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On knowledge, wisdom, speech, and action.
ChessMaster
#31 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:53:41 AM
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Joined: 2/23/2009
Posts: 1,626
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Truth is absolute,for if truth is relative even that very argument is relative and becomes void.Relativity is subjective and occurs in context.So that implies truth stands firm beyond subjectivity and context.

Subjectivity is defined by perception and perception by experience,exposure and bias.Perception works on information and information holds no bias.

Knowledge is awareness of truth.Wisdom is acting on truth.Thus wise acts are determined by how one utilizes truth in context. Context is determined by information.Thus to act wisely,one has to get the right information to properly determine the context and then act in accordance to truth.

So how does one determine truth?I do not know.But what I know is one must be first willing to accept that their perception of things is flawed or incomplete.Another question is,how do we determine truth when we experience it relatively?How do you describe the outside of the box when you are trapped in it?How does one explain colour to a blind man or music to the deaf?Don't take me wrongly,my wish was not to be insensitive.



If truth is absolute only, how is communication possible?


Expound
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
2012
#32 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:00:49 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
tycho wrote:
Knowledge is nothing but manipulating the uncertain, that is why it is power, for ends of our desires and imagination.

Wisdom is trying to nourish and preserve and respect the ways of nature.

Speech, is the expression of power; casting a spell on others and things to conform to the desire of our imaginations.

Action, is a step of faith, to consummate our power.

But deep inside, there's coldness, and darkness, hunger, savagery and loneliness gnawing.

Beauty is the promise of healing. The flower, the smile, the melody, the saviour, the other.

Perfection is surrender, deep silence, peace and rest. Being nature itself.



I think you looked at the negative aspect of all. So what if you looked at it innocently and without reading mischief?

Look at it from Mahatma Ghandi 's view as he had all these attributes.

e.g. Knowledge could be just simply be knowledge that makes it easier for you to accomplish tasks and not gullible.

I'm one of those people who still believes in the goodness in humanity.


BBI will solve it
:)
tycho
#33 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:00:24 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
2012 wrote:
tycho wrote:
Knowledge is nothing but manipulating the uncertain, that is why it is power, for ends of our desires and imagination.

Wisdom is trying to nourish and preserve and respect the ways of nature.

Speech, is the expression of power; casting a spell on others and things to conform to the desire of our imaginations.

Action, is a step of faith, to consummate our power.

But deep inside, there's coldness, and darkness, hunger, savagery and loneliness gnawing.

Beauty is the promise of healing. The flower, the smile, the melody, the saviour, the other.

Perfection is surrender, deep silence, peace and rest. Being nature itself.



I think you looked at the negative aspect of all. So what if you looked at it innocently and without reading mischief?

Look at it from Mahatma Ghandi 's view as he had all these attributes.

e.g. Knowledge could be just simply be knowledge that makes it easier for you to accomplish tasks and not gullible.

I'm one of those people who still believes in the goodness in humanity.



The goodness in humanity is a result of Man and God are in a mutual and pleasing relationship.

Apart from that, everything is 'negative'.
tycho
#34 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:15:43 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Truth is absolute,for if truth is relative even that very argument is relative and becomes void.Relativity is subjective and occurs in context.So that implies truth stands firm beyond subjectivity and context.

Subjectivity is defined by perception and perception by experience,exposure and bias.Perception works on information and information holds no bias.

Knowledge is awareness of truth.Wisdom is acting on truth.Thus wise acts are determined by how one utilizes truth in context. Context is determined by information.Thus to act wisely,one has to get the right information to properly determine the context and then act in accordance to truth.

So how does one determine truth?I do not know.But what I know is one must be first willing to accept that their perception of things is flawed or incomplete.Another question is,how do we determine truth when we experience it relatively?How do you describe the outside of the box when you are trapped in it?How does one explain colour to a blind man or music to the deaf?Don't take me wrongly,my wish was not to be insensitive.



If truth is absolute only, how is communication possible?


Expound


Can a symbol have absolute meaning only? If that were so, no one would speak.
ChessMaster
#35 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:29:27 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/23/2009
Posts: 1,626
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Truth is absolute,for if truth is relative even that very argument is relative and becomes void.Relativity is subjective and occurs in context.So that implies truth stands firm beyond subjectivity and context.

Subjectivity is defined by perception and perception by experience,exposure and bias.Perception works on information and information holds no bias.

Knowledge is awareness of truth.Wisdom is acting on truth.Thus wise acts are determined by how one utilizes truth in context. Context is determined by information.Thus to act wisely,one has to get the right information to properly determine the context and then act in accordance to truth.

So how does one determine truth?I do not know.But what I know is one must be first willing to accept that their perception of things is flawed or incomplete.Another question is,how do we determine truth when we experience it relatively?How do you describe the outside of the box when you are trapped in it?How does one explain colour to a blind man or music to the deaf?Don't take me wrongly,my wish was not to be insensitive.



If truth is absolute only, how is communication possible?


Expound


Can a symbol have absolute meaning only? If that were so, no one would speak.


Symbols are representations and references.If we knew the absolute nature of things,we would still communicate in reference to them.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#36 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:34:09 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Truth is absolute,for if truth is relative even that very argument is relative and becomes void.Relativity is subjective and occurs in context.So that implies truth stands firm beyond subjectivity and context.

Subjectivity is defined by perception and perception by experience,exposure and bias.Perception works on information and information holds no bias.

Knowledge is awareness of truth.Wisdom is acting on truth.Thus wise acts are determined by how one utilizes truth in context. Context is determined by information.Thus to act wisely,one has to get the right information to properly determine the context and then act in accordance to truth.

So how does one determine truth?I do not know.But what I know is one must be first willing to accept that their perception of things is flawed or incomplete.Another question is,how do we determine truth when we experience it relatively?How do you describe the outside of the box when you are trapped in it?How does one explain colour to a blind man or music to the deaf?Don't take me wrongly,my wish was not to be insensitive.



If truth is absolute only, how is communication possible?


Expound


Can a symbol have absolute meaning only? If that were so, no one would speak.


Symbols are representations and references.If we knew the absolute nature of things,we would still communicate in reference to them.


Why would people need to communicate under certainty?
ChessMaster
#37 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:44:15 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/23/2009
Posts: 1,626
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Truth is absolute,for if truth is relative even that very argument is relative and becomes void.Relativity is subjective and occurs in context.So that implies truth stands firm beyond subjectivity and context.

Subjectivity is defined by perception and perception by experience,exposure and bias.Perception works on information and information holds no bias.

Knowledge is awareness of truth.Wisdom is acting on truth.Thus wise acts are determined by how one utilizes truth in context. Context is determined by information.Thus to act wisely,one has to get the right information to properly determine the context and then act in accordance to truth.

So how does one determine truth?I do not know.But what I know is one must be first willing to accept that their perception of things is flawed or incomplete.Another question is,how do we determine truth when we experience it relatively?How do you describe the outside of the box when you are trapped in it?How does one explain colour to a blind man or music to the deaf?Don't take me wrongly,my wish was not to be insensitive.



If truth is absolute only, how is communication possible?


Expound


Can a symbol have absolute meaning only? If that were so, no one would speak.


Symbols are representations and references.If we knew the absolute nature of things,we would still communicate in reference to them.


Why would people need to communicate under certainty?


There would be no need but that's impossible in our existence.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#38 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:08:11 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
Therefore symbols imply uncertainty, and communication is the search for certainty.
ChessMaster
#39 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:11:58 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/23/2009
Posts: 1,626
Exactly
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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