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EBOLA Virus
murchr
#556 Posted : Saturday, October 25, 2014 3:54:14 PM
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masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
Am liking Americans response to Ebola, its just too funny

those guys are too fearful bwana... kumbe watu wanaogopa kuhara na kutapika hivi? i think most people see themselves bleeding (as if you are cut) whenever you get e-baller. fear has gripped the hearts of many americans.


The effects of watching too many movies. I guess they are more scared of the "how you will die". Bleeding from allover your body is not interesting at all.

What is more impressive is how the mayors are on top of things. Informing the public that a neighbor has been diagnosed and urging them not to panic
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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harrydre
#557 Posted : Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:07:44 PM
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symbols wrote:
WHO: Mali case put many at risk for Ebola

Quote:
The toddler died while being treated at a hospital in the western city of Kayes on Friday, according to a statement from the Health Ministry read out on television.


Sad to loose a child to this thing. Sad
i.am.back!!!!
jaggernaut
#558 Posted : Monday, October 27, 2014 12:16:31 AM
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Did you know that malaria kills over 780,000 people each year, and is worse than Ebola?
symbols
#559 Posted : Monday, October 27, 2014 5:35:31 AM
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Boris Boyka
#560 Posted : Monday, October 27, 2014 7:34:26 AM
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Quote
"One problem is that the early symptoms of
Ebola and malaria can be similar, But at the moment when people have fevers, they are often afraid to go to healthcare facilities because they want to avoid being held in the Ebola treatment centres.
"And there's a lack of trust and confidence in
health workers. There's still a feeling it's them
who are bringing the virus to people."
sisemi kitu mimi
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Muriel
#561 Posted : Monday, October 27, 2014 8:33:35 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Did you know that malaria kills over 780,000 people each year, and is worse than Ebola?


Malaria gives you suitable, relevant and multiple choices to opt for:

A) Sleep under a mosquito net
B) Do not sleep under a mosquito net - use for chickens and in gardens instead
C) Take anti-malaria drugs and complete the dose
D) Take anti-malaria drugs and do not complete the dose
E) Do nothing

Spoilt for choice in malaria business.
masukuma
#562 Posted : Monday, October 27, 2014 10:10:22 AM
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Muriel wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Did you know that malaria kills over 780,000 people each year, and is worse than Ebola?


Malaria gives you suitable, relevant and multiple choices to opt for:

A) Sleep under a mosquito net
B) Do not sleep under a mosquito net - use for chickens and in gardens instead
C) Take anti-malaria drugs and complete the dose
D) Take anti-malaria drugs and do not complete the dose
E) Do nothing

Spoilt for choice in malaria business.

While not as many as Malaria's, Ebola gives you suitable, relevant and multiple choices to opt for as well:
a) Don't get in contact with fluids of infected persons
b) if you do get symptomatic get yourself into a health facility ASAP
c) Kunywa ORS and antibiotics as you harisha and tapika
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Muriel
#563 Posted : Monday, October 27, 2014 11:57:20 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Did you know that malaria kills over 780,000 people each year, and is worse than Ebola?


Malaria gives you suitable, relevant and multiple choices to opt for:

A) Sleep under a mosquito net
B) Do not sleep under a mosquito net - use for chickens and in gardens instead
C) Take anti-malaria drugs and complete the dose
D) Take anti-malaria drugs and do not complete the dose
E) Do nothing

Spoilt for choice in malaria business.

While not as many as Malaria's, Ebola gives you suitable, relevant and multiple choices to opt for as well:
a) Don't get in contact with fluids of infected persons
b) if you do get symptomatic get yourself into a health facility ASAP
c) Kunywa ORS and antibiotics as you harisha and tapika


Absolutely!

Hence I, you, anyone can thumb nose at malaria and sneer at it - and get away with it.

It is a defeated foe. Unless one 'wants' to die from it, ita do?

The problem with malaria is not malaria but people.

masukuma
#564 Posted : Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:13:52 PM
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Muriel wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Did you know that malaria kills over 780,000 people each year, and is worse than Ebola?


Malaria gives you suitable, relevant and multiple choices to opt for:

A) Sleep under a mosquito net
B) Do not sleep under a mosquito net - use for chickens and in gardens instead
C) Take anti-malaria drugs and complete the dose
D) Take anti-malaria drugs and do not complete the dose
E) Do nothing

Spoilt for choice in malaria business.

While not as many as Malaria's, Ebola gives you suitable, relevant and multiple choices to opt for as well:
a) Don't get in contact with fluids of infected persons
b) if you do get symptomatic get yourself into a health facility ASAP
c) Kunywa ORS and antibiotics as you harisha and tapika


Absolutely!

