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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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harrydre wrote:kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:Also why should all those matatus and buses from upcountry come and park withing the city centre the whole day hapo accra, latema rd, river road, nyamakima, tea room etc. Those matatu stages on the outskirts that sonko has proposed should be used by those upcountry matatus and buses and leave the cbd to the nairobi matatus. If one wants to travel upcountry let them board a city matatu and be dropped kwa stage ya matatu za kwao huko outskirts. https://www.kenyans.co.k...irobi.jpg?itok=jx97wB6T Well said. Vehicles from Western should terminate at Kangemi,those from areas past Kenol at Githurai and Mombasa road at Belle vue. In Tz no upcountry vehicle goes past Ubungo. Metro Commuter train will need to be built first. Govt buys 11 trains from spain for commuter train service. <<RINK>>
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/15/2018 Posts: 428
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wukan wrote:
This what they achieved in making you believe but actually if you remove the matatus let's say from 50 km from CBD Nairobi introduced a proper public transport system you will realize they are not an efficient distribution mechanism. There are enough reports on this done by experts gathering dust in some govt offices. You will realize that transport costs in Nairobi are much higher than more developed cities like Hong Kong
This is because the city is poorly planned or not planned at all. And the poor planning is due to corruption and land grabbing that has happened in the past 55 years. Land that was set aside for infrastructure expansion back in the 1970s was grabbed by bigwigs. Its not just transport that is expensive. Even an activity like garbage collection is bloody expensive in Nairobi. A garbage truck would use up all its fuel stuck in traffic or be damaged by the huge pot-holes present in most Nairobi estates. The only solution to this quagmire is to decongest the city.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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hardwood wrote:harrydre wrote:kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:Also why should all those matatus and buses from upcountry come and park withing the city centre the whole day hapo accra, latema rd, river road, nyamakima, tea room etc. Those matatu stages on the outskirts that sonko has proposed should be used by those upcountry matatus and buses and leave the cbd to the nairobi matatus. If one wants to travel upcountry let them board a city matatu and be dropped kwa stage ya matatu za kwao huko outskirts. https://www.kenyans.co.k...irobi.jpg?itok=jx97wB6T Well said. Vehicles from Western should terminate at Kangemi,those from areas past Kenol at Githurai and Mombasa road at Belle vue. In Tz no upcountry vehicle goes past Ubungo. Metro Commuter train will need to be built first. Govt buys 11 trains from spain for commuter train service. <<RINK>> To run on which rails? No brainer.  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Industrialization and motor vehicle assembly top of Big 4 Agenda... Imports BRT buses from SA. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Government of fools for fools. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Hehe. The jumbiree govt has finally come up with a solution....  https://www.the-star.co....obi-government_c1885508
Quote:The government has announced that Nairobi will be car-free on Wednesdays and Saturdays starting February 1.
Transport PS Paul Maringa on Monday said there will be dedicated parking in Uhuru Park and Railways as no car will be allowed within the CBD during these two days.
Maringa said during the set days, hawkers will be allowed to sell their wares.
The PS said this will generate Sh39.5 million daily revenue to the government from over 100,000 hawkers.
Maringa said the move which is a pilot program, will employ many, generating Sh 3.8 billion annually.
"The pilot stage is starting off with Moi Avenue, Harambee Avenue, Taifa Road, City hall and Mama Ngina Street," Maringa said.
He said the exercise will be fully done in Kenyatta Avenue, University way, Moi Avenue and Haile Selassie, before going to Westlands.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Impunity wrote:hardwood wrote:harrydre wrote:kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:Also why should all those matatus and buses from upcountry come and park withing the city centre the whole day hapo accra, latema rd, river road, nyamakima, tea room etc. Those matatu stages on the outskirts that sonko has proposed should be used by those upcountry matatus and buses and leave the cbd to the nairobi matatus. If one wants to travel upcountry let them board a city matatu and be dropped kwa stage ya matatu za kwao huko outskirts. https://www.kenyans.co.k...irobi.jpg?itok=jx97wB6T Well said. Vehicles from Western should terminate at Kangemi,those from areas past Kenol at Githurai and Mombasa road at Belle vue. In Tz no upcountry vehicle goes past Ubungo. Metro Commuter train will need to be built first. Govt buys 11 trains from spain for commuter train service. <<RINK>> To run on which rails? No brainer. The old lunatic line serving the city suburbs. When you buy a new car you dont have to build a new road for your new car, you use the usual road.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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hardwood wrote:Hehe. The jumbiree govt has finally come up with a solution.... https://www.the-star.co....obi-government_c1885508
Quote:The government has announced that Nairobi will be car-free on Wednesdays and Saturdays starting February 1.
Transport PS Paul Maringa on Monday said there will be dedicated parking in Uhuru Park and Railways as no car will be allowed within the CBD during these two days.
Maringa said during the set days, hawkers will be allowed to sell their wares.
The PS said this will generate Sh39.5 million daily revenue to the government from over 100,000 hawkers.
Maringa said the move which is a pilot program, will employ many, generating Sh 3.8 billion annually.
"The pilot stage is starting off with Moi Avenue, Harambee Avenue, Taifa Road, City hall and Mama Ngina Street," Maringa said.
