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Mtu Biz
#31 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:07:33 AM
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@YesuWangu

and the verses they pick that supposedly support their claims are quoted grossly out of context...

christians stop outsourcing your spiritual growth... stop the DVD's and books and speaker so and so and man of God so and so .....
KNOW GOD .. he is knowable...

From you straight to him.... no brokers.

Consider this.....

Mathew 23


5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6 they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7 they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.

8 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. 11 The greatest among you will be your servant. 12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.


So stop buying DVDs and books from all manner of gurus....

And stop calling your pastor... sijui PAPA PAPS ..our Daddy etc !!!!!

THE BIBLE IS SUFFICIENT

Sola Scriptura
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kangi
#32 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:15:50 AM
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@MtubizApplause Applause Applause Applause Applause

What u didn't do is finish the entire chapter.U really made my reading this day by reading the entire cahapter.God bless you.Tuna macho na hatusomi.Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
Accept no one's definition of your life; define your life.
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selah
#33 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:51:47 AM
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@Mtu Biz in their defence, the same bible gives them some leeway in exploiting the same gospel to satisfy their material needs.

Quote:
3 This is my defense to those who sit in judgment on me. 4 Don’t we have the right to food and drink? 5 Don’t we have the right to take a believing wife along with us, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas[a]? 6 Or is it only I and Barnabas who lack the right to not work for a living?

7 Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat its grapes? Who tends a flock and does not drink the milk? 8 Do I say this merely on human authority? Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? 9 For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.”[b] Is it about oxen that God is concerned? 10 Surely he says this for us, doesn’t he? Yes, this was written for us, because whoever plows and threshes should be able to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest. 11 If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you? 12 If others have this right of support from you, shouldn’t we have it all the more? 1Cor 9:3-12
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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McReggae
#34 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:55:14 AM
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pikshas ziko wapi???
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Wendz
#35 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:59:03 AM
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McReggae wrote:
pikshas ziko wapi???


am also waiting.... its an anti-climax to finish the whole thread only to realise you cant relate the stories to what's being referred to.... wekeni link jameni...
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miser
#36 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:10:51 AM
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Twangoja kuziona baraka(the palatial house) na sisi wafuasi watoao sadaka twalala jaa kwa mitaro(hovels)! Mungu asifiwe?
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selah
#37 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:17:50 AM
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I have posted the pictures on page One Unless their is a problem somewhere.Lemmi try again check them here below.











If You cant see them then there is a problem with my browser.
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Lolest!
#38 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:20:36 AM
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@ selah, I don't think the part you quoted justifies opulence. It is only fair that the church supports the servants who work in the church.They should not be begging but should be salaried.
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
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Elder
#39 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:24:44 AM
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This?

Or this?
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Much Know
#40 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:25:40 AM
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Selah, the process for posting a picture is very very complicated, i think you are "copy pasting", it wont work, you need to hire a consultant to post a pic on wazua.
Ras Kienyeji Man
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