Hence I, you, anyone can thumb nose at malaria and sneer at it - and get away with it.

It is a defeated foe. Unless one 'wants' to die from it, ita do?

The problem with malaria is not malaria but people.


really? many children under 5 are dying and they don't 'want' to die. the 7 Jumbo jet's analogy shows that this is not the case. The thing about Ebola is that it has scared you and other people sh*tless to a point where it's like nothing else exists - it's a deer in headlights situation for most people. Everyone tends to forget that for each of those 120 people dying daily from Ebola I know that there are possibly 120 people or more dying from Malaria.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
AlphDoti
#565 Posted : Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:24:24 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Did you know that malaria kills over 780,000 people each year, and is worse than Ebola?


Malaria gives you suitable, relevant and multiple choices to opt for:

A) Sleep under a mosquito net
B) Do not sleep under a mosquito net - use for chickens and in gardens instead
C) Take anti-malaria drugs and complete the dose
D) Take anti-malaria drugs and do not complete the dose
E) Do nothing

Spoilt for choice in malaria business.

While not as many as Malaria's, Ebola gives you suitable, relevant and multiple choices to opt for as well:
a) Don't get in contact with fluids of infected persons
b) if you do get symptomatic get yourself into a health facility ASAP
c) Kunywa ORS and antibiotics as you harisha and tapika


Absolutely!

Hence I, you, anyone can thumb nose at malaria and sneer at it - and get away with it.

It is a defeated foe. Unless one 'wants' to die from it, ita do?

The problem with malaria is not malaria but people.


really? many children under 5 are dying and they don't 'want' to die. the 7 Jumbo jet's analogy shows that this is not the case. The thing about Ebola is that it has scared you and other people sh*tless to a point where it's like nothing else exists - it's a deer in headlights situation for most people. Everyone tends to forget that for each of those 120 people dying daily from Ebola I know that there are possibly 120 people or more dying from Malaria.

@masukums Applause

Truth be told, it's "WHO" not "WHAT" that matters Liar
masukuma
#566 Posted : Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:57:59 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:

@masukums Applause

Truth be told, it's "WHO" not "WHAT" that matters Liar

yes @alph is right... it's not WHAT but 'WHO'.... my fellow Africans.. don't behave like Americans.... you are not Americans... you have different set of diseases that kill you only and kills you in large numbers (in addition to ebola) and the only reason we are seeing all this noise making is because

All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Muriel
#567 Posted : Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:05:37 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Muriel wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Did you know that malaria kills over 780,000 people each year, and is worse than Ebola?


Malaria gives you suitable, relevant and multiple choices to opt for:

A) Sleep under a mosquito net
B) Do not sleep under a mosquito net - use for chickens and in gardens instead
C) Take anti-malaria drugs and complete the dose
D) Take anti-malaria drugs and do not complete the dose
E) Do nothing

Spoilt for choice in malaria business.

While not as many as Malaria's, Ebola gives you suitable, relevant and multiple choices to opt for as well:
a) Don't get in contact with fluids of infected persons
b) if you do get symptomatic get yourself into a health facility ASAP
c) Kunywa ORS and antibiotics as you harisha and tapika


Absolutely!

Hence I, you, anyone can thumb nose at malaria and sneer at it - and get away with it.

It is a defeated foe. Unless one 'wants' to die from it, ita do?

The problem with malaria is not malaria but people.


really? many children under 5 are dying and they don't 'want' to die. the 7 Jumbo jet's analogy shows that this is not the case. The thing about Ebola is that it has scared you and other people sh*tless to a point where it's like nothing else exists - it's a deer in headlights situation for most people. Everyone tends to forget that for each of those 120 people dying daily from Ebola I know that there are possibly 120 people or more dying from Malaria.


Masukuma,

The weakest link in the chain of RBM (or TB) is people. It is not technology / ITNs, drugs or the mosquito. For anything horrendous to happen to a <5 yr old (or any child for that matter) we must not ask the child but the parent, caregiver, or guardian. Lets leave the phraseology at that?

I have noted before that ebola is in its 'infancy' (or perhaps 'embryonic stage') in regard to the 'time' it has 'interacted' with human beings.

When it has done so, perhaps as long as malaria has, nothing else may exist. Literally. Perspective. Therefore, we should not have even started comparing ebola to malaria. They are not alike whichever which way they are considered.

That is the danger with analogies.

PS

Have you considered that the originators of that malaria/tb - ebola analogy are (deliberately) highlighting the multitude of (less developed) people still dying of (treatable) diseases. You have not come across cancer - ebola analogy lying around some place have you?

