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KenolKobil, KPLC or KCB?
mwanahisa
#61 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 5:04:45 PM
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I daresay I expect 22 to be the resistance level. At any rate that's what I hope having bought a huge chunk today at that price. I also added to my holdings in Equity Bank at 27.50. Tomorrow, I will buy more if I can get them below the 27.50 mark. Then, I will wait!
mwanahisa
#62 Posted : Friday, February 04, 2011 2:49:17 PM
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KCB has indeed resisted going below (or even back to) 22 today. As for Equity Bank, I should just have filled my entire order at 27.50, seeing that it has not gone down below yesterday's level of 27.50. Nonetheless, I got a decent lot @27.50, so I can't complain. I will now angle for some CoopBank @ 20 - 20.25, although the counter has been rather stuck at that level, for a while now.
Aguytrying
#63 Posted : Saturday, February 05, 2011 6:54:02 PM
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There is a danger of buying too much kk, because its a penny stock. Whenever i have some tu coins i find myself topping up my kk holding. Oh yeah and its stayed below ten bob, hence im even more likely to buy it. Its still cheap, some of my other potential add ons have gone up.
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VituVingiSana
#64 Posted : Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:02:36 PM
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Only reason it is considered a 'penny stock' is coz of the split otherwise it would be much higher [at 10% of the shares outstanding]...

IMHO... all said & done... It will do very well for me! If I had the cash... I would buy the entire firm out!
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Ericsson
#65 Posted : Sunday, February 06, 2011 1:37:20 AM
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KK will not produce spectacular profits in the coming years/NOCK is really eating into their market share.Cas in point at Murang'a Rd whereby the Kobil petrolstation is normally empty while Oil Libya and NOCk are full with vehicles queueing to buy fuel.
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VituVingiSana
#66 Posted : Sunday, February 06, 2011 3:39:35 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
KK will not produce spectacular profits in the coming years/NOCK is really eating into their market share.Cas in point at Murang'a Rd whereby the Kobil petrolstation is normally empty while Oil Libya and NOCk are full with vehicles queueing to buy fuel.
Well, let's wait & see... pity NOCK & OilLibya doesn't publish their results!
BTW, NOCK is favored by GoK e.g. 30% OTS imports even though they are PRICIER. See the last diesel load they imported under OTS... the corrupt [someone got a cut] bastards came in more expensive than the other importers!
Don't forget that NOCK is subsidized by GoK to benefit a few. They get cheap/free capital from GoK aka our taxes...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#67 Posted : Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:52:38 AM
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Before the dispute with Energy Regulatory Commission;KK Kobil used to pay the least charges to Kenya Petroleum Refineries and at the pump they were one of the most expensive if not the most expensive fuel dealers.
That is why in theri dispute non of the oil marketers was supporting them
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jerry
#68 Posted : Sunday, February 06, 2011 9:23:31 AM
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KPLC @23 or KCB @22? Which has more value?
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#69 Posted : Sunday, February 06, 2011 10:12:05 AM
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define value-net asset value or potential for share price to go up? i would use the later and on that score KCB has my vote.
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#70 Posted : Sunday, February 06, 2011 5:07:40 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
define value-net asset value or potential for share price to go up? i would use the later and on that score KCB has my vote.

Why would KPLC not gain your vote?
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invest0r
#71 Posted : Sunday, February 06, 2011 7:49:56 PM
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KCB is currently trading at a great discount. Its forward PE ratio is less than 8. Soon, we will see a major reprice of the share
VituVingiSana
#72 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 1:28:53 AM
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I am waiting for 26 Feb [or close to that date] when KPLC is expected to announce 1H 2010-11 Results... I expect 30-40% higher PAT [which should negate the dilution in EPS after the Rights]
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nahdy
#73 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 10:34:29 AM
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PKoli
#74 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 10:49:47 AM
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invest0r wrote:
KCB is currently trading at a great discount. Its forward PE ratio is less than 8. Soon, we will see a major reprice of the share


This is true. KCB has been trading low for a while. This is likely to change with FY results.
guru267
#75 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 11:02:36 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
I expect 30-40% higher PAT


@VVS this is rather optimistic
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VituVingiSana
#76 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 11:10:07 AM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I expect 30-40% higher PAT


@VVS this is rather optimistic
Not vs 1H 2009-10 [but we have only 2-6 weeks to wait!]
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mwanahisa
#77 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 11:11:02 AM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I expect 30-40% higher PAT


@VVS this is rather optimistic


I am with g267 on this. If history is any guide, KPLC has only been able to increase profits substantially from changes in tariffs not the gradual increase in customer connections. I am ignoring the period when they were coming back from the dead. My expectation would be between 10% -20% growth in PAT.
mwanahisa
#78 Posted : Wednesday, February 09, 2011 1:37:00 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
I daresay I expect 22 to be the resistance level. At any rate that's what I hope having bought a huge chunk today at that price. I also added to my holdings in Equity Bank at 27.50. Tomorrow, I will buy more if I can get them below the 27.50 mark. Then, I will wait!


Demand has been building up on KCB since the low of 22 last week. Supply is also beginning to retreat to a higher level with trades currently at 22.75. Makes me begin to wonder - Will this be the year for the Lion to roar?
VituVingiSana
#79 Posted : Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:12:34 PM
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I remain optimistic on KPLC... Note I am not saying EPS will be up but PAT [more shares so EPS might suffer a little]...

Anyway, we do not have long to wait since the results will be released between late Feb to late March...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
youcan'tstopusnow
#80 Posted : Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:05:03 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
Demand has been building up on KCB since the low of 22 last week. Supply is also beginning to retreat to a higher level with trades currently at 22.75. Makes me begin to wonder - Will this be the year for the Lion to roar?

I think so. They had a lot of momentum as the year drew to a close and they will carry that into 2011. Will they keep the dividend at 1 bob?
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