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Why is Africa poor in general compared to the West?
ChessMaster
#61 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:21:49 PM
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Pick n Pay wrote:
1-Because Africans have low IQs

2-Because the abuse Africans went through during colonialism made them worship the white man.

3-Because it is profitable for the white man to keep Africans poor. Laws of economics; for there to be wealth, there must be the wretched of the earth to be exploited.

I could go on forever..


Its not about IQ.We have brilliant minds in Africa. We can't keep blaming colonialism.Even the whites colonized each other or were oppressive with each other. We allow ourselves to be oppressed but a few leaders will gain while the people suffer. That is our fault.

@tycho - The perception exists but is not necessary for our survival. We can shed our oppressive perception and embrace either competition or a mutual relationship. Its about redefining our reality going forward.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#62 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:45:41 PM
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@ChessMaster, here are some bits of evidence to show that we embrace oppressive perceptions for our survival.

1. Normally, questioning of authority is met with punishment, at all levels of this world culture.

2. The introduction of African nation state included oppressive measures like taxation in colonial currency, failure to which resulted in punishment.

3. This approach facilitated slavery and slave trade.

Picture the South African miners who died recently under a hail of bullets.

mkeiyd
#63 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:47:56 PM
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Pick n Pay wrote:
1-Because Africans have low IQs

2-Because the abuse Africans went through during colonialism made them worship the white man.

3-Because it is profitable for the white man to keep Africans poor. Laws of economics; for there to be wealth, there must be the wretched of the earth to be exploited.

I could go on forever..


I totally disagree.
What is the total of African exports in USD? How about imports?
How many cars,airplanes,smartphones,luxury items did Africa import?

It is not in the interest of any one for Africa to be poor. A poor Africa helps no one. We don't produce much,we don't consume much. Why would we be good for the mzungu? Idiotic!

We, and i must majority of us Africans,have poor judgement,even the learned professors suffer the same. In a suit,driving a top drawer Range Rover, yet can't obey a simple "Do not enter junction,until exit is clear" traffic sign. A snarl up ensues thanks to a whole professor. Where's thinking? What thinking?!? Nktest!

We are not big thinkers.
In fact, we are very PETTY.
We are here in an election year, singing about "tukutane kwa debe" "Kenyans will decide" digging our own graves in the name of making a point.
A point nobody will take note of, and when things will be thick as they are in Zimbabwe, we'll be blaming mzungu for all our mess.
People should think beyond their noses. Sad as it is, overwhelming majority don't think.Good at academics but morons in thinking.
As i said, SHIDA YA AFRICA NI UJINGA MWINGI.
ChessMaster
#64 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:48:21 PM
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tycho wrote:
@ChessMaster, here are some bits of evidence to show that we embrace oppressive perceptions for our survival.

1. Normally, questioning of authority is met with punishment, at all levels of this world culture.

2. The introduction of African nation state included oppressive measures like taxation in colonial currency, failure to which resulted in punishment.

3. This approach facilitated slavery and slave trade.

Picture the South African miners who died recently under a hail of bullets.



If they died and they were still being oppressed,it beats the purpose of survival.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
mkeiyd
#65 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:52:20 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:

Its not about IQ.We have brilliant minds in Africa. We can't keep blaming colonialism. We allow ourselves to be oppressed but a few leaders will gain while the people suffer. That is our fault.


Only a stupid person allows themselves to be oppressed. They steal [our leaders] from us, we sing praises for them. we even contemplate throwing the future away for them. Akili kutotumika.
There can never be any other reason.
Not now,not ever.
ChessMaster
#66 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:58:56 PM
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mkeiyd wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:

Its not about IQ.We have brilliant minds in Africa. We can't keep blaming colonialism. We allow ourselves to be oppressed but a few leaders will gain while the people suffer. That is our fault.


Only a stupid person allows themselves to be oppressed. They steal [our leaders] from us, we sing praises for them. we even contemplate throwing the future away for them. Akili kutotumika.
There can never be any other reason.
Not now,not ever.


