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the deal
#61 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:25:39 PM
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UAP, APA, Heritage (Liberty) and Jubilee are the guys who do Political risk ad lib.
hisah
#62 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:47:42 PM
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SittingPretty wrote:
Someone tell me, while BTAK and CFCI seem to be weathering the Petition storm, CIC does not seem to be replicating! Is there something I dont know????

CIC has rallied from 3.05 to 5.60. That's almost 100% in 4 months. It has rallied the most of all the insurance stocks after pan african, which is being acquired.
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#63 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:00:51 PM
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hisah wrote:
SittingPretty wrote:
Someone tell me, while BTAK and CFCI seem to be weathering the Petition storm, CIC does not seem to be replicating! Is there something I dont know????

CIC has rallied from 3.05 to 5.60. That's almost 100% in 4 months. It has rallied the most of all the insurance stocks after pan african, which is being acquired.



Are the south Africans still buying panAfrica shares from the market? The volumes traded on that counter nowadays are at an all time low.
guru267
#64 Posted : Friday, March 22, 2013 12:14:25 AM
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the deal wrote:
UAP, APA, Heritage (Liberty) and Jubilee are the guys who do Political risk ad lib.


Don't forget Kenya Re!!!
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Deuteronomy 4:16
hisah
#65 Posted : Friday, March 22, 2013 9:58:15 AM
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kazee wrote:
hisah wrote:
SittingPretty wrote:
Someone tell me, while BTAK and CFCI seem to be weathering the Petition storm, CIC does not seem to be replicating! Is there something I dont know????

CIC has rallied from 3.05 to 5.60. That's almost 100% in 4 months. It has rallied the most of all the insurance stocks after pan african, which is being acquired.



Are the south Africans still buying panAfrica shares from the market? The volumes traded on that counter nowadays are at an all time low.

I'm not sure if Sanlam are done with the buying. Thin volumes could mean that the available float is drying up.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mwekez@ji
#66 Posted : Friday, March 22, 2013 11:00:51 AM
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guru267 wrote:
the deal wrote:
UAP, APA, Heritage (Liberty) and Jubilee are the guys who do Political risk ad lib.


Don't forget Kenya Re!!!


... add CIC to that list.

The BIG Q remains, who among all these garnered prime quota of the political risk covers¿
mwekez@ji
#67 Posted : Friday, March 22, 2013 11:16:10 AM
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hisah wrote:
kazee wrote:
hisah wrote:
SittingPretty wrote:
Someone tell me, while BTAK and CFCI seem to be weathering the Petition storm, CIC does not seem to be replicating! Is there something I dont know????

CIC has rallied from 3.05 to 5.60. That's almost 100% in 4 months. It has rallied the most of all the insurance stocks after pan african, which is being acquired.



Are the south Africans still buying panAfrica shares from the market? The volumes traded on that counter nowadays are at an all time low.

I'm not sure if Sanlam are done with the buying. Thin volumes could mean that the available float is drying up.


The last time i read about this, link, sanlam had managed to buy only 5.6% from the market and therefore needed 4.4% more to hit their target. This, together with good valuation of the company, should drive the share towards the sib valuation of KES 75
mwekez@ji
#68 Posted : Friday, March 22, 2013 7:49:46 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
@msimon, calling for your view on the political risk covers vis-à-vis our listed insurance companies

murchr
#69 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:33:46 PM
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So when are the rest releasing their results?
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guru267
#70 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:19:19 AM
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murchr wrote:
So when are the rest releasing their results?


Kenya released last year on 25th April and Jubilee on 4th April!
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zizzi
#71 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:47:13 PM
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murchr wrote:
So when are the rest releasing their results?


I hear 8th for Jubilee...
Ericsson
#72 Posted : Friday, April 05, 2013 6:59:32 AM
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And when is Kenya Re and UAP releasing their full year 2012 results
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#73 Posted : Friday, April 05, 2013 9:29:39 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
And when is Kenya Re and UAP releasing their full year 2012 results


Kenya Re, last week of April.
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#74 Posted : Monday, April 08, 2013 12:27:31 PM
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zizzi wrote:
murchr wrote:
So when are the rest releasing their results?


I hear 8th for Jubilee...


It is 8th today.....Was up all night thinking of the 1:10 bonus Ive become accustomed to.
mwekez@ji
#75 Posted : Tuesday, April 09, 2013 2:07:45 PM
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NSE boosts insurers’ investment portfolios

http://www.businessdailyafrica....6/-/56x0vtz/-/index.html
hisah
#76 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:28:13 AM
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And what is JHL cooking? Past 4th April is bad enough... Are they adopting gok owned firms late reporting behaviour Sad
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#77 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:54:12 AM
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hisah wrote:
And what is JHL cooking? Past 4th April is bad enough... Are they adopting gok owned firms late reporting behaviour Sad


Nowadays I watch these firms in disbelief. Cfci at 12.00!!
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zizzi
#78 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:11:29 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
zizzi wrote:
murchr wrote:
So when are the rest releasing their results?


I hear 8th for Jubilee...


It is 8th today.....Was up all night thinking of the 1:10 bonus Ive become accustomed to.


Sorry dude... I swear Bloomberg changed their reporting date from two days ago
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/JBIC:KN

It was showing 8th
Mucene
#79 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:00:38 AM
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zizzi wrote:
murchr wrote:
So when are the rest releasing their results?


I hear 8th for Jubilee...


Its actually on the 17th of April
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#80 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:20:10 PM
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While you were away,cfci was approaching 13bob.i intend to sell after the rossy 1st half numbers.
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