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VituVingiSana
#3391 Posted : Tuesday, February 02, 2016 11:55:47 PM
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murchr wrote:
littledove wrote:
maka wrote:
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktnhome/video/watch/2000103018/business-today-29th-january-2016-kq-faces-turbulent-financing-times

This is the guy who should be CEO...

They have hedged up to september 2016, and they are unlikely to stop hedging!! surely they are not ready to learn or what now


This is the time to hedge and lock in these low prices. They should opt to go for it when the market hits a new low, and hedge atleast 50% of it. I dont see the prices remaining down there for a long time. Hedging is a financial strategy. How you apply it is what matters, note KQ at one time saved up alot of $$ from hedging.

The most profitable airline (south west) has always hedged and when oil hit $110 they were still buying at $50

The 'problem' KQ may face is finding hedges that are attractively priced. It's easy to say let's hedge at $30 but these are not free. There's a cost/premium the seller (counter-party) of the hedge wants that makes it worth entering into the hedge.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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VituVingiSana
#3392 Posted : Tuesday, February 02, 2016 11:57:20 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Mmm...what would @vvs do in this case when his chances came & went? Oh! Oh! I know!! I know!! witch hunt! Loser... Brush up on business cycles while you're at it and MYOB. Buffett this, Buffett that. KQ this, KQ that - argh. Ptho!

ExxonMobil reports 58% drop in profit

Quote:
As with other petroleum companies, ExxonMobil saw a massive decline in income from exploration and production of crude oil, known as "upstream" in oil parlance. Earnings in this area fell to just $857 million from $4.6 billion in the year-ago period.

http://www.news24.co.ke/...drop-in-profit-20160202

KQ is the best play in the market and you know it!

Yawn. Liar

*Please fill up at KK. Thank You. Come Again.*
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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VituVingiSana
#3393 Posted : Wednesday, February 03, 2016 12:01:34 AM
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obiero wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Mmm...what would @vvs do in this case when his chances came & went? Oh! Oh! I know!! I know!! witch hunt! Loser... Brush up on business cycles while you're at it and MYOB. Buffett this, Buffett that. KQ this, KQ that - argh. Ptho!

ExxonMobil reports 58% drop in profit

Quote:
As with other petroleum companies, ExxonMobil saw a massive decline in income from exploration and production of crude oil, known as "upstream" in oil parlance. Earnings in this area fell to just $857 million from $4.6 billion in the year-ago period.

http://www.news24.co.ke/...drop-in-profit-20160202

KQ is the best play in the market and you know it!

BP has also taken a major knock.. This oil thing isnt going too well.. @wazuans better know KK is a shaky investment going by current market situation

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Profit Announcement coming up for FY 2015. Applause Applause Applause
And another profit announcement has been lined up for 1H 2016 Drool Drool Drool and we are just one month into 2016. Let the good times roll for KK.

@wazuans better know KK is a shaky investment going by current market situation Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @Obiero - We need to place bets.
@Wazuans - What do you propose?

*Please fill up at KK. KQ to pay cash. Thank you. Come Again.*
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Cde Monomotapa
#3394 Posted : Wednesday, February 03, 2016 12:15:14 AM
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Apart from the fact that your views on KQ ceased to matter, I'll tell you again. You're better off in the NGO world, unfortunately, you'll have to raise your volume higher now.

Kenya-Dutch partnership to migrate from aid
http://www.cnbcafrica.co...-ditch-partnership-aid/

Major changes have occurred at management level and you're still at it. The FD is gone. What next, huh?

Thus, my conclusion is even if God run this company you still wouldn't have the guts to buy it.

KK is no longer in the Jet A1 business so come off it. MYOB.
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VituVingiSana
#3395 Posted : Wednesday, February 03, 2016 12:48:51 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Apart from the fact that your views on KQ ceased to matter, I'll tell you again. You're better off in the NGO world, unfortunately, you'll have to raise your volume higher now.

Kenya-Dutch partnership to migrate from aid
http://www.cnbcafrica.co...-ditch-partnership-aid/

Major changes have occurred at management level and you're still at it. The FD is gone. What next, huh?

Thus, my conclusion is even if God run this company you still wouldn't have the guts to buy it.

KK is no longer in the Jet A1 business so come off it. MYOB.


@Mono - Thank you for your kind words.