But the common man doesn't know if and how the leaders are stealing. S/he doesn't know if they are being oppressed because that's what they have been raised up to expect. Its not stupidity if you don't know. Knowing and not doing something about it,there I'd agree with you.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#67 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:43:51 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
@ChessMaster, here are some bits of evidence to show that we embrace oppressive perceptions for our survival.

1. Normally, questioning of authority is met with punishment, at all levels of this world culture.

2. The introduction of African nation state included oppressive measures like taxation in colonial currency, failure to which resulted in punishment.

3. This approach facilitated slavery and slave trade.

Picture the South African miners who died recently under a hail of bullets.



If they died and they were still being oppressed,it beats the purpose of survival.


A samurai would accept death in case of dishonor.

But another person can accept oppression today for the sake of a better future.

If you accept slavery today, who knows, you may end up free tomorrow!
Pick n Pay
#68 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:50:36 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Pick n Pay wrote:
1-Because Africans have low IQs

2-Because the abuse Africans went through during colonialism made them worship the white man.

3-Because it is profitable for the white man to keep Africans poor. Laws of economics; for there to be wealth, there must be the wretched of the earth to be exploited.

I could go on forever..


Its not about IQ.We have brilliant minds in Africa. We can't keep blaming colonialism.Even the whites colonized each other or were oppressive with each other. We allow ourselves to be oppressed but a few leaders will gain while the people suffer. That is our fault.

@tycho - The perception exists but is not necessary for our survival. We can shed our oppressive perception and embrace either competition or a mutual relationship. Its about redefining our reality going forward.


We have low IQs but have some of the world biggest penis sizes http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=4923
Greed is fear.
ChessMaster
#69 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:06:02 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
@ChessMaster, here are some bits of evidence to show that we embrace oppressive perceptions for our survival.

1. Normally, questioning of authority is met with punishment, at all levels of this world culture.

2. The introduction of African nation state included oppressive measures like taxation in colonial currency, failure to which resulted in punishment.

3. This approach facilitated slavery and slave trade.

Picture the South African miners who died recently under a hail of bullets.



If they died and they were still being oppressed,it beats the purpose of survival.


A samurai would accept death in case of dishonor.

But another person can accept oppression today for the sake of a better future.

If you accept slavery today, who knows, you may end up free tomorrow!


Can you accept oppression and not accept slavery?But I see your point acting in manner that assures a higher success of survival.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
ChessMaster
#70 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:11:41 PM
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Pick n Pay wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
[quote=Pick n Pay]1-Because Africans have low IQs

2-Because the abuse Africans went through during colonialism made them worship the white man.

3-Because it is profitable for the white man to keep Africans poor. Laws of economics; for there to be wealth, there must be the wretched of the earth to be exploited.

I could go on forever..


Its not about IQ.We have brilliant minds in Africa. We can't keep blaming colonialism.Even the whites colonized each other or were oppressive with each other. We allow ourselves to be oppressed but a few leaders will gain while the people suffer. That is our fault.

@tycho - The perception exists but is not necessary for our survival. We can shed our oppressive perception and embrace either competition or a mutual relationship. Its about redefining our reality going forward.


We have low IQs but have some of the world biggest penis sizes http://www.targetmap.com...ewer.aspx?reportId=4923[/quote]

I think now we're digressing.Lets remove the size part too many loopholes.The eurozone is one of the highest IQs,how come they have a crisis?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#71 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:41:36 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
@ChessMaster, here are some bits of evidence to show that we embrace oppressive perceptions for our survival.

1. Normally, questioning of authority is met with punishment, at all levels of this world culture.

2. The introduction of African nation state included oppressive measures like taxation in colonial currency, failure to which resulted in punishment.

3. This approach facilitated slavery and slave trade.

Picture the South African miners who died recently under a hail of bullets.



