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dunkang
#61 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 8:57:45 PM
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For Sport
#62 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 9:09:26 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Im doing this also for my own good, tend to get hazy when not written down. Co-op at 16.00-but with question marks??, kengen at 13.65, mumias 7.00. Hfck 23.50. Cfcih at 14.00, centum at 22.75 strictly for dividend play. Does the word spoilt for choice come to mind?

Today:
Coop at 14.25, MSC at 6.30, HFCK at 18.85, Centum at 17.45 and CFCih at 11.

QW25071985
#63 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 9:46:08 PM
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We know banks wount shine this year. But my question is what this 'poor' performance has already bn factored in. Which i believe it has.
Its absurd to wait for lower prices. As for kengen en mumias fans the way the price is behaving yet we are nearing results itsnt encouraging. I can wait for lower prices for these two. Thats for sure.
QW25071985
#64 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 9:49:40 PM
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For Sport wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Im doing this also for my own good, tend to get hazy when not written down. Co-op at 16.00-but with question marks??, kengen at 13.65, mumias 7.00. Hfck 23.50. Cfcih at 14.00, centum at 22.75 strictly for dividend play. Does the word spoilt for choice come to mind?

Today:
Coop at 14.25, MSC at 6.30, HFCK at 18.85, Centum at 17.45 and CFCih at 11.



@aguytrying. Technically ur price targets are wrong. The moves are just to small to even trade, lol.
holycow
#65 Posted : Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:09:52 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Im doing this also for my own good, tend to get hazy when not written down. Co-op at 16.00-but with question marks??, kengen at 13.65, mumias 7.00. Hfck 23.50. Cfcih at 14.00, centum at 22.75 strictly for dividend play. Does the word spoilt for choice come to mind?


Hope you had an eraser and revised your written down figures as appropriate.
sparkly
#66 Posted : Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04:21 AM
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Genghis Khan wrote:
Ok. But I still hold my view that there are less risks and better returns elsewhere... AK is too much of a gamble... the data market is not unlimited... there are much bigger players in the field and the deck is stacked against AK.

The higher the risk the higher the return.
Access hit a huge bump when they invested in fibre which was too much of a capital investment. They were also distracted by board room wars.
Was the investment necessary? Absolutely. If they didn't, they would be history by now.
Is Access a better company than 3 years ago, when they were trading at 35? Yes, they were relying on expensive satellite connections. Fibre is much cheaper and they can capture many more customers on a lower cost base.
Will Access recover from their poor perfomance? Yes, their cashflows are still weak and their management talks too much, but Access is not in the same boat as eveready.
Bottom line... If someone is going to buy access, he/ she should consider it as part of the speculative portifolio. Speculate only what you can stomach losing.
Life is short. Live passionately.
sparkly
#67 Posted : Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:06:44 AM
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Genghis Khan wrote:
Ok. But I still hold my view that there are less risks and better returns elsewhere... AK is too much of a gamble... the data market is not unlimited... there are much bigger players in the field and the deck is stacked against AK.

The higher the risk the higher the return.
Access hit a huge bump when they invested in fibre which was too much of a capital investment. They were also distracted by board room wars.
Was the investment necessary? Absolutely. If they didn't, they would be history by now.
Is Access a better company than 3 years ago, when they were trading at 35? Yes, they were relying on expensive satellite connections. Fibre is much cheaper and they can capture many more customers on a lower cost base.
Will Access recover from their poor perfomance? Yes, their cashflows are still weak and their management talks too much, but Access is not in the same boat as eveready.
Bottom line... If someone is going to buy access, he/ she should consider it as part of the speculative portifolio. Speculate only what you can stomach losing.
Life is short. Live passionately.
law6
#68 Posted : Sunday, August 21, 2011 5:38:03 PM
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The qstn on which shares to invest in, is good one, but the answers given indicate more need to be done to be able to understand the market. The comparison done by wazuans between different stocks is based on what the company has done (or what we belive it has done). The analysis done should be based on giving meaning to numbers, understanding numbers like The market cap of a coy which is the total value of a company. The value is derived by multiplying the current share price by the total number of shares.
Generally, if a company has a low market cap, any one person has greater influence over the share price, therefore the price will exhibit more volatility. For example, if you sell 100,000 shares worth Ksh 1 each, in a company that has 1,000,000 shares, your trade will mean that 10% of all traded share will be exchanged (if you are willing to sell at the market price, this will cause the share price to fall and therefore the market cap).

