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mwekez@ji
#31 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:03:55 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 5/31/2011
Posts: 5,121
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
BTW, Kestrel deals with corporates and high networth clients only, accounts worth KES >0.5M only
500,000/- can't even buy you a room in a SQ is most neighborhoods. Kshs 0.5mn is not what it used to be...


I guess what @mwekezaji meant was that Kestrel does not accomodate wanjiku and her sisters and brothers


ditto @murchr. By setting the floor, they locked out wanjiku and made a clear statement of the kind of client they want.

@mlennyma, karibu senior wangu
earthvoice
#32 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:24:51 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/29/2011
Posts: 257
Aguytrying wrote:
earthvoice wrote:
Ok, say one would like to move their portfolio from one broker to another, say Suntra to CFCFS:
What would the procedure be?
How long does it take?
Are there any charges/costs for such a move?
d'oh!


You will fill some cdsc forms at your current broker/investment bank to facilitate the switch

They will tell you six weeks, but its more like 2 months.

you will be charged around 250-500 bob for moving, from your cdsc cash balance


Thanks mkubwa!
"All intelligent investing is value investing -- acquiring more than you are paying for. You must value the business in order to value the stock." - Charlie Munger.
DtheK
#33 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:14:26 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 2/15/2010
Posts: 167
Location: Kenya
Aguytrying wrote:
maka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Cfc are good. my bankers cheque reflected the next day. pap.
customer care is excellent and responsive.
trading platform is more than you can ask for(except few hiccups- cant log in- very rarely). Im so happy with their service( almost emailed them to tell them)

..advantages of having a bank,with a brokerage arm.lakini hapo juu kuna mtu amezusha juu ya CFCFS


did i also say they charge 1.87 commission, even trades below 100k.

that person didnt even say their problem.


I disagree...
Online system ain't all that if fails a good 30% of the time.
You have to change passwords every 15 days.That's 24 passwords in a year.
In my case the system causes firefox to crash if password is wrong(to me this makes it malware).
They charge up to 5%.I got the statements .
KEEP OFF!
maka
#34 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:24:05 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Aguytrying wrote:
earthvoice wrote:
Ok, say one would like to move their portfolio from one broker to another, say Suntra to CFCFS:
What would the procedure be?
How long does it take?
Are there any charges/costs for such a move?
d'oh!


You will fill some cdsc forms at your current broker/investment bank to facilitate the switch

They will tell you six weeks, but its more like 2 months.

you will be charged around 250-500 bob for moving, from your cdsc cash balance

This is the most frustrating exercise that existed on the face of this earth there is a lso a possibility that you forms might be rejected a couple of times sijui wrong signature,they dont match,you filled it wrongly yet you were assisted by the former brokerage firm employees,it might even take more than the 2 months I believe they just frustrate you so that you give up on shifting
possunt quia posse videntur
earthvoice
#35 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:23:44 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/29/2011
Posts: 257
DtheK wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
maka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Cfc are good. my bankers cheque reflected the next day. pap.
customer care is excellent and responsive.
trading platform is more than you can ask for(except few hiccups- cant log in- very rarely). Im so happy with their service( almost emailed them to tell them)

..advantages of having a bank,with a brokerage arm.lakini hapo juu kuna mtu amezusha juu ya CFCFS


did i also say they charge 1.87 commission, even trades below 100k.

that person didnt even say their problem.


I disagree...
Online system ain't all that if fails a good 30% of the time.
You have to change passwords every 15 days.That's 24 passwords in a year.
In my case the system causes firefox to crash if password is wrong(to me this makes it malware).
They charge up to 5%.I got the statements .
KEEP OFF!


Eish! So for those doing plenty of online trading, that would leave Dyer and Blair as the best option? Haven't heard any complaints about them...
plus @guru recommends them!
"All intelligent investing is value investing -- acquiring more than you are paying for. You must value the business in order to value the stock." - Charlie Munger.
holycow
#36 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:53:43 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/11/2006
Posts: 972
Location: Home
DtheK wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
maka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Cfc are good. my bankers cheque reflected the next day. pap.
customer care is excellent and responsive.
trading platform is more than you can ask for(except few hiccups- cant log in- very rarely). Im so happy with their service( almost emailed them to tell them)

..advantages of having a bank,with a brokerage arm.lakini hapo juu kuna mtu amezusha juu ya CFCFS


did i also say they charge 1.87 commission, even trades below 100k.

that person didnt even say their problem.


