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maka wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:Chaka wrote:How will over-subscription refunds be done,i,e when refunding,will withdrawal charges be catered for? Taurrus wrote:Dahatre wrote:Taurrus wrote:
140K/day/person x 14 days
Haiiiya..are you serious? Cuz those are some serious chumz..Groceries for a couple of weeks in my household. 2M/Mobile number  Ummmh I think they will just take the whole amount whatever is subscribed I.e read somewhere they are at 16m....17000 accounts/applicants.... Hio 150M inaisha wed! 150m/(140k*19days) is approx. Over 50m mobile subscribers. Definitely it shall be undersuscribed. Hopefully things will get better going forward...I dont like the bit they are allocating brokers...just opened an account and been allocated Suntra. Which is a better broker we change?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:Chaka wrote:How will over-subscription refunds be done,i,e when refunding,will withdrawal charges be catered for? Taurrus wrote:Dahatre wrote:Taurrus wrote:
140K/day/person x 14 days
Haiiiya..are you serious? Cuz those are some serious chumz..Groceries for a couple of weeks in my household. 2M/Mobile number Ummmh I think they will just take the whole amount whatever is subscribed I.e read somewhere they are at 16m....17000 accounts/applicants.... Hio 150M inaisha wed! 150m/(140k*19days) is approx. Over 50m mobile subscribers. Definitely it shall be undersuscribed. Hopefully things will get better going forward...I dont like the bit they are allocating brokers...just opened an account and been allocated Suntra. Which is a better broker we change? Wanjiku who bought bond on the mobile platform cannot change her broker. Live with that fact Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Si the government is focusing on short term papers... 3/8/10-1.4 years and 1/9/10-1.98 years...Primary auction for April. https://www.centralbank....N%20dated%2024-04-17.pdfpossunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 257
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Impunity wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:Chaka wrote:How will over-subscription refunds be done,i,e when refunding,will withdrawal charges be catered for? Taurrus wrote:Dahatre wrote:Taurrus wrote:
140K/day/person x 14 days
Haiiiya..are you serious? Cuz those are some serious chumz..Groceries for a couple of weeks in my household. 2M/Mobile number Ummmh I think they will just take the whole amount whatever is subscribed I.e read somewhere they are at 16m....17000 accounts/applicants.... Hio 150M inaisha wed! 150m/(140k*19days) is approx. Over 50m mobile subscribers. Definitely it shall be undersuscribed. Hopefully things will get better going forward...I dont like the bit they are allocating brokers...just opened an account and been allocated Suntra. Which is a better broker we change? Wanjiku who bought bond on the mobile platform cannot change her broker. Live with that fact Check via USSD to confirm. Option to change broker is there. That said, even though the option is available, better put some thought before changing brokers to make sure you have a need or reason to do so.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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snipermnoma wrote:Impunity wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:Chaka wrote:How will over-subscription refunds be done,i,e when refunding,will withdrawal charges be catered for? Taurrus wrote:Dahatre wrote:Taurrus wrote:
140K/day/person x 14 days
Haiiiya..are you serious? Cuz those are some serious chumz..Groceries for a couple of weeks in my household. 2M/Mobile number Ummmh I think they will just take the whole amount whatever is subscribed I.e read somewhere they are at 16m....17000 accounts/applicants.... Hio 150M inaisha wed! 150m/(140k*19days) is approx. Over 50m mobile subscribers. Definitely it shall be undersuscribed. Hopefully things will get better going forward...I dont like the bit they are allocating brokers...just opened an account and been allocated Suntra. Which is a better broker we change? Wanjiku who bought bond on the mobile platform cannot change her broker. Live with that fact Check via USSD to confirm. Option to change broker is there. That said, even though the option is available, better put some thought before changing brokers to make sure you have a need or reason to do so. Failed to change broker please try again later. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:snipermnoma wrote:Impunity wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:Chaka wrote:How will over-subscription refunds be done,i,e when refunding,will withdrawal charges be catered for? Taurrus wrote:Dahatre wrote:Taurrus wrote:
140K/day/person x 14 days
Haiiiya..are you serious? Cuz those are some serious chumz..Groceries for a couple of weeks in my household. 2M/Mobile number Ummmh I think they will just take the whole amount whatever is subscribed I.e read somewhere they are at 16m....17000 accounts/applicants.... Hio 150M inaisha wed! 150m/(140k*19days) is approx. Over 50m mobile subscribers. Definitely it shall be undersuscribed. Hopefully things will get better going forward...I dont like the bit they are allocating brokers...just opened an account and been allocated Suntra. Which is a better broker we change? Wanjiku who bought bond on the mobile platform cannot change her broker. Live with that fact Check via USSD to confirm. Option to change broker is there. That said, even though the option is available, better put some thought before changing brokers to make sure you have a need or reason to do so. Failed to change broker please try again later. Wanjiko cannot change the broker she was allocated. SHE CANNOT. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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Run to safety continues..... Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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[quote=maka]Si the government is focusing on short term papers... 3/8/10-1.4 years and 1/9/10-1.98 years...Primary auction for April. https://www.centralbank....%20dated%2024-04-17.pdf[/quote] @Maka which number do one call CBK to get the results of T bills and Bonds and the amount to pay if outside the country and can one pay twice due to bank limits? Thanks