If they died and they were still being oppressed,it beats the purpose of survival.


A samurai would accept death in case of dishonor.

But another person can accept oppression today for the sake of a better future.

If you accept slavery today, who knows, you may end up free tomorrow!


Can you accept oppression and not accept slavery?But I see your point acting in manner that assures a higher success of survival.


Yes. The concept of the 'I' can be repressed.
tycho
#72 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:43:25 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Pick n Pay wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
[quote=Pick n Pay]1-Because Africans have low IQs

2-Because the abuse Africans went through during colonialism made them worship the white man.

3-Because it is profitable for the white man to keep Africans poor. Laws of economics; for there to be wealth, there must be the wretched of the earth to be exploited.

I could go on forever..


Its not about IQ.We have brilliant minds in Africa. We can't keep blaming colonialism.Even the whites colonized each other or were oppressive with each other. We allow ourselves to be oppressed but a few leaders will gain while the people suffer. That is our fault.

@tycho - The perception exists but is not necessary for our survival. We can shed our oppressive perception and embrace either competition or a mutual relationship. Its about redefining our reality going forward.


We have low IQs but have some of the world biggest penis sizes http://www.targetmap.com...ewer.aspx?reportId=4923[/quote]

I think now we're digressing.Lets remove the size part too many loopholes.The eurozone is one of the highest IQs,how come they have a crisis?


The I.Q test itself is flawed.

ChessMaster
#73 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:48:02 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
@ChessMaster, here are some bits of evidence to show that we embrace oppressive perceptions for our survival.

1. Normally, questioning of authority is met with punishment, at all levels of this world culture.

2. The introduction of African nation state included oppressive measures like taxation in colonial currency, failure to which resulted in punishment.

3. This approach facilitated slavery and slave trade.

Picture the South African miners who died recently under a hail of bullets.



If they died and they were still being oppressed,it beats the purpose of survival.


A samurai would accept death in case of dishonor.

But another person can accept oppression today for the sake of a better future.

If you accept slavery today, who knows, you may end up free tomorrow!


Can you accept oppression and not accept slavery?But I see your point acting in manner that assures a higher success of survival.


Yes. The concept of the 'I' can be repressed.


If we consciously choose to be in such a state,what would be the way out?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
Pick n Pay
#74 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:02:26 PM
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mkeiyd wrote:
Pick n Pay wrote:
1-Because Africans have low IQs

2-Because the abuse Africans went through during colonialism made them worship the white man.

3-Because it is profitable for the white man to keep Africans poor. Laws of economics; for there to be wealth, there must be the wretched of the earth to be exploited.

I could go on forever..


I totally disagree.
What is the total of African exports in USD? How about imports?
How many cars,airplanes,smartphones,luxury items did Africa import?

It is not in the interest of any one for Africa to be poor. A poor Africa helps no one. We don't produce much,we don't consume much. Why would we be good for the mzungu? Idiotic!

We, and i must majority of us Africans,have poor judgement,even the learned professors suffer the same. In a suit,driving a top drawer Range Rover, yet can't obey a simple "Do not enter junction,until exit is clear" traffic sign. A snarl up ensues thanks to a whole professor. Where's thinking? What thinking?!? Nktest!

We are not big thinkers.
In fact, we are very PETTY.
We are here in an election year, singing about "tukutane kwa debe" "Kenyans will decide" digging our own graves in the name of making a point.
A point nobody will take note of, and when things will be thick as they are in Zimbabwe, we'll be blaming mzungu for all our mess.
People should think beyond their noses. Sad as it is, overwhelming majority don't think.Good at academics but morons in thinking.
As i said, SHIDA YA AFRICA NI UJINGA MWINGI.



Let me start from where l agree with you. I agree we can be petty. I can point a million examples but lets leave it on that. I agree with you.

I disagree on the other points:

1-The fact that you are importing a luxury car does not make you wealthy or does not mean you are wealthy. It just means you are a consumer.

