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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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while I was away my diamond almost printed 30.00. next target is equity bank share price before we go for kcb. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,187 Location: nairobi
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@aguy the driver, i was wondering how this has escaped your attention. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,648 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:maka wrote:mlennyma wrote:If we dont see 30 at books close,it will be interesting to see how deep it will sink we wont see 30... we dint see 30... Eish. Hii 30 imengojewa tu sana. Haya basi. Enjoy 30!!! @aguy @maka @guru @mlennyma COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 484,100 ABP 7.45; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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Mukiri wrote: Finally @30 bob bado, pengine leo. Been a long ride and patient wait, swings from 18bob. Still strong in this... Thieves
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,167 Location: Nairobi
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30 bado. The bidders are holding back. And sellers at 29. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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mlennyma wrote:@aguy the driver, i was wondering how this has escaped your attention. I've been waiting for so long, we've all been waiting for so long. we predicted 30.00 for this year and its coming to be. nitakuappoint makanga, u May be promoted to driver like I was. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,648 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:Mukiri wrote:obiero wrote:Aguytrying wrote:obiero wrote:WaHande wrote:could it be a good buy at its current rate??
It is a good buy if you are comfortable with a return not exceeding 10% this year. It definitely cannot go beyond KES 30 before next year. I said the same in Q1 this year and some people tried to shut me up @former driver. how do you know it cant go beyond 30.00? how do you know? stocks can't be predicted with the certainty you are trying to employ here haha. yaani unaniita former driver. kuwa mpole.. sorry to appear too certain, indeed one cannot be 100% certain but I am 99.9% based on analysis of the charts plus macro environment in the mortgage subsector. i am a seasoned analyst who has only lost KES 48,250 since starting trade in 2006 at NSE where the same loss was fully recovered by gains in excess of 5million.. safaricom is the culprit share which I sold on panic When I grow up(in stocks) I want to talk like you! That is far much less than I've lost just this year! And I certainly haven't made anything close to your 5M Dont get me wrong. There are times the value of stock in my portfolio has gone down. Its js that I rarely have short term trades. I have benefited from relatively high returns, mostly over 70%, by having called correct entry level on Kengen, Stanbic Uganda, HFCK, Bralirwa, Centum, KCB and rode them wisely for upto 3-4 years. Look at start date of this very thread as a basic example. For now, my chips are solidly on KQ.. KES 30 imenuna! Ujuzi nayo? COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 484,100 ABP 7.45; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,621
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obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Mukiri wrote:obiero wrote:Aguytrying wrote:obiero wrote:WaHande wrote:could it be a good buy at its current rate??
It is a good buy if you are comfortable with a return not exceeding 10% this year. It definitely cannot go beyond KES 30 before next year. I said the same in Q1 this year and some people tried to shut me up @former driver. how do you know it cant go beyond 30.00? how do you know? stocks can't be predicted with the certainty you are trying to employ here haha. yaani unaniita former driver. kuwa mpole.. sorry to appear too certain, indeed one cannot be 100% certain but I am 99.9% based on analysis of the charts plus macro environment in the mortgage subsector. i am a seasoned analyst who has only lost KES 48,250 since starting trade in 2006 at NSE where the same loss was fully recovered by gains in excess of 5million.. safaricom is the culprit share which I sold on panic When I grow up(in stocks) I want to talk like you! That is far much less than I've lost just this year! And I certainly haven't made anything close to your 5M Dont get me wrong. There are times the value of stock in my portfolio has gone down. Its js that I rarely have short term trades. I have benefited from relatively high returns, mostly over 70%, by having called correct entry level on Kengen, Stanbic Uganda, HFCK, Bralirwa, Centum, KCB and rode them wisely for upto 3-4 years. Look at start date of this very thread as a basic example. For now, my chips are solidly on KQ.. KES 30 imenuna! Ujuzi nayo? Ha!,which is this stock that endlessly soars to the next price level?,your beloved KQ would be at over 15 by now,......ama 15 ilinuna?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,648 Location: nairobi
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cnn wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Mukiri wrote:obiero wrote:Aguytrying wrote:obiero wrote:WaHande wrote:could it be a good buy at its current rate??
