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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:KES 14.35 PBT, dividend KES 0.75 Is it from exchange bar? Indeed Thanks bro. No growth? That's over 50% year on year.. Even dividend is up 0.15 cents DPS 0.75 is impossible Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:KES 14.35 PBT, dividend KES 0.75 Is it from exchange bar? Indeed Thanks bro. No growth? That's over 50% year on year.. Even dividend is up 0.15 cents DPS 0.75 is impossible Why impossible when FY EPS is more than twice 0.75 kes? John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Kayole
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Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:KES 14.35 PBT, dividend KES 0.75 Is it from exchange bar? Indeed Thanks bro. No growth? That's over 50% year on year.. Even dividend is up 0.15 cents When will the results be made public?.Anything we hear is just rumours untill we get the company official results. @Ebenyo very true. No need discussing rumors. We await CEO Mugo official announcement KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:KES 14.35 PBT, dividend KES 0.75 Is it from exchange bar? Indeed Thanks bro. No growth? That's over 50% year on year.. Even dividend is up 0.15 cents DPS 0.75 is impossible Why impossible when FY EPS is more than twice 0.75 kes? 1. Need for capital 2. Historically low dividend payout Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Dividend at 75 cents per share means the company is paying out a total of sh.5bn as dividend Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2015 Posts: 151
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Is power imports from Ethiopia a viable idea? Considering, Ethiopia and the northern part of Kenya are relatively unstable. The infrastructure isn't fully developed too. To sum it all up, would we risk importing CHEAP power through unstable underdeveloped regions?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Ericsson wrote:Dividend at 75 cents per share means the company is paying out a total of sh.5bn as dividend A very huge jump from the 1.2B the company pays. I think they will pay DPS around 0.30 Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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MadDoc wrote:Is power imports from Ethiopia a viable idea? Considering, Ethiopia and the northern part of Kenya are relatively unstable. The infrastructure isn't fully developed too. To sum it all up, would we risk importing CHEAP power through unstable underdeveloped regions? This has nothing really to do with Kengen.. Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:Dividend at 75 cents per share means the company is paying out a total of sh.5bn as dividend A very huge jump from the 1.2B the company pays. I think they will pay DPS around 0.30 How much was paid last year HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Last year they paid a total of sh. 1.4bn in dividends Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2015 Posts: 151
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guru267 wrote:MadDoc wrote:Is power imports from Ethiopia a viable idea? Considering, Ethiopia and the northern part of Kenya are relatively unstable. The infrastructure isn't fully developed too. To sum it all up, would we risk importing CHEAP power through unstable underdeveloped regions? This has nothing really to do with Kengen.. Doesn't Kengen sell power to KPLC? Doesn't importing cheap hydro power hurt Kengen growth prospects? I'm looking at the viability of importing cheap power from Ethiopia. That's all.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Last year they paid a total of sh. 1.4bn in dividends Dividend per share obtained at the bar doesn't factor recent rights.. Adjust for the same at total payout of KES 1.75B HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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@Obiero That falls in the prediction of 30-35 cents Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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MadDoc wrote:guru267 wrote:MadDoc wrote:Is power imports from Ethiopia a viable idea? Considering, Ethiopia and the northern part of Kenya are relatively unstable. The infrastructure isn't fully developed too. To sum it all up, would we risk importing CHEAP power through unstable underdeveloped regions? This has nothing really to do with Kengen.. Doesn't Kengen sell power to KPLC? Doesn't importing cheap hydro power hurt Kengen growth prospects? I'm looking at the viability of importing cheap power from Ethiopia. That's all. Kengen will be exporting power in 5 years. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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http://www.thinkgeoenerg...al-development-in-kenya/John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Just had a dream that Kengen 2016 PAT will be down from last year Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2015 Posts: 151
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sparkly wrote:MadDoc wrote:guru267 wrote:MadDoc wrote:Is power imports from Ethiopia a viable idea? Considering, Ethiopia and the northern part of Kenya are relatively unstable. The infrastructure isn't fully developed too. To sum it all up, would we risk importing CHEAP power through unstable underdeveloped regions? This has nothing really to do with Kengen.. Doesn't Kengen sell power to KPLC? Doesn't importing cheap hydro power hurt Kengen growth prospects? I'm looking at the viability of importing cheap power from Ethiopia. That's all. Kengen will be exporting power in 5 years. The Grand Renaissance dam is due for completion next year. N it has a capacity of 6000mw. Even if the dam takes 7 years to fill, Ketraco is building high voltage transmission lines to Ethiopia. Ethiopia,s threat can't be underestimated. In 10 years, Kengen may be laden with debts. I was for Kengen but the future doesn't look rosy
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/10/2014 Posts: 969 Location: Kenya
