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callaspade
#31 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 8:06:08 AM
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....just sack Ayimba and replace Omwela,they are both past their sell by dates !
Obi 1 Kanobi
#32 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 8:43:08 AM
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callaspade wrote:
....just sack Ayimba and replace Omwela,they are both past their sell by dates !


Are you sure about the sack Ayimba bit, Kenya was nothing in sevens without Benja, I have known Benja since form 1 and no one loves the rugby game more. Who would you like to see replace Benja

The truth is after our success 2 years ago, every team started taking us seriously and the element of surprise that we used to have was gone. You will notice that the rich nations (England, New Zealand, SA, Aus) now take the 7's version more seriously, they put in more resources and the results is that the traditional powerhouses (fiji, Tonga,Samoa and Argentina) that used to rely more on talent now struggle to go past the semi finals.

So unless Kenya puts in more resources we should be happy to remain in the second ranks. We still draw the largest and most boisterous crowds.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
masukuma
#33 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 9:42:44 AM
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[Obi 1 Kanobi] avandu va musingu!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
mukoya
#34 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 7:43:43 PM
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i support masukuma beaten or not its the same breath as saying spain beat harambee stars or barca beat kenya new zealand are fully pro meaning they eat sleep drink rugby while kenya you go to training after hussling lets not pretend we support finacially en see how far they go!
Buster
#35 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 11:33:55 PM
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I watched those games and Ayimba was not at fault. It was the lads, you could see it in their movement. They were just not into it. It was as if the hunger is not there anymore.

Gordon Geko,

A country like Kenya should not be happy with the shield. We are way past that. There are no points awarded for the sheild.
TAZ
#36 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:53:35 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
callaspade wrote:
....just sack Ayimba and replace Omwela,they are both past their sell by dates !


Are you sure about the sack Ayimba bit, Kenya was nothing in sevens without Benja, I have known Benja since form 1 and no one loves the rugby game more. Who would you like to see replace Benja




This is the same problem that's affecting Kenyan football. Just because someone used to play in the national team or likes the game doesn't mean he has the credentials to coach. Benja has been the sevens coach for a while now its about time we appraised the guy. We appreciate what he's contributed to the Sevens team but If he's not performing as a coach now then he has to go.

Why do we keep fielding the same old players every year, we have so many talented young players who have never had the chance to play for the sevens team.
McReggae
#37 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:08:07 AM
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TAZ wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
callaspade wrote:
....just sack Ayimba and replace Omwela,they are both past their sell by dates !


Are you sure about the sack Ayimba bit, Kenya was nothing in sevens without Benja, I have known Benja since form 1 and no one loves the rugby game more. Who would you like to see replace Benja




This is the same problem that's affecting Kenyan football. Just because someone used to play in the national team or likes the game doesn't mean he has the credentials to coach. Benja has been the sevens coach for a while now its about time we appraised the guy. We appreciate what he's contributed to the Sevens team but If he's not performing as a coach now then he has to go.

Why do we keep fielding the same old players every year, we have so many talented young players who have never had the chance to play for the sevens team.


....do you know about one Ben Gollings as far as 7s is concerned???
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
TAZ
#38 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:05:27 AM
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@McReggae.....Players like Ben Gollings and Mikaele Pesamino cannot be compared to our "old" players who can't even run. Gollings is 30 yrs old but still in good shape and fast....he is consistent in all the tournaments. I've attended several 7's tournaments we have had in the country and the level of talent we have is amazing. I just don't understand why we keep selecting the same players. I wasn't surprised to hear the commentators in the Hong Kong series question Ayimba's credentials in team selection. Losing to a team like Russia is unacceptable.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#39 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:00:01 PM
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TAZ wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
callaspade wrote:
....just sack Ayimba and replace Omwela,they are both past their sell by dates !


Are you sure about the sack Ayimba bit, Kenya was nothing in sevens without Benja, I have known Benja since form 1 and no one loves the rugby game more. Who would you like to see replace Benja




This is the same problem that's affecting Kenyan football. Just because someone used to play in the national team or likes the game doesn't mean he has the credentials to coach. Benja has been the sevens coach for a while now its about time we appraised the guy. We appreciate what he's contributed to the Sevens team but If he's not performing as a coach now then he has to go.

Why do we keep fielding the same old players every year, we have so many talented young players who have never had the chance to play for the sevens team.


Which old players are you referring to here, the most experienced players in the Kenya squad include Khayange and Injera, by the way they are not necessarily that old. And who do you propose to replace them with, which worthy players were should be picked who are not in the squad.
The additions in 2010 were Oscar ouma Andrew Amonde and Ambunya, the three are worthy of inclusion in the squad, other youngsters will come in the next year or so especially the current quins brood, but they are not yet there, so relax, we are going through a rough patch but will turn it around eventually.

P.S If you want to get the most out of Rugby, I suggest you never miss the local games, ngong road is accessible, the rugby is great, the beer flows freely and the mama's turn out to impress
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
TAZ
#40 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:29:31 PM
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@Obi...The bottom line is that the current squad is not performing. If you think we don't have any new players who can replace the current squad then Ayimba should be the one to leave because clearly his tactics are just not working at the moment.

Just take a look at the SA and Samoa squads, every season they introduce new effective players. The problem with the Kenyan team is that we never get to see the new additions that have been made to the team....how will they get the experience if we keep fielding the same "Old" players every year. A team like Russia is an emerging force yet they are able dismiss us with such ease.
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