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Sorry, this is for T bill 2123 https://www.centralbank....0dated%2015.05.2017.pdf
My maths with above % and what CBK is asking is different . why l seem not to get.WT @15%[/quote] Rephrase...and note that WTH for bonds 10 years and above is 15%... [/quote] The result for T bill[2123] 364 days with weighted average interest of 10.929%,now assuming the coupon value is 100,000/- how much is one supposed to pay CBK inclusive WT?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Rephrase...and note that WTH for bonds 10 years and above is 15%... [/quote] The result for T bill[2123] 364 days with weighted average interest of 10.929%,now assuming the coupon value is 100,000/- how much is one supposed to pay CBK inclusive WT?[/quote] 90,710.35 or the nearest answer In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Angelica _ann wrote:Rephrase...and note that WTH for bonds 10 years and above is 15%... The result for T bill[2123] 364 days with weighted average interest of 10.929%,now assuming the coupon value is 100,000/- how much is one supposed to pay CBK inclusive WT?[/quote] 90,710.35 or the nearest answer [/quote] Thought so but Why then 91,646.20?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Rephrase...and note that WTH for bonds 10 years and above is 15%... The result for T bill[2123] 364 days with weighted average interest of 10.929%,now assuming the coupon value is 100,000/- how much is one supposed to pay CBK inclusive WT? 90,710.35 or the nearest answer Why then 91,646.20? Settlement Price = Clean Price (Ksh. 90.172) + Accrued Interest. Find the accrued interest from the bill prospectus Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Pesa Nane wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Rephrase...and note that WTH for bonds 10 years and above is 15%... The result for T bill[2123] 364 days with weighted average interest of 10.929%,now assuming the coupon value is 100,000/- how much is one supposed to pay CBK inclusive WT? 90,710.35 or the nearest answer Why then 91,646.20? Settlement Price = Clean Price (Ksh. 90.172) + Accrued Interest. Find the accrued interest from the bill prospectus Si thats same as dirty price... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Pesa Nane wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Rephrase...and note that WTH for bonds 10 years and above is 15%... The result for T bill[2123] 364 days with weighted average interest of 10.929%,now assuming the coupon value is 100,000/- how much is one supposed to pay CBK inclusive WT? 90,710.35 or the nearest answer Why then 91,646.20? Settlement Price = Clean Price (Ksh. 90.172) + Accrued Interest. Find the accrued interest from the bill prospectus Ghai! nothing straight forward where money is concerned !
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Taurrus wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Rephrase...and note that WTH for bonds 10 years and above is 15%... The result for T bill[2123] 364 days with weighted average interest of 10.929%,now assuming the coupon value is 100,000/- how much is one supposed to pay CBK inclusive WT? 90,710.35 or the nearest answer Why then 91,646.20? Settlement Price = Clean Price (Ksh. 90.172) + Accrued Interest. Find the accrued interest from the bill prospectus Ghai! nothing straight forward where money is concerned ! Its quite straight forward. Place the prospectus here we do the math. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Pesa Nane wrote:Taurrus wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Rephrase...and note that WTH for bonds 10 years and above is 15%... The result for T bill[2123] 364 days with weighted average interest of 10.929%,now assuming the coupon value is 100,000/- how much is one supposed to pay CBK inclusive WT? 90,710.35 or the nearest answer Why then 91,646.20? Settlement Price = Clean Price (Ksh. 90.172) + Accrued Interest. Find the accrued interest from the bill prospectus Ghai! nothing straight forward where money is concerned ! Its quite straight forward. Place the prospectus here we do the math. T Bills ziko na prospectus kweli? forgive am newbie !! results here https://www.centralbank....20dated%2015.05.2017.pdf
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Taurrus wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Taurrus wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Rephrase...and note that WTH for bonds 10 years and above is 15%... The result for T bill[2123] 364 days with weighted average interest of 10.929%,now assuming the coupon value is 100,000/- how much is one supposed to pay CBK inclusive WT? 90,710.35 or the nearest answer Why then 91,646.20? Settlement Price = Clean Price (Ksh. 90.172) + Accrued Interest. Find the accrued interest from the bill prospectus Ghai! nothing straight forward where money is concerned ! Its quite straight forward. Place the prospectus here we do the math. T Bills ziko na prospectus kweli? forgive am newbie !! results here https://www.centralbank....0dated%2015.05.2017.pdf My pardon for that. Assumed we were talking T-BONDS. For T-Bond, now you know. Back to your T-BILL. Settlement Price = Quote Price + Tax (15%) TAx = 15% of discount amount (Face value less quote price) Settlement = Ksh 90,172 + {15% of (100,000 - 90,172)} Settlement = Ksh 90,172 + (15% of 9,828) Settlement = Ksh 90,172 + 1,474.20 Settlement = Ksh 91,646.20Mystery solved! Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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And how did you get 90 172?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Taurrus wrote:And how did you get 90 172? At the quoted average yield of 10.929%, the price per Ksh. 100.00 is Ksh. 90.172. Price per Ksh. 100 = Ksh. 90.172 Price per Ksh. 100k= Ksh. 90.172 X 1000 Price per Ksh. 100k= Ksh. 90,172.00 Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Pesa Nane wrote:Taurrus wrote:And how did you get 90 172? At the quoted average yield of 10.929%, the price per Ksh. 100.00 is Ksh. 90.172. Price per Ksh. 100 = Ksh. 90.172 Price per Ksh. 100k= Ksh. 90.172 X 1000 Price per Ksh. 100k= Ksh. 90,172.00 Thanks Pesa8 for the simplified maths, though it makes me/us look baad . I like @Taurrus, he kept on asking In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Angelica _ann wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Taurrus wrote:And how did you get 90 172? At the quoted average yield of 10.929%, the price per Ksh. 100.00 is Ksh. 90.172. Price per Ksh. 100 = Ksh. 90.172 Price per Ksh. 100k= Ksh. 90.172 X 1000 Price per Ksh. 100k= Ksh. 90,172.00 Thanks Pesa8 for the simplified maths, though it makes me/us look baad . I like @Taurrus, he kept on asking Thanks very much, now I know! @AA l am still doubting my calculator app maybe kuna hack ndani yake! 10.929% of 100? Shukran pesa8
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote: FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15
possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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maka wrote:maka wrote: FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15
@Maka interest ya 9.3% na 12.5% taxed ni poa for such a long time ?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote: FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15
@Maka interest ya 9.3% na 12.5% taxed ni poa for such a long time ? Ummmh No... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,702 Location: NAIROBI
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The govt plan in the 2016/17 budget was to borrow Shs.612bn from the domestic market. By end of Dec 16, it was increased to Shs.912bn. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Ericsson wrote:The govt plan in the 2016/17 budget was to borrow Shs.612bn from the domestic market. By end of Dec 16, it was increased to Shs.912bn. How much has so far been borrowed locally? Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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maka wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote: FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15
@Maka interest ya 9.3% na 12.5% taxed ni poa for such a long time ? Ummmh No... Your yield will be much higher than the 9.3% interest since you are buying at a lower price and not at par. Simplified,..... you will only pay 92K BUT interest calculation will be 9.3% of 100K. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Pesa Nane wrote:maka wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote: FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15
@Maka interest ya 9.3% na 12.5% taxed ni poa for such a long time ? Ummmh No... Your yield will be much higher than the 9.3% interest since you are buying at a lower price and not at par. Simplified,..... you will only pay 92K BUT interest calculation will be 9.3% of 100K. 9.3/92.093 * 100 = 10.09 Net 10.09*0.9 = 9.0886 possunt quia posse videntur
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