2-Being a consumer country, that makes your country poor but makes the exporting country wealthy. This is caused by several reasons. Chief among them is that Western countries have been very successful in exporting their cultures around the world. Hence, most people will always demand western goods.

3-That is good for them, bad for the consuming country. Because,industries cannot develop if consumers in a country are demanding foreign goods. Buy local would be a good idea. How about we start producing cars locally?

4-It is in the interest of everyone that Africa remains poor because we are rich in minerals, oil, and we supply a lot of the world's consumable commodities. If our economies improve, our currencies strengthen,these exports will be too expensive. So Africa needs to remain poor.

5-Africa also needs to remain poor considering that poverty is an industry in itself. If we become self sufficient think of how many white people working in international organizations, NGOs etc will end up being jobless.

6-And, the economies of all western countries were built on the built of the backs of slaves and cheap labor of indigenous people. Of course you cannot enslave someone as they used to do in the 18th Century. Most of the slaves in 18th century, after they were freed they ended up under economic enslavement. They remained slaves.We remain, economic slaves. You probably know how much we owe the IMF. World Bank and other foreign governments. Even the Bible says that your creditor owns you.

7-Consider how much multinationals make in Africa compared to how much they pay Africans. Consider how much of that profit gets repatriated while we struggle paying our debt. You probably know issues o tax avoidance, tax evasion, safe havens, and transfer pricing by multinationals.

And as Jesus said, You shall always have the poor among you.
Greed is fear.
ChessMaster
#75 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:16:32 PM
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Pick n Pay wrote:
mkeiyd wrote:
Pick n Pay wrote:
1-Because Africans have low IQs

2-Because the abuse Africans went through during colonialism made them worship the white man.

3-Because it is profitable for the white man to keep Africans poor. Laws of economics; for there to be wealth, there must be the wretched of the earth to be exploited.

I could go on forever..


I totally disagree.
What is the total of African exports in USD? How about imports?
How many cars,airplanes,smartphones,luxury items did Africa import?

It is not in the interest of any one for Africa to be poor. A poor Africa helps no one. We don't produce much,we don't consume much. Why would we be good for the mzungu? Idiotic!

We, and i must majority of us Africans,have poor judgement,even the learned professors suffer the same. In a suit,driving a top drawer Range Rover, yet can't obey a simple "Do not enter junction,until exit is clear" traffic sign. A snarl up ensues thanks to a whole professor. Where's thinking? What thinking?!? Nktest!

We are not big thinkers.
In fact, we are very PETTY.
We are here in an election year, singing about "tukutane kwa debe" "Kenyans will decide" digging our own graves in the name of making a point.
A point nobody will take note of, and when things will be thick as they are in Zimbabwe, we'll be blaming mzungu for all our mess.
People should think beyond their noses. Sad as it is, overwhelming majority don't think.Good at academics but morons in thinking.
As i said, SHIDA YA AFRICA NI UJINGA MWINGI.



Let me start from where l agree with you. I agree we can be petty. I can point a million examples but lets leave it on that. I agree with you.

I disagree on the other points:

1-The fact that you are importing a luxury car does not make you wealthy or does not mean you are wealthy. It just means you are a consumer.

2-Being a consumer country, that makes your country poor but makes the exporting country wealthy. This is caused by several reasons. Chief among them is that Western countries have been very successful in exporting their cultures around the world. Hence, most people will always demand western goods.

3-That is good for them, bad for the consuming country. Because,industries cannot develop if consumers in a country are demanding foreign goods. Buy local would be a good idea. How about we start producing cars locally?

4-It is in the interest of everyone that Africa remains poor because we are rich in minerals, oil, and we supply a lot of the world's consumable commodities. If our economies improve, our currencies strengthen,these exports will be too expensive. So Africa needs to remain poor.

5-Africa also needs to remain poor considering that poverty is an industry in itself. If we become self sufficient think of how many white people working in international organizations, NGOs etc will end up being jobless.