He said the exercise will be fully done in Kenyatta Avenue, University way, Moi Avenue and Haile Selassie, before going to Westlands. Tumbili government indeed If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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When you see such silly and illogical announcements, you should not think about how it affects you. What you should think about is how it affects them, where them is the political class. You can see this is a hairbrained scheme to raise revenue/chai. Lots of bribing will ensue, with hawkers not paying fees etc. It will be a field day for the vultures at City Hall. Failed state. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,595
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sparkly wrote:Industrialization and motor vehicle assembly top of Big 4 Agenda... Imports BRT buses from SA.
Local assembly converting hino/isuzu lorries and mounting the frame and then calling them buses Kweli we love mediocrity. Those are not buses just converted trucks like those face me pickups that used to serve mashambani commuters. We end up with matatus trucks that belch black smoke all over. BRT buses have own specifications including wide doors and low emission engines.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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wukan wrote:sparkly wrote:Industrialization and motor vehicle assembly top of Big 4 Agenda... Imports BRT buses from SA.
Local assembly converting hino/isuzu lorries and mounting the frame and then calling them buses Kweli we love mediocrity. Those are not buses just converted trucks like those face me pickups that used to serve mashambani commuters. We end up with matatus trucks that belch black smoke all over. BRT buses have own specifications including wide doors and low emission engines. Don't you find it crazy that you are buying those BRT buses that have all those specifications and yet the roads with the BRT specifications don't exist. I mean if the government really wants to spur growth in manufacturing, is it really that hard to create wide doors and import low emission engines - seriously, if one can make a narrow door they can be encouraged to make a wider door, and if one can import a high emission engine they can be asked to import a low emission one, ama south africa manufactures low emission engines.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,595
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:wukan wrote:sparkly wrote:Industrialization and motor vehicle assembly top of Big 4 Agenda... Imports BRT buses from SA.
Local assembly converting hino/isuzu lorries and mounting the frame and then calling them buses Kweli we love mediocrity. Those are not buses just converted trucks like those face me pickups that used to serve mashambani commuters. We end up with matatus trucks that belch black smoke all over. BRT buses have own specifications including wide doors and low emission engines. Don't you find it crazy that you are buying those BRT buses that have all those specifications and yet the roads with the BRT specifications don't exist. I mean if the government really wants to spur growth in manufacturing, is it really that hard to create wide doors and import low emission engines - seriously, if one can make a narrow door they can be encouraged to make a wider door, and if one can import a high emission engine they can be asked to import a low emission one, ama south africa manufactures low emission engines. Govt is only importing the first 64 buses. BRT will need like 900 buses to run so really the assemblers will have caught up if they want to. We should not subsidize mediocrity. We are not doing Githurai 45 and kenya mpya buses period.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hardwood wrote:Hehe. The jumbiree govt has finally come up with a solution.... https://www.the-star.co....obi-government_c1885508
Quote:The government has announced that Nairobi will be car-free on Wednesdays and Saturdays starting February 1.
Transport PS Paul Maringa on Monday said there will be dedicated parking in Uhuru Park and Railways as no car will be allowed within the CBD during these two days.
Maringa said during the set days, hawkers will be allowed to sell their wares.
The PS said this will generate Sh39.5 million daily revenue to the government from over 100,000 hawkers.
Maringa said the move which is a pilot program, will employ many, generating Sh 3.8 billion annually.
"The pilot stage is starting off with Moi Avenue, Harambee Avenue, Taifa Road, City hall and Mama Ngina Street," Maringa said.
He said the exercise will be fully done in Kenyatta Avenue, University way, Moi Avenue and Haile Selassie, before going to Westlands. This is stupid. Do hawkers pay taxes? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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Idiots... Why only wednesdays and Saturdays. They should make it a totally car free zone all days. In fact, dig out the current tarmac roads and replace with specially designed bicycle tracks. They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 467 Location: Nairobi
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tom_boy wrote:Idiots... Why only wednesdays and Saturdays. They should make it a totally car free zone all days. In fact, dig out the current tarmac roads and replace with specially designed bicycle tracks. We will still have to import bicycles to cycle on the bicycle tracks...kushikanisha tube za steel/aluminium hatuwezi since 1963.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Is that nonsense starting today? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/24/2007 Posts: 1,805
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Could someone kindly enlighten me why the Ministry of Transport has sudden interest in hawkers? Why is it giving instructions on road use in CBD? Where is the Governor in all this? AS someone says... This is too jumbled up to be clean... I feel this is a cover show for something else... They know for sure it does not make any economic or administrative sense. They know it will fail... But they push it anyway.. Kuna mchezo inaendelea.... I Think Therefore I Am
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/17/2010 Posts: 110 Location: Nairobi
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bwenyenye wrote:Could someone kindly enlighten me why the Ministry of Transport has sudden interest in hawkers? Why is it giving instructions on road use in CBD? Where is the Governor in all this?
AS someone says... This is too jumbled up to be clean... I feel this is a cover show for something else... They know for sure it does not make any economic or administrative sense. They know it will fail... But they push it anyway.. Kuna mchezo inaendelea.... At 1.14 therein your answer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQgE2RaocMY
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Car free days implementation postponed 
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/27/2006 Posts: 503
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clowns running the Ministry of Transport.... why don't they just implement the 2018 JICA study? http://open_jicareport.j....jp/pdf/12307658_01.pdf
If you want to go back in time to 2006: http://open_jicareport.j...o.jp/pdf/11823085_01.pdf
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