@ bwanyenye,most parents on this thread have expressed solidarity with @ Otieno. but does this mean that no kid out there is safe because employers do not take their househelps to be tested?........Kenyalyrics also makes good arguments that the mode of transmission of HIV is very clear....lets remember that we have a responsibility to stop all other misconceptions....so what should be the correct response?

Get househelps tested and for that matter,anybody who is taking care of a young one?

@ tebes,let the parents answer! :)i think it is a good discussion

Hapa naona shinda tupu

@otienpapa... what will ever make you not stumble on future house helps' handbags??? You are a finished man I tell you, coz from thence onwards, you will forever live suspecting them of HIV and other imaginary things... wewe kwisha coz at the end of the day your wife may have to leave her job to take care of you kids...

@all... am trying to imagine how many handbags have been "stumbled upon' since this thread was posted... and probably worse things discovered...which will lead to otienopapa's situation as stated above...

Can someone tell me how HIV+ parents bring up their kids?? Do they touch them, or hug them, or serve them food? Or do they leave them to HIV- housegirls??

the point.... lets learn to live with other people positively. The key words here should be taking DUE CARE. I am not sure that dismissing someone because of HIV status without trying anything else is due care. it is very UN-GODLY to say the least!!


And remember DUE DILIGENCE at hiring time too.

@ jguru, Um Sayala, bwenyenye, Tebes point on….@2012 I did not let her know…. When it comes to bringing up children, every parent has a moral obligation to do what they feel is best for them. As rightly pointed out, the youngsters here will recognize the intricacy of parenthood when they get there. For now they can quote as many legal rules….cap that and that etc…..HIV is not transmitted by sharing brushes….open wounds…cuts…..and also can ignore all other manner of things experimented on our children by these girls; this is a rotten world as MaichBlack puts it, and its not just house helps, as parent we should always be keen on the people our children spends times with be it a gardener, driver etc……Hope the likes of KenyanLyrics….when they get children, these kind of things will never bother them coz they know the law and are better informed on matters medical unlike many of us. For those who are parents already, they know better. @sungura2005 I never knew pple can be this dense!!!!! yawa!

you are hiding behind the argument that none of us are parents, when that is not the primary issue here. Regardless of whether you are a parent or not, the facts about HIV transmission are very clear, and have been drummed away so repetitively in the recent past that all Wazuans can recite the transmission methods by heart. However, despite the clear presence of these facts, you have decided to abandon logic and terminate somebody's employment based on a flimsy 'what if' argument.

One of my guiding principles in life is to do unto others as you would like them to do to you. The best way of analysing this situation is to reverse it. If you were the one who was a houseboy on ARVs, would you deem it fair if your employer were to fire you based on your HIV status?