6-And, the economies of all western countries were built on the built of the backs of slaves and cheap labor of indigenous people. Of course you cannot enslave someone as they used to do in the 18th Century. Most of the slaves in 18th century, after they were freed they ended up under economic enslavement. They remained slaves.We remain, economic slaves. You probably know how much we owe the IMF. World Bank and other foreign governments. Even the Bible says that your creditor owns you.

7-Consider how much multinationals make in Africa compared to how much they pay Africans. Consider how much of that profit gets repatriated while we struggle paying our debt. You probably know issues o tax avoidance, tax evasion, safe havens, and transfer pricing by multinationals.

And as Jesus said, You shall always have the poor among you.


There is much truth in your wordsApplause
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
murchr
#76 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:44:13 PM
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Pick n Pay wrote:
mkeiyd wrote:
Pick n Pay wrote:
1-Because Africans have low IQs

2-Because the abuse Africans went through during colonialism made them worship the white man.

3-Because it is profitable for the white man to keep Africans poor. Laws of economics; for there to be wealth, there must be the wretched of the earth to be exploited.

I could go on forever..


I totally disagree.
What is the total of African exports in USD? How about imports?
How many cars,airplanes,smartphones,luxury items did Africa import?

It is not in the interest of any one for Africa to be poor. A poor Africa helps no one. We don't produce much,we don't consume much. Why would we be good for the mzungu? Idiotic!

We, and i must majority of us Africans,have poor judgement,even the learned professors suffer the same. In a suit,driving a top drawer Range Rover, yet can't obey a simple "Do not enter junction,until exit is clear" traffic sign. A snarl up ensues thanks to a whole professor. Where's thinking? What thinking?!? Nktest!

We are not big thinkers.
In fact, we are very PETTY.
We are here in an election year, singing about "tukutane kwa debe" "Kenyans will decide" digging our own graves in the name of making a point.
A point nobody will take note of, and when things will be thick as they are in Zimbabwe, we'll be blaming mzungu for all our mess.
People should think beyond their noses. Sad as it is, overwhelming majority don't think.Good at academics but morons in thinking.
As i said, SHIDA YA AFRICA NI UJINGA MWINGI.



Let me start from where l agree with you. I agree we can be petty. I can point a million examples but lets leave it on that. I agree with you.

I disagree on the other points:

1-The fact that you are importing a luxury car does not make you wealthy or does not mean you are wealthy. It just means you are a consumer.

2-Being a consumer country, that makes your country poor but makes the exporting country wealthy. This is caused by several reasons. Chief among them is that Western countries have been very successful in exporting their cultures around the world. Hence, most people will always demand western goods.

3-That is good for them, bad for the consuming country. Because,industries cannot develop if consumers in a country are demanding foreign goods. Buy local would be a good idea. How about we start producing cars locally?

4-It is in the interest of everyone that Africa remains poor because we are rich in minerals, oil, and we supply a lot of the world's consumable commodities. If our economies improve, our currencies strengthen,these exports will be too expensive. So Africa needs to remain poor.

5-Africa also needs to remain poor considering that poverty is an industry in itself. If we become self sufficient think of how many white people working in international organizations, NGOs etc will end up being jobless.

6-And, the economies of all western countries were built on the built of the backs of slaves and cheap labor of indigenous people. Of course you cannot enslave someone as they used to do in the 18th Century. Most of the slaves in 18th century, after they were freed they ended up under economic enslavement. They remained slaves.We remain, economic slaves. You probably know how much we owe the IMF. World Bank and other foreign governments. Even the Bible says that your creditor owns you.

7-Consider how much multinationals make in Africa compared to how much they pay Africans. Consider how much of that profit gets repatriated while we struggle paying our debt. You probably know issues o tax avoidance, tax evasion, safe havens, and transfer pricing by multinationals.

And as Jesus said, You shall always have the poor among you.



