Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 193 Location: nairobi
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mukiha wrote:Um Sayala wrote:Very sad indeed. I watched the old man on TV mummer some incoherent words and i thot he'd get heart attack any time.
I u/stand that section of Syoki has had issues since 2004.poleni sana sana.
True; the issue of Syokimau KAA land being grabbed and sold has been going on for many years. My stand is that if I bought some land and there was doubts about its validity later, I wouldn't build anything on it... I would use it to get a loan to buy another plot elsewhere and build.Some times in life, you cut your losses and move on. It's a sad matter though. Banks will never touch such land; not even with a 7ft pole!
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/5/2007 Posts: 332
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Very sad indeed..am not so sure about the dilligence carried out by the lawyers. Wasn't Ahmednassir in court the other day after his law firm okayed a dealworth $50,000 for sale of land in Mogadishu? he was hard pressed to explain what dilligence(if any) they'd carried out..
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 36
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pole sana .I also lost at Balozi in south B after they claimed that the land was owned by Nssf .Something should be done to steamline the systems in kenya including moulding the govt officers to be geniune and GOD fearing .Corrruption is the cause of all this mess due to issuance of fake titles or two titles for a single property.My neighbour collapsed and died and this was due to corruption in Kenya.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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Its sad especially when you see the victims are my age mates ,leaders of tommorow (as wazee regards us). I believe >90% of the property was through bank loans,mortgage etc and you expect someone to honour the mortgage for the next 15 years without depression,Hypertension etc. To me the victims should start with LSK,have all the lawyers involved arrested and blacklisted,then move to Ardhi house /survey of kenya included and cause trouble to all who issued the deed plans and titles. Mavoko council should not be spared either. Otherwise,I support the KAA move because with the structures on the flight path,this poses a security threat to the planes especially this time of fighting the Al shabab. "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 1,590
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Empty platitudes aside, provided an owner has the following documents: An encumbered search form, valuation report, title deed, planning permission from Mavuko or Nairobi Council, they have a high chance of successfully suing the Government Sehemu ndio nyumba
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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Sure wrote:tuvok wrote:I think from this painful experience, it would be nice if wazuans could start collecting maps of all potentially contentious land. Not sure if it is practical but at this rate, we cannot rely on GoK and associated bodies. Where is Orengo? Or he is part of the problem? Orengo is surely part of this problem.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/14/2010 Posts: 84 Location: Nairobi
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Burning Spear wrote:Its sad especially when you see the victims are my age mates ,leaders of tommorow (as wazee regards us).
I believe >90% of the property was through bank loans,mortgage etc and you expect someone to honour the mortgage for the next 15 years without depression,Hypertension etc.
To me the victims should start with LSK,have all the lawyers involved arrested and blacklisted,then move to Ardhi house /survey of kenya included and cause trouble to all who issued the deed plans and titles. Mavoko council should not be spared either.
Otherwise,I support the KAA move because with the structures on the flight path,this poses a security threat to the planes especially this time of fighting the Al shabab. @Burning Spear, the laywers are not the problem, this thing was well orchestrated. The plots had titles, Min of Lands okayed the deal, Mavoko gave a clean bill, the maps didn't show the plots belonged to KAA infact the plots are physically not inside KAA fence, Surveyors came and said all was OK. Banks that offered loans checked and confirmed the land was genuine before they financed the constructions. Everyone who did due diligence gave the plots a clean bill until early this year when KAA showed up in the scene and these Mlolongo Brothers started making news as conmen that people realized something was a miss. NB: No one in his / her right mind can invest 5, 10, 20M e.t.c putting up a house on a suspicious plot.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 1,491 Location: Nairobi
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Very sad indeed Kenya ni yetu sisi sote
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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some people need to take responsibilty.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/14/2010 Posts: 53 Location: Nairobi
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GGK wrote:jamplu wrote:
There was a time around 2004 KAA had a caveat on the land and its unfortunate the sellers waited for things to cool off then resold the land.