It is a good buy if you are comfortable with a return not exceeding 10% this year. It definitely cannot go beyond KES 30 before next year. I said the same in Q1 this year and some people tried to shut me up @former driver. how do you know it cant go beyond 30.00? how do you know? stocks can't be predicted with the certainty you are trying to employ here haha. yaani unaniita former driver. kuwa mpole.. sorry to appear too certain, indeed one cannot be 100% certain but I am 99.9% based on analysis of the charts plus macro environment in the mortgage subsector. i am a seasoned analyst who has only lost KES 48,250 since starting trade in 2006 at NSE where the same loss was fully recovered by gains in excess of 5million.. safaricom is the culprit share which I sold on panic When I grow up(in stocks) I want to talk like you! That is far much less than I've lost just this year! And I certainly haven't made anything close to your 5M Dont get me wrong. There are times the value of stock in my portfolio has gone down. Its js that I rarely have short term trades. I have benefited from relatively high returns, mostly over 70%, by having called correct entry level on Kengen, Stanbic Uganda, HFCK, Bralirwa, Centum, KCB and rode them wisely for upto 3-4 years. Look at start date of this very thread as a basic example. For now, my chips are solidly on KQ.. KES 30 imenuna! Ujuzi nayo? Ha!,which is this stock that endlessly soars to the next price level?,your beloved KQ would be at over 15 by now,......ama 15 ilinuna? @cnn 15 haijanuna. actually, hio ndio itafika 30 in next 1 year COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 484,100 ABP 7.45; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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Best KQ will make in Q2 is another 300-400m making it a 750m - 800m PAT for the year. Divide this with the many shares issued and you will realize the price of 13.50 throws up a forward PE of about 25x. Surely there is no reason for KQto cost that much.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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http://www.businessdaily...14/-/mjvw5b/-/index.html"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,648 Location: nairobi
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Kausha wrote:Best KQ will make in Q2 is another 300-400m making it a 750m - 800m PAT for the year. Divide this with the many shares issued and you will realize the price of 13.50 throws up a forward PE of about 25x. Surely there is no reason for KQto cost that much. @kausha bado tuko hapa hapa wazua. lets compare notes in 2015 COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 484,100 ABP 7.45; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,167 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Kausha wrote:Best KQ will make in Q2 is another 300-400m making it a 750m - 800m PAT for the year. Divide this with the many shares issued and you will realize the price of 13.50 throws up a forward PE of about 25x. Surely there is no reason for KQto cost that much. @kausha bado tuko hapa hapa wazua. lets compare notes in 2015 Even if KQ doubles the 2013-14 EPS to 1/- that's a forward PER of 13.5 ... The cashflow will suffer as loans are loaded on, cash from operations will be used for plane deposits, etc [Yes, more planes = more seats = more revenue if filled] The PB looks attractive BUT cash is king. Can KQ generate enough cashflow in bad times to pay off the loans? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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@obiero. you've harassed my passengers enough bana. since u left the bus don't worry so much where it's going. wish us well if you May. most buses I alighted from this year have gone on to post ridiculous price but ana meza mate tu. and trust in your new ones. happy hunting, current driver. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,648 Location: nairobi
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Aguytrying wrote:@obiero. you've harassed my passengers enough bana. since u left the bus don't worry so much where it's going. wish us well if you May. most buses I alighted from this year have gone on to post ridiculous price but ana meza mate tu. and trust in your new ones.
happy hunting, current driver. @aguy old lovers never forget each other COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 484,100 ABP 7.45; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,621
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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cnn wrote: A high of 30 at last. woot! woot! Ive now made 100% profit on this share at 30.00. My first one. Equity first as we head for KCB share price in <2yrs. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,187 Location: nairobi
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Its time we organise a wazua party i meet this funny names @aguy,cnn,hisah etc...becoming a millionare is not a small thing. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Aguytrying #47 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:36:50 PM Quote Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 2,880 Location: Nairobi This share is UNDERVALUED. I cant believe how much it is undervalued. Mr market is selling at a low price. I estimate a conservative eps of 4.00 for FY 2013. conservative PE of 10. target: 40.00 of Q2 2014. That's a 154% capital gain. Money never sleeps Back to top WWW Report Abusive | Report SPAM The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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