Please do patronize KenolKobil for all your fueling needs and we:

- provide competitive pricing [unlike an airline which must not be named]
- are in the black [your money on a K-Card is safe unlike an airline with negative equity who might fold up after you pay in advance for a ticket]
http://www.kenolkobil.co...ness-segments/fuel-card and just for you have an excellent tie-up with DTB http://www.kenolkobil.co...uel-management-solution
- are a Kenyan company [unlike an airline that KLM, IFC, banks own]
- profitable [KK made only KES 1.35bn PBT in 1H. know it's hard for KK to compete with a wonderful airline that lost only KES 12 billion in 6 months. How do we top that? Should we hire McKinsey? Or Seabury? Your advice will be appreciated.]
- have loyal customers despite our faults [Any advice on how we can keep them away because they just keep returning.]
- have paid dividends for FY 2014 and will for FY 2015 [unlike you know who. Are we mistaken in paying dividends?]
- pay taxes [How can we reverse this like an unnamed airline did? The smart folks not only didn't pay income taxes, they got themselves a bailout!]

We are still in the Jet A1 supply business. Of course, that airline has to pay in advance. Credit is only given to those worthy. The unnamed airline is worthy. We plan on extending credit to it. Tomorrow. Tomorrow Never Comes. http://www.kenolkobil.co...x.php/business-segments

If there is anything we can make your visit to our locations more pleasant, please let us know how. We want to serve all our paying customers with the best we can offer.

*Please fill up at KK. KQ to pay cash. Thank you. Come Again.*
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Cde Monomotapa
#3396 Posted : Wednesday, February 03, 2016 1:03:49 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Apart from the fact that your views on KQ ceased to matter, I'll tell you again. You're better off in the NGO world, unfortunately, you'll have to raise your volume higher now.

Kenya-Dutch partnership to migrate from aid
http://www.cnbcafrica.co...-ditch-partnership-aid/

Major changes have occurred at management level and you're still at it. The FD is gone. What next, huh?

Thus, my conclusion is even if God run this company you still wouldn't have the guts to buy it.

KK is no longer in the Jet A1 business so come off it. MYOB.


@Mono - Thank you for your kind words.

Please do patronize KenolKobil for all your fueling needs and we:

- provide competitive pricing [unlike an airline which must not be named]
- are in the black [your money on a K-Card is safe unlike an airline with negative equity who might fold up after you pay in advance for a ticket]
http://www.kenolkobil.co...ness-segments/fuel-card and just for you have an excellent tie-up with DTB http://www.kenolkobil.co...uel-management-solution
- are a Kenyan company [unlike an airline that KLM, IFC, banks own]
- profitable [KK made only KES 1.35bn PBT in 1H. know it's hard for KK to compete with a wonderful airline that lost only KES 12 billion in 6 months. How do we top that? Should we hire McKinsey? Or Seabury? Your advice will be appreciated.]
- have loyal customers despite our faults [Any advice on how we can keep them away because they just keep returning.]
- have paid dividends for FY 2014 and will for FY 2015 [unlike you know who. Are we mistaken in paying dividends?]
- pay taxes [How can we reverse this like an unnamed airline did? The smart folks not only didn't pay income taxes, they got themselves a bailout!]

We are still in the Jet A1 supply business. Of course, that airline has to pay in advance. Credit is only given to those worthy. The unnamed airline is worthy. We plan on extending credit to it. Tomorrow. Tomorrow Never Comes. http://www.kenolkobil.co...x.php/business-segments

If there is anything we can make your visit to our locations more pleasant, please let us know how. We want to serve all our paying customers with the best we can offer.

*Please fill up at KK. KQ to pay cash. Thank you. Come Again.*


Kind of you. Stay in touch with you. KK remains an inspiration smile

Spotlight on measures to return KQ to profitability
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obiero
#3397 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:03:20 AM
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in that k24 interview last week, Ngunze mentioned two important things, but if one is slow, u wouldnt notice :)
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#3398 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:26:07 AM
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obiero wrote:
in that k24 interview last week, Ngunze mentioned two important things, but if one is slow, u wouldnt notice :)


Two important things: easier said than done. No need of being quick to pick them up.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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VituVingiSana
#3399 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2016 9:24:13 AM
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obiero wrote:
in that k24 interview last week, Ngunze mentioned two important things, but if one is slow, u wouldnt notice :)

1) They fill up at KK.
2) They pay cash.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Swenani
#3400 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2016 9:51:07 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
in that k24 interview last week, Ngunze mentioned two important things, but if one is slow, u wouldnt notice :)

1) They fill up at KK.
2) They pay cash.

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