You sometimes fight against the wrong side, bwana. Perspective. Wachana na Alphdoti.
masukuma
#568 Posted : Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:47:30 AM
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Muriel wrote:

Masukuma,

The weakest link in the chain of RBM (or TB) is people. It is not technology / ITNs, drugs or the mosquito. For anything horrendous to happen to a <5 yr old (or any child for that matter) we must not ask the child but the parent, caregiver, or guardian. Lets leave the phraseology at that?

I have noted before that ebola is in its 'infancy' (or perhaps 'embryonic stage') in regard to the 'time' it has 'interacted' with human beings.

When it has done so, perhaps as long as malaria has, nothing else may exist. Literally. Perspective. Therefore, we should not have even started comparing ebola to malaria. They are not alike whichever which way they are considered.

That is the danger with analogies.

PS

Have you considered that the originators of that malaria/tb - ebola analogy are (deliberately) highlighting the multitude of (less developed) people still dying of (treatable) diseases. You have not come across cancer - ebola analogy lying around some place have you?

You sometimes fight against the wrong side, bwana. Perspective. Wachana na Alphdoti.

Ebola is in it's infancy? I don't think so! I think Ebola, HIV and other Zoonotic diseases have always been with us - the only thing is that people now travel more. ebola may be responsible for clearing and forwarding of entire villages in the equatorial forests for millenia - the reason we don't know about it is because no one survived. I suspect there are diseases lurking in the Amazon that have do the same to the inhabitants. If an entire village was swept off the face of the earth some 100-1000 years ago somewhere deep in the equitorial forest... who would have written about it? We are now seening these diseases simply because we are now travelling more and we are connected to these people. Would it suprise you if I told you that I knew that NBC cameraman? I think I met him on a certain bash and we were on the same mailing list discussing ebola. Now that you know me... you are 3 degrees of separation away from a person who actually had Ebola - that is the reality of this world that makes people think 'things are new'.

In other news... Hospital beds are empty.... in Monrovia. I first heard this story from a dude who works next to the main road in Monrovia. Ambulances in October have been far less active... in September the road was screaming with sirens. He told me that Hospital beds are empty and naturally I didn't trust him.... I just saw an article today in the new york times that points to that.

All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Muriel
#569 Posted : Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:20:17 PM
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masukuma wrote:

Ebola is in it's infancy? I don't think so! I think Ebola, HIV and other Zoonotic diseases have always been with us - the only thing is that people now travel more. ebola may be responsible for clearing and forwarding of entire villages in the equatorial forests for millenia - the reason we don't know about it is because no one survived. I suspect there are diseases lurking in the Amazon that have do the same to the inhabitants. If an entire village was swept off the face of the earth some 100-1000 years ago somewhere deep in the equitorial forest... who would have written about it? We are now seening these diseases simply because we are now travelling more and we are connected to these people. Would it suprise you if I told you that I knew that NBC cameraman? I think I met him on a certain bash and we were on the same mailing list discussing ebola. Now that you know me... you are 3 degrees of separation away from a person who actually had Ebola - that is the reality of this world that makes people think 'things are new'.

In other news... Hospital beds are empty.... in Monrovia. I first heard this story from a dude who works next to the main road in Monrovia. Ambulances in October have been far less active... in September the road was screaming with sirens. He told me that Hospital beds are empty and naturally I didn't trust him.... I just saw an article today in the new york times that points to that.



Naturally, I assume there is scientific evidence of this?

Lets use what we know for certain.
masukuma
#570 Posted : Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:20:26 PM
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Muriel wrote:
masukuma wrote:

Ebola is in it's infancy? I don't think so! I think Ebola, HIV and other Zoonotic diseases have always been with us - the only thing is that people now travel more. ebola may be responsible for clearing and forwarding of entire villages in the equatorial forests for millenia - the reason we don't know about it is because no one survived. I suspect there are diseases lurking in the Amazon that have do the same to the inhabitants. If an entire village was swept off the face of the earth some 100-1000 years ago somewhere deep in the equitorial forest... who would have written about it? We are now seening these diseases simply because we are now travelling more and we are connected to these people. Would it suprise you if I told you that I knew that NBC cameraman? I think I met him on a certain bash and we were on the same mailing list discussing ebola. Now that you know me... you are 3 degrees of separation away from a person who actually had Ebola - that is the reality of this world that makes people think 'things are new'.

In other news... Hospital beds are empty.... in Monrovia. I first heard this story from a dude who works next to the main road in Monrovia. Ambulances in October have been far less active... in September the road was screaming with sirens. He told me that Hospital beds are empty and naturally I didn't trust him.... I just saw an article today in the new york times that points to that.



Naturally, I assume there is scientific evidence of this?

Lets use what we know for certain.

the term 'may' explains it all....

All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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