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KIBAKI MUST GO!!!
Mali
#31 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:12:00 PM
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but he just come back? I mean,he just flew back.........

if the incompetent and the reckless compete,the result is a disaster.. MN
adept
#32 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:37:00 PM
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Really hope the youth will not disappoint again in 2012. I fully support the drive for & enactment of a new constitution. But I think its impact is over-rated. We must tone down our expectations.

I have a feeling that Kenyans will be much more disappointed than they were after NARC's 2002 victory once the excitement fades away and reality checks in. It will be very similar to what we experienced once there was no longer a Moi-figure to blame all our problems on. We'll need a new 'high'...

One of our biggest drawbacks is a lack of respect for the law...and it is happening under the old constitution...and will continue under the new constitution... unless we learn to enforce the letter and spirit of the law & change the way we do our politics

But that said,a new constitution will be an important step forward for Kenya as a growing democracy...
caesar
#33 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2009 6:58:00 PM
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@ Adept

Karua could have foreseen the making of our constitution. Now she frustrated and forced out. Kibaki,has the same powers Moi had in his 80's this old guy can die any time. Why does he have to gamble the country future to satisfy his hubris.

With all these hand pointed judges how independent is our judiciary?
Obi 1 Kanobi
#34 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:51:00 PM
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@Adept,you disappoint me,and you obviously have a short memory

Kenya has improved significantly post Moi. Granted the gava has not moved an inch but the rest of kenyans have improved.

There are more opportunities albeit for the well off,look around you at the number of private universities keeping money home that used to go overseas.

Move around and see how much the CDF's are doing at the grassroots.

There is more transparency,and while small corruption is still there,the grand theft is now discovered in its early stages.

You say kenyans do not obey the law,I say you are wrong,where the law is clear,most kenyans will follow it.

It is only in ambiguos situations when following the law is fullhardy and down right silly that kenyans like any sane person opt to bend them,a quick example is a traffic cop who offers you an option to give TKK or have your car towed to the cop station (while it can move) from where unclear charges will be leveled against you,and also where any complaints you make will attract no sympathies from their superiors. Why bother following the law when the law itself will not be served by your actions. Just take the short and easier route coz you have no option.

A new constitution will not magically place food on anyone's table (SA has one of the best constitutions in the world but still has its challanges),but for those of us who are willing to work hard and honestly,it will improve our opportunities for a better life.



I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Liv
#35 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2009 5:46:00 AM
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Obi-1,

Well said... though personally I do not bribe... and I tell them (cops) on the face.
Wendz
#36 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:46:00 AM
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@Obi

Well put.

Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.
Mundu-mugo
#37 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:37:00 AM
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This is a song that has no taste and for the shallow minded. And when he goes who comes. Some are are saying the youth are ready for readership. The same youth who are burning their own libraries,their schools and for ever indulging in cheap brew from early morning to late night.I pity Kenyans

muthuri mwanake
The General
#38 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:51:00 AM
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@ obi,spot on.

The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
mlefu
#39 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:32:00 PM
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soo many posts on politics,kibaki this that,raila here there and all that..as Obi puts it..baks really changed the country..as put somewhere else,Kenya Media has played the biggest role in feeding us with cheap politics,the times of Kenyans against corruption..NEWS were everything..they were educative,the times of Michuki road rules..i miss those kind of news since they forced concerned persons to act and i swear Kenya we were headed somewhere..watch the news or read the media today..politics allover even the willing to work leaders dont bother anymore... if i had the guts to organise a steet demo..it wld be against the media..f*** this idiots

muthomi mugi aiikagia maitho kabere...
caesar
#40 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:16:00 PM
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@Mlefu

It is not about our past,it is about our future. Thus I am calling on the Kibaki's of tommorow to step up and take on leadership.

Kenyan's are very resourceful. If Uganda is growing at 6.6%,Tanzania 7.3%,Rwanda 6%,Sudan 8.2%,Ethiopia 10.2%,Kenya 2.8%.

If the benchmark is other countries around us then Kibaki is a total mess. We could be doing better. These guys in power are so stingy that they cannot believe that they are the reason why we do not have progress.

Allow reforms and let the future take care of the future. The media is a friend of the people. All our intelligent youth are either in the Media,NGO's,or universities. They are locked out of political power because they do not have money to campaign.

People with great Ideals like Lumumba,others with conscience like Githongo,others with courage like Maina Kiai,Mwalimu Mati,Okolloh...

Give these people real power,and see the giant leaps we Kenya will make...
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