10:56 PM
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tycho wrote:
There have been times when religion and science have been one.

Or rather, there have been times when Man has been conscious of this identity.

Or even if one felt, or suspected, he/she has often lacked a conceptual framework to work on his suspicion.


That begs the question,was there a time we were cosmically aware.One with everything and how does that define our identity?
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tycho
#35 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:15:49 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Can time be described as also a measurement of change in the state of energy?


Yes. Space and time are also conceptual frame works as shown by Kant.

But time, in itself, is energy.
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#36 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:28:13 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Can time be described as also a measurement of change in the state of energy?


Yes. Space and time are also conceptual frame works as shown by Kant.

But time, in itself, is energy.


Interesting,how?
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tycho
#37 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:35:10 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
There have been times when religion and science have been one.

Or rather, there have been times when Man has been conscious of this identity.

Or even if one felt, or suspected, he/she has often lacked a conceptual framework to work on his suspicion.


That begs the question,was there a time we were cosmically aware.One with everything and how does that define our identity?


Yes. There have been such times that man has been aware of this identity.

But the information given is often mythical, like the garden of Eden, or Heaven.

Of course if the sense of identity is lost, then everything is misplaced and misunderstood, and the laws of ultimate being are broken.

So there's crisis everywhere.
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#38 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:39:19 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
There have been times when religion and science have been one.

Or rather, there have been times when Man has been conscious of this identity.

Or even if one felt, or suspected, he/she has often lacked a conceptual framework to work on his suspicion.


That begs the question,was there a time we were cosmically aware.One with everything and how does that define our identity?


Yes. There have been such times that man has been aware of this identity.

But the information given is often mythical, like the garden of Eden, or Heaven.

Of course if the sense of identity is lost, then everything is misplaced and misunderstood, and the laws of ultimate being are broken.

So there's crisis everywhere.

Applause Applause Applause

The problem with all that knowledge being passed down is that we haven't been given the keys to deciphering them. But then again I can't complain,if they understood it,means we can. What do you think is the identity of man?
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tycho
#39 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:46:54 PM
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Man God.
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#40 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:51:05 PM
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Just the answer I wanted to hear. Go on
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