Price/Earning Ratio (or "PE Multiple")

This is the king of value measurements. The price/earning ratios is derived by the current Share Price divide by Earnings Per Share. Think of PE as the amount of years required to pay off an investment. For example, if a stock has a PE of 10, this means that it will take 10 years for you to make before you get back your capital invested.

This number is generally between 10-20, although newer companies, especially in technology sector, can have much higher PE ratios.

So what is a good PE? Is 10 better than 20? You'd think that taking 10 years to get a return on investment is better than 20 years, however this isn't the whole story. Shares are all about the "future", future earnings, future projections and so a stock that has a high PE usually means it has better growth prospects that ones than ones that have lower PEs.

A stocks future P/E is called its forward P/E.

Lets try and make sense of number before we judge a stock.
sparkly
#69 Posted : Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:24:21 PM
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@law6 nice explanation of the PE.

You have just scratched the surface since PE should not be looked at in isolation. A company with high PE could mean it is grossly overvalued or it has very good prospects.

A blue chip with a low PE is a good buy while a company with deteroriating fundamentals may look attractively priced on historical PE basis.

Some companies have perpetually low PEs and might leave you in a 'value trap'.
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Kabird
#70 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 4:33:39 PM
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KBC, KPLC
chemos
#71 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 4:38:06 PM
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Kabird wrote:
KBC, KPLC



huyu ndio nani?
QW25081985
#72 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 5:25:47 PM
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ktn , citizen, bibilia husema fm !!!!!!!
Aguytrying
#73 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 9:33:02 PM
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QW25071985 wrote:
For Sport wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Im doing this also for my own good, tend to get hazy when not written down. Co-op at 16.00-but with question marks??, kengen at 13.65, mumias 7.00. Hfck 23.50. Cfcih at 14.00, centum at 22.75 strictly for dividend play. Does the word spoilt for choice come to mind?

Today:
Coop at 14.25, MSC at 6.30, HFCK at 18.85, Centum at 17.45 and CFCih at 11.



@aguytrying. Technically ur price targets are wrong. The moves are just to small to even trade, lol.


All bets went off when the bear came in, i thought that was implied.
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#74 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 9:42:56 PM
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chemos wrote:
Kabird wrote:
KBC, KPLC



huyu ndio nani?

@theDeal et al. With an interim of 35 cts for KPLC, or KP if you like it, do/can we expect at least 80cts in the finals! and when?
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
QW25081985
#75 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 9:45:05 PM
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kplc price is agreeing so much with the dividend and final results . its making me laugh !!!!!!!
the deal
#76 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 10:01:45 PM
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jerry wrote:
chemos wrote:
Kabird wrote:
KBC, KPLC



huyu ndio nani?

@theDeal et al. With an interim of 35 cts for KPLC, or KP if you like it, do/can we expect at least 80cts in the finals! and when?

Well the lack of excitement & delay in release of results is a bad sign I expect a 10-15% increase in PAT but watch out for costs I.e rebranding exercise...increase in staff costs...production costs...etc...overall KP is a utility with great potential but its inefficient
mlennyma
#77 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 10:16:54 PM
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Very inefficient indeed even in compiling results..
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
the deal
#78 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:11:02 PM
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the deal wrote:
jerry wrote:
chemos wrote:
Kabird wrote:
KBC, KPLC



huyu ndio nani?

@theDeal et al. With an interim of 35 cts for KPLC, or KP if you like it, do/can we expect at least 80cts in the finals! and when?

Well the lack of excitement & delay in release of results is a bad sign I expect a 10-15% increase in PAT but watch out for costs I.e rebranding exercise...increase in staff costs...production costs...etc...overall KP is a utility with great potential but its inefficient

Lol I was spot on...once again!!!
Realtreaty
#79 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:59:10 PM
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Sad Eveready, sameer, kk, acess kenya, K-Re, mumias, @ low price you get a bulk and since they might offer bonuses soon or latter you will have all. OK Mumias has a dividend ongoing and will be one of best to have from 2012Drool Drool
QW25071985 wrote:
@ impunity. Lolest Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
i feel ur pain . Lol.

QW25081985
#80 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:35:18 PM
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my thinking is that if you arent buying now atleast in small bits you are sure to miss allot ...
but remember since we are now at year's end if santa clause rally doesnt come 2012 will just be lik this year...! thats for sure ...
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