I disagree...
Online system ain't all that if fails a good 30% of the time.
You have to change passwords every 15 days.That's 24 passwords in a year.
In my case the system causes firefox to crash if password is wrong(to me this makes it malware).
They charge up to 5%.I got the statements .
KEEP OFF!


The commission is 1.87% as stated.Shame on you Shame on you As for passwords, why 24??? i only use 4 since the system can't allow use of the last 3 passwords.
Aguytrying
#37 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:38:55 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
holycow wrote:
DtheK wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
maka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Cfc are good. my bankers cheque reflected the next day. pap.
customer care is excellent and responsive.
trading platform is more than you can ask for(except few hiccups- cant log in- very rarely). Im so happy with their service( almost emailed them to tell them)

..advantages of having a bank,with a brokerage arm.lakini hapo juu kuna mtu amezusha juu ya CFCFS


did i also say they charge 1.87 commission, even trades below 100k.

that person didnt even say their problem.


I disagree...
Online system ain't all that if fails a good 30% of the time.
You have to change passwords every 15 days.That's 24 passwords in a year.
In my case the system causes firefox to crash if password is wrong(to me this makes it malware).
They charge up to 5%.I got the statements .
KEEP OFF!


The commission is 1.87% as stated.Shame on you Shame on you As for passwords, why 24??? i only use 4 since the system can't allow use of the last 3 passwords.


cfc online platform requires a very good internet connection, with good latency( eg what enables you to stream videos properly). I would say only 5% of the time might it not work when their systems are down. When internet connection is poor it can can be 30% as @dthek has stated, and even when you get in the server will "kick out" a slow connection. Its rarely down. If you email them, they will place your order in minutes in these instances. since i joined 2 yrs ago ive had to email them i think twice and i have traded very many times through the platform.

the password thing can be annoying, but you can use similar ones as stated by @holycow. If you forget, there is a feature that resets and generates a new one sent to your email. If you lock the account, email them. in less than an hour they'll reset you.

Commission is 1.87% I have calculated from the statement myself.


The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mkeiyd
#38 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:01:27 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 3/26/2012
Posts: 1,182
earthvoice wrote:
DtheK wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
maka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Cfc are good. my bankers cheque reflected the next day. pap.
customer care is excellent and responsive.
trading platform is more than you can ask for(except few hiccups- cant log in- very rarely). Im so happy with their service( almost emailed them to tell them)

..advantages of having a bank,with a brokerage arm.lakini hapo juu kuna mtu amezusha juu ya CFCFS


did i also say they charge 1.87 commission, even trades below 100k.

that person didnt even say their problem.


I disagree...
Online system ain't all that if fails a good 30% of the time.
You have to change passwords every 15 days.That's 24 passwords in a year.
In my case the system causes firefox to crash if password is wrong(to me this makes it malware).
They charge up to 5%.I got the statements .
KEEP OFF!


Eish! So for those doing plenty of online trading, that would leave Dyer and Blair as the best option? Haven't heard any complaints about them...
plus @guru recommends them!


I use Dyer and Blair and from experience,their online platform is good. The only issue i have with them is that logging in between 9am and 10am is headache.
VituVingiSana
#39 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:12:25 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,361
Location: Nairobi
mwekez@ji wrote:
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
BTW, Kestrel deals with corporates and high networth clients only, accounts worth KES >0.5M only
500,000/- can't even buy you a room in a SQ is most neighborhoods. Kshs 0.5mn is not what it used to be...


I guess what @mwekezaji meant was that Kestrel does not accomodate wanjiku and her sisters and brothers


ditto @murchr. By setting the floor, they locked out wanjiku and made a clear statement of the kind of client they want.

@mlennyma, karibu senior wangu
Even wanjiku has 500k in assets, if not more! Don't underestimate her. Our (now retired) maid has a 5-bedroom house in the shagz! That's more bedrooms than we had!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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