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Taurrus wrote:[quote=maka]Si the government is focusing on short term papers... 3/8/10-1.4 years and 1/9/10-1.98 years...Primary auction for April. https://www.centralbank....%20dated%2024-04-17.pdf[/quote] @Maka which number do one call CBK to get the results of T bills and Bonds and the amount to pay if outside the country and can one pay twice due to bank limits? Thanks 254202861000, +254202863000, Use any ask them it's info about an auction...I believe you can pay twice as long as the figures add up...since they will be mapped to one account possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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maka wrote:Taurrus wrote:[quote=maka]Si the government is focusing on short term papers... 3/8/10-1.4 years and 1/9/10-1.98 years...Primary auction for April. https://www.centralbank....%20dated%2024-04-17.pdf[/quote] @Maka which number do one call CBK to get the results of T bills and Bonds and the amount to pay if outside the country and can one pay twice due to bank limits? Thanks 254202861000, +254202863000, Use any ask them it's info about an auction...I believe you can pay twice as long as the figures add up...since they will be mapped to one account Shukran!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15 possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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maka wrote:
FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15
Long ago you started !
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:
FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15
What is the coupon? And by the way that EABL paper at 14.17% looks so so yummy...anyone? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:
FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15
Long ago you started ! Are there other hidden charges apart from WT? Maths don't add up , lets work with 100K and 10.929% weighted average, 364 day, how much do one submit to CBK?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Taurrus wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:
FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15
Long ago you started ! Are there other hidden charges apart from WT? Maths don't add up , lets work with 100K and 10.929% weighted average, 364 day, how much do one submit to CBK? 0 hidden charges...thats for which paper?Check the prospectus here... https://www.centralbank....17%20-%20Prospectus.pdf
lets work with 2/10/10 which is effectively a 3 year paper... Year YIELDS FOR THE WEEK ENDING 91 day 8.7260 182 day 10.4070 1 10.9290 2 11.9093 3 12.3584 4 12.4816 From the NSE yield curve a 3 year paper should be trading at 12.3584...If you bid and get the paper at roughly 12.5% you will pay 91.305 for every 100...you will remit 91,350 to CBK...  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:maka wrote:
FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15
What is the coupon? And by the way that EABL paper at 14.17% looks so so yummy...anyone? 12.0445% net... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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maka wrote:Taurrus wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:
FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15
Long ago you started ! Are there other hidden charges apart from WT? Maths don't add up , lets work with 100K and 10.929% weighted average, 364 day, how much do one submit to CBK? 0 hidden charges...thats for which paper?Check the prospectus here... https://www.centralbank....17%20-%20Prospectus.pdf
lets work with 2/10/10 which is effectively a 3 year paper... Year YIELDS FOR THE WEEK ENDING 91 day 8.7260 182 day 10.4070 1 10.9290 2 11.9093 3 12.3584 4 12.4816 From the NSE yield curve a 3 year paper should be trading at 12.3584...If you bid and get the paper at roughly 12.5% you will pay 91.305 for every 100...you will remit 91,350 to CBK... Sorry, this is for T bill 2123 https://www.centralbank....0dated%2015.05.2017.pdf
My maths with above % and what CBK is asking is different . why l seem not to get.WT @15%
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:Taurrus wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:
FXD 2/2010/10 and FXD1/2009/15
Long ago you started ! Are there other hidden charges apart from WT? Maths don't add up , lets work with 100K and 10.929% weighted average, 364 day, how much do one submit to CBK? 0 hidden charges...thats for which paper?Check the prospectus here... https://www.centralbank....17%20-%20Prospectus.pdf
lets work with 2/10/10 which is effectively a 3 year paper... Year YIELDS FOR THE WEEK ENDING 91 day 8.7260 182 day 10.4070 1 10.9290 2 11.9093 3 12.3584 4 12.4816 From the NSE yield curve a 3 year paper should be trading at 12.3584...If you bid and get the paper at roughly 12.5% you will pay 91.305 for every 100...you will remit 91,350 to CBK... Sorry, this is for T bill 2123 https://www.centralbank....0dated%2015.05.2017.pdf
My maths with above % and what CBK is asking is different . why l seem not to get.WT @15% Rephrase...and note that WTH for bonds 10 years and above is 15%... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 398 Location: Where everyone knows you
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@Maka,
Tax on 10 year and above is 10%.
Below 10 years is 15 %
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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MatataMingi wrote:@Maka,
Tax on 10 year and above is 10%.
Below 10 years is 15 % Yes thats correct...mixed them up... possunt quia posse videntur
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