What have seen with the land process in kenya don't even trust the lawyers majority of them won't even bother to get the history of the land.
There is some land around Mlolong/Sabaki that belongs to the government Numerical Systems or something* where exactly is their land??
Numerical Machining complex. Check the report on Athi River land issue that was released recently hi guyz, who has this report?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 608 Location: Ruiru
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Swanky2010 wrote:GGK wrote:jamplu wrote:
There was a time around 2004 KAA had a caveat on the land and its unfortunate the sellers waited for things to cool off then resold the land.
What have seen with the land process in kenya don't even trust the lawyers majority of them won't even bother to get the history of the land.
There is some land around Mlolong/Sabaki that belongs to the government Numerical Systems or something* where exactly is their land??
Numerical Machining complex. Check the report on Athi River land issue that was released recently hi guyz, who has this report? I have it "..I am because we are. "― Ubuntu, Umtu,
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/29/2007 Posts: 948
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GGK wrote:Swanky2010 wrote:GGK wrote:jamplu wrote:
There was a time around 2004 KAA had a caveat on the land and its unfortunate the sellers waited for things to cool off then resold the land.
What have seen with the land process in kenya don't even trust the lawyers majority of them won't even bother to get the history of the land.
There is some land around Mlolong/Sabaki that belongs to the government Numerical Systems or something* where exactly is their land??
Numerical Machining complex. Check the report on Athi River land issue that was released recently hi guyz, who has this report? I have it in wazua spirit....please email it to me. 1wanyuru@gmail.com
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi
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Its really sickening reading people comments on internet sites saying the syokimau people deserved what they got. No person,especially those who got the land after thorough search and built with legit hard earned money. Not all those guys were looking for shortcuts and all the reasons people are using to say they deserved it.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/14/2010 Posts: 53 Location: Nairobi
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GGK, please send to swanky2010n@yahoo.com. Thanks.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2010 Posts: 283 Location: Nairobi
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@GGK could you please share it. sales[at]propertyzote[dot]com www.propertyzote.com the ultimate ‘one stop online shop’ of choice connecting more people with more properties at the click of a button
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/14/2010 Posts: 84 Location: Nairobi
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@GGK, please send to odipo25@gmail.com
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/9/2010 Posts: 894 Location: Nairobi
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GGK wrote:Swanky2010 wrote:GGK wrote:jamplu wrote:
There was a time around 2004 KAA had a caveat on the land and its unfortunate the sellers waited for things to cool off then resold the land.
What have seen with the land process in kenya don't even trust the lawyers majority of them won't even bother to get the history of the land.
There is some land around Mlolong/Sabaki that belongs to the government Numerical Systems or something* where exactly is their land??
Numerical Machining complex. Check the report on Athi River land issue that was released recently hi guyz, who has this report? I have it @GGK, weka link or send the report to twazua@gmail.comDon't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/9/2010 Posts: 894 Location: Nairobi
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alma, bwenyenye, FancyFace, githundi, Guest (31), mchuuzi, mkonomtupu, Mr.Wambui, Swanky2010, Tommy, www.eastafricanized.com, Zakumi. Hawa wote. For sure this is a matter for concern Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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No one deserves the kind of treatment guys at syokimau got. It is really really sad and shows a serious lack of any goodwill from gov't. why not arrest the gov't officials who gave out titles, deed plans, certificates or otherwise made the deals look legit? Why would any investor ever invest in Kenya again when it is clear that such shenanigans can be carried out by gov't officials? I cannot say enough what a sad day that was. Young Kenyans swindled off their sweat by conniving lands and municipal officials. I would probably be on the side of getting rid of every building that is on land reserves but in this case, Kenyans were assured the land was legit. So where is land in Kenya that is legit? Or do we wait for our parents to die before we inherit land? Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/9/2007 Posts: 420 Location: Nairobi
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my heart bleeds.... here does one start...... Hawa ni mashaitani ama nini ama syokimau ni hell on earth? so do we wait for Wilson Airport next?
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