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StatMeister
#31 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 2:40:51 PM
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ZZE123 wrote:
StatMeister wrote:
Cabin crew & engineers are easily outsourced. Pilots, well they are the identity of any airline, so they stay.

Are the pilots or the cabin crew the identity of KQ? When you fly how many times do you see the pilot? My take is that Cabin crews are the identity since they interact with the customers!


OUTSOURCING


"The airline, 26.7 percent owned by Air France KLM and one of the largest carriers in Africa alongside Ethiopia Airlines, said it would shed 578 employees through voluntary retirement, redundancies and outsourcing of non-core roles"
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StatMeister
#32 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 2:42:51 PM
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Further, if you pump negative 800m in its first half results (remember Eurozone, fuel . . .), you'll be lucky to make any money at all in H1
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Impunity
#33 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 3:12:39 PM
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bkismat wrote:

My head is spinning. If pilots too can be outsourced what then is the business of KQ?


To transport passengers and cargo from point A to point B, not to employ people, even the pilots and that's why we have autopilots.

Older generations aircrafts had 4 cockpit crew; pilot and co-pilot, flight engineer and navigator.
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mkeiyd
#34 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:21:59 PM
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ZZE123 wrote:
The unfair thing about this retrenchment is that Kenyans are losing jobs while KQ continues hiring foreigners to do basic jobs!


Anybody in the know of the positions and locations of these foreigners?
Could it be that they are those manning KQ offices in Bangkok, Hong Kong, West Africa and the like?
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waza
#35 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:34:21 PM
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chicken have now come home to roost- T Nai..kuni

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Magigi
#36 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:42:34 PM
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waza wrote:
chicken have now come home to roost- T Nai..kuni

Rinkd'oh!

How is the send off package like?
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ralp_mutu
#37 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:45:23 PM
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@Magigi si hii kitu its already been discussed here http://wazua.co.ke/forum...20379&p=2#post314864
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bkismat
#38 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:48:11 PM
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Impunity wrote:
bkismat wrote:

My head is spinning. If pilots too can be outsourced what then is the business of KQ?


To transport passengers and cargo from point A to point B, not to employ people, even the pilots and that's why we have autopilots.

Older generations aircrafts had 4 cockpit crew; pilot and co-pilot, flight engineer and navigator.

Dont be stupid. The planes cannot move themselves from point A to B.
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Impunity
#39 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 6:50:02 PM
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bkismat wrote:
Impunity wrote:
bkismat wrote:

My head is spinning. If pilots too can be outsourced what then is the business of KQ?


To transport passengers and cargo from point A to point B, not to employ people, even the pilots and that's why we have autopilots.

Older generations aircrafts had 4 cockpit crew; pilot and co-pilot, flight engineer and navigator.

Dont be stupid. The planes cannot move themselves from point A to B.


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quicksand
#40 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 11:54:40 PM
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Kq pilots are not being outsourced. For now. KALPA has a standing agreement with Kq which prevents this. And also foreign pilots have to convert to a kenyan CPL. But the day is coming ...and soon when KQ will mow down the agreement with KALPA ...its just a matter of time.
Pilots out there are a frustrated lot, with global aviation still being bleak, there are pilots who will do anything to keep flying, keep the hours up and licences current, that means they will take rock bottom wages. This is how management of airlines treat crew. The net is full of sob stories ..BA, Qantas, Ryanair, American Airlines ...etc etc ...Aviation is a rude business. And Naikuni is just getting started. You can take that to the bank.
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