In other words, all systems are skewed to make sure that Africa remains that way. POOR
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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guru267
#77 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:01:13 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Whereas a mzungu suspect wouldn't even dream of public office we have a mweusi suspect who is about to be elected as president freely and fairly!!

Talked about a warped mindset! Sad

Maybe because Mzungu Warlords can never be brought before a court like ICC despite killing hundreds of thousands!


Don't make this political... I'm talking about mzungu suspects vs mweusi suspects!!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Rollout
#78 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:31:59 PM
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@mkeiyd
I agree that poor africa is of no good to anyone, and I know alot of people somehow have bought into the narrative that we're poor because the west want us to remain poor, that is total propaganda spread by those in power.

Africa is poor mainly because of our traditional cultures dated couple of centuries, let me put it in clear term, because of our primitive traditional culture. Those who think we are poor because we're only 50yrs old is wrong, we were poor before the white man came to colonize us. Infact if the Mzungu had not step foot to our shores we would be extinct by now, hunting, gathering, fishing and farming the ancient way wouldn't have supported our population.

Yes, we might want to ignore facts but, where were we when the white man was building ships? Probably dancing naked for the king! As a matter of facts, those who think borrowed culture from the west is to be blame are completely wrong, look at the evidence right infront of you, there are people in our country that are still living and following our traditions, okiek, maasai, they live in unbearable poverty even though they have land and cows!

Our tradition which still influence us to the moment was a tradition full of propaganda and short of accountability, infact the reason why we buy into and elect most of our leadership stem from the fact that most of the people just can't breakaway from the propaganda. I am a Kalenjin, I grew up thinking Kalenjins were a chosen tribe, infact the legend stories passed along from generation to generation rainforces that myth. Every tribe in Africa have some propaganda strategies that has been built into idiology over time. Look at what we are about to do, elect ICC suspects? thats dumb!

Unless move towards adopting a more broad culture, we are going to countinue in povery lane!
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#79 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:54:32 PM
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I didnt bother reading most of the posts. First of all Drunkard, the Chinese built ships long before the whites ever did, and even when the whites eventually built ships, the Chinese ships were ten times bigger, so your whole analogy is a fallacy. Secondly, Africans are poor because they tend to hold the West as the SI unit of what they should or shouldnt do, this kind of mentality will ensure that you are forever controlled thus no room for development. Thirdly, I think that Africans tend to allow outside interests to determine their choices, the fact that you have foreigners circulating press on how Kenya will be doomed if they vote Uhuruto is coercion at its best! You cant preach democracy then turn around and tell people who they can and cannot vote for. But then again, thats how hegemonies come to be, so Africa is just playing into the wider scope of International Relations. Its amazing how people are shouting at the top of their voices the consequences of electing suspects, foreigners too, yet Bush was elected in 04 yet much of the International community considered him a war crimes suspect. The difference is the American people do not let outsiders mold their thinking especially when it comes to who to elect, in Africa on the other hand, you are expected to not have a mind of your own. Vote whoever you want, dont be coerced into voting someone else!! In a perfect world, Peter Kenneth would be President, but I wouldnt use coercion to get votes for him
murchr
#80 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:56:02 PM
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There's nothing wrong with our traditions and cultures and if i may ask, what defines poverty? Am i poor because I dont have a car that I dont need?

Am I poor because my choice of entertainment is dancing naked and not watching some western film?

Imagine if the car infront is always a "mobius"

Imagine if the tea that the world drinks was KETEPA, and coffee KAHAWA no1 (not nestle), imagine if all the clothes we buy and are milled from cotton that we grow, imagine if more research was done on our "miti ni dawa" and we wouldn't have to depend on smithskline beecham for the tembes we take, imagine if our ladies were crazy about kazuri jewelerly and bags the same way they are about Gucci and bla bla...

One day a lady blasted me in nakumatt for asking her why she prefers popcorn from SA than the locally made popcorn Sad If we aint brainwashed, then i dont know...
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