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MadDoc wrote:sparkly wrote:MadDoc wrote:guru267 wrote:MadDoc wrote:Is power imports from Ethiopia a viable idea? Considering, Ethiopia and the northern part of Kenya are relatively unstable. The infrastructure isn't fully developed too. To sum it all up, would we risk importing CHEAP power through unstable underdeveloped regions? This has nothing really to do with Kengen.. Doesn't Kengen sell power to KPLC? Doesn't importing cheap hydro power hurt Kengen growth prospects? I'm looking at the viability of importing cheap power from Ethiopia. That's all. Kengen will be exporting power in 5 years. The Grand Renaissance dam is due for completion next year. N it has a capacity of 6000mw. Even if the dam takes 7 years to fill, Ketraco is building high voltage transmission lines to Ethiopia. Ethiopia,s threat can't be underestimated. In 10 years, Kengen may be laden with debts. I was for Kengen but the future doesn't look rosy But 6000MW is such a small amount of power assuming it will run at full capacity...Egypt alone needs over 30,000MW of power, so if Ethiopia is to get to that level and try to take over a bunch of industries from China that power wont be enough. Ethiopia has a huge population (100m+) with current demand of electricity sitting at 2300MW with just less than 30% electricity penetration. Another thing is that dam is already causing conflict with Egypt cause of water shortages, the main life line for Egypt. Kengen still has a strong future since Kenya Power will buy all the power and send it to Tanzania or Uganda. New high voltage line to Tanzania is being planned to be constructed. If Tz wont be a**holes at any point, its a win for Kengen.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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watesh wrote:MadDoc wrote:sparkly wrote:MadDoc wrote:guru267 wrote:MadDoc wrote:Is power imports from Ethiopia a viable idea? Considering, Ethiopia and the northern part of Kenya are relatively unstable. The infrastructure isn't fully developed too. To sum it all up, would we risk importing CHEAP power through unstable underdeveloped regions? This has nothing really to do with Kengen.. Doesn't Kengen sell power to KPLC? Doesn't importing cheap hydro power hurt Kengen growth prospects? I'm looking at the viability of importing cheap power from Ethiopia. That's all. Kengen will be exporting power in 5 years. The Grand Renaissance dam is due for completion next year. N it has a capacity of 6000mw. Even if the dam takes 7 years to fill, Ketraco is building high voltage transmission lines to Ethiopia. Ethiopia,s threat can't be underestimated. In 10 years, Kengen may be laden with debts. I was for Kengen but the future doesn't look rosy But 6000MW is such a small amount of power assuming it will run at full capacity...Egypt alone needs over 30,000MW of power, so if Ethiopia is to get to that level and try to take over a bunch of industries from China that power wont be enough. Ethiopia has a huge population (100m+) with current demand of electricity sitting at 2300MW with just less than 30% electricity penetration. Another thing is that dam is already causing conflict with Egypt cause of water shortages, the main life line for Egypt. Kengen still has a strong future since Kenya Power will buy all the power and send it to Tanzania or Uganda. New high voltage line to Tanzania is being planned to be constructed. If Tz wont be a**holes at any point, its a win for Kengen. Nice points but tz will always and remain assholes
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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watesh wrote:MadDoc wrote:sparkly wrote:MadDoc wrote:guru267 wrote:MadDoc wrote:Is power imports from Ethiopia a viable idea? Considering, Ethiopia and the northern part of Kenya are relatively unstable. The infrastructure isn't fully developed too. To sum it all up, would we risk importing CHEAP power through unstable underdeveloped regions? This has nothing really to do with Kengen.. Doesn't Kengen sell power to KPLC? Doesn't importing cheap hydro power hurt Kengen growth prospects? I'm looking at the viability of importing cheap power from Ethiopia. That's all. Kengen will be exporting power in 5 years. The Grand Renaissance dam is due for completion next year. N it has a capacity of 6000mw. Even if the dam takes 7 years to fill, Ketraco is building high voltage transmission lines to Ethiopia. Ethiopia,s threat can't be underestimated. In 10 years, Kengen may be laden with debts. I was for Kengen but the future doesn't look rosy But 6000MW is such a small amount of power assuming it will run at full capacity...Egypt alone needs over 30,000MW of power, so if Ethiopia is to get to that level and try to take over a bunch of industries from China that power wont be enough. Ethiopia has a huge population (100m+) with current demand of electricity sitting at 2300MW with just less than 30% electricity penetration. Another thing is that dam is already causing conflict with Egypt cause of water shortages, the main life line for Egypt. Kengen still has a strong future since Kenya Power will buy all the power and send it to Tanzania or Uganda. New high voltage line to Tanzania is being planned to be constructed. If Tz wont be a**holes at any point, its a win for Kengen. FOCUS!!! Stick to the low-hanging fruit. 1) It's highly unlikely that Ethiopia can in the medium-term get to Egypt's level of manufacturing. Plenty of "excess" to export. 2) Ethiopia has the Gibe Dam(s) which could supply Kenya. 3) No-one gives a crap about the outdated Nile Treaty that favors Egypt. They can't invade Ethiopia. Let them try. Heck, even UG is building dams on the White Nile. Even Kenya wants to exploit the rivers feeding into L. Victoria. 4) The Egyptians need to practice family planning - China style. 5) UG will be self-sufficient in the medium (5-yr) term with new dams coming online. 6) TZ can also be self-sufficient in the medium (10 years) term with new LNG plants. Plus they have some good hydro potential. KenGen's primary market remains KENYA. Exports for KenGen will not be a huge % of their sales. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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