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KenyaRe FY19 - FY23 (Both Inclusive)
Ericsson
#641 Posted : Friday, May 07, 2021 10:49:36 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
New date in my head is 15 May 2021.
And ready to extend it to 30 May 2021.

At least the AGM can be held "early" since they do not need to rent/hire Bomas/KICC since the AGM will be virtual. No need to plan for tents, gifts, food, etc for 1000s of shareholders.

I hope they announce a dividend but given COVID I am not banking on it anymore. If they do, pay it out pap!


Last year results was released on 28th March.I wonder why it has taken so long this time.The squabble in the board concerning Mwarania seems not to be over.
COVID? New Auditor General?

New Auditor General dealing with backlog that occurred when the office was vacant.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#642 Posted : Friday, May 07, 2021 10:54:32 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
New date in my head is 15 May 2021.
And ready to extend it to 30 May 2021.

At least the AGM can be held "early" since they do not need to rent/hire Bomas/KICC since the AGM will be virtual. No need to plan for tents, gifts, food, etc for 1000s of shareholders.

I hope they announce a dividend but given COVID I am not banking on it anymore. If they do, pay it out pap!




Last year results was released on 28th March.I wonder why it has taken so long this time.The squabble in the board concerning Mwarania seems not to be over.

Remember last year they were given leeway to release unaudited FY results but couldn't pay dividends till the financial statements were audited by the Auditor General.
Dividend was paid in November.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#643 Posted : Friday, May 07, 2021 5:02:20 PM
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Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kenya Reinsurance has put a tender for sale of Reinsurance Plaza Kisumu.
Reserve price Ksh.1 billion
Applause Applause Applause Sell and pay a dividend Applause Are there buyers at that price in this market?


The rich Indians from Kisumu or government though the process may take time to conclude.

Part of the proceeds may also be used to put up their new commercial building (twin towers) in Upper Hill
There are many rich Luos who can buy it. Applause

Using the proceeds to build a new commercial building in Upper Hill, in the near future, would be STUPID and CRIMINAL. Shame on you

The proceeds should be invested in the stock market if the prices remain low. The best is to pay out a dividend. Next best is a share buyback.



https://www.businessdail...insurance-plaza-3299332

@vvs.
There you have it;
""The reason (for sale) is strategic reinvestment," Kenya Re chief executive Jadiah Mwaraniah said in response to the Business Daily queries without divulging further details."

They will not use the proceeds to payout a dividend and highly unlikely stocks.



The main shareholder(GOK) with 60%,is in distress of cash for referendum,budget 2021/2022 and general election 2022.They could be pushing to get this cash.
They pushed safaricom to declare an interim dividend.

https://www.businessdail...rastatals-money-3296618

Can't rely on this since they ain't sure they will get a buyer.
Safaricom is a different case since it doesn't have financial regulatory compliances

Kenya Re is over-capitalized for the size of its business.
It is earning low returns on its cash (deposits, T-Bills).
The sale of the property is a matter for 2021.
The dividend is for FY2020.

BUT the IRA can block a dividend.



Property portfolio is more than 30% of its total assets.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#644 Posted : Saturday, May 08, 2021 12:45:35 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
New date in my head is 15 May 2021.
And ready to extend it to 30 May 2021.

At least the AGM can be held "early" since they do not need to rent/hire Bomas/KICC since the AGM will be virtual. No need to plan for tents, gifts, food, etc for 1000s of shareholders.

I hope they announce a dividend but given COVID I am not banking on it anymore. If they do, pay it out pap!


Last year results was released on 28th March.I wonder why it has taken so long this time.The squabble in the board concerning Mwarania seems not to be over.
COVID? New Auditor General?


Delay in releasing the FY results causing a slump in share price
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#645 Posted : Tuesday, May 11, 2021 9:17:59 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
New date in my head is 15 May 2021.
And ready to extend it to 30 May 2021.

At least the AGM can be held "early" since they do not need to rent/hire Bomas/KICC since the AGM will be virtual. No need to plan for tents, gifts, food, etc for 1000s of shareholders.

I hope they announce a dividend but given COVID I am not banking on it anymore. If they do, pay it out pap!


Last year results was released on 28th March.I wonder why it has taken so long this time.The squabble in the board concerning Mwarania seems not to be over.
COVID? New Auditor General?

Delay is due to change in actuarial valuation methodology in respect to Unearned Premium Reserves and claims reserves to an approach recommended by Insurance Regulatory Authority of Kenya.
This was to ensure regulatory compliance in reserving for both unearned premiums and claims by the corporation.
Every effort is being exerted to have the results released before 31 May 2021.


https://mobile.twitter.c...2009163862155265/photo/1
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#646 Posted : Tuesday, May 11, 2021 7:31:15 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,103
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]New date in my head is 15 May 2021.
And ready to extend it to 30 May 2021.

At least the AGM can be held "early" since they do not need to rent/hire Bomas/KICC since the AGM will be virtual. No need to plan for tents, gifts, food, etc for 1000s of shareholders.

I hope they announce a dividend but given COVID I am not banking on it anymore. If they do, pay it out pap!


Last year results was released on 28th March.I wonder why it has taken so long this time.The squabble in the board concerning Mwarania seems not to be over.
COVID? New Auditor General?

Delay is due to change in actuarial valuation methodology in respect to Unearned Premium Reserves and claims reserves to an approach recommended by Insurance Regulatory Authority of Kenya.
This was to ensure regulatory compliance in reserving for both unearned premiums and claims by the corporation.
Every effort is being exerted to have the results released before 31 May 2021.


https://mobile.twitter.c...009163862155265/photo/1[/quote] 31st May 2021 it is.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#647 Posted : Monday, May 24, 2021 8:33:54 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
AM Best Credit Ratings agency says although Kenya Re has not yet released financial results for year-end 2020, it anticipates that underwriting performance will have improved materially compared with the prior year, when the company reported a combined ratio of 117.5%.

Am Best says outside Kenya where it gets compulsory 20% cession of business from local insurers, its competitive position is significantly weaker in other markets.

Am Best says outside Kenya where it gets compulsory 20% cession of business from local insurers, its competitive position is significantly weaker in other markets.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#648 Posted : Friday, May 28, 2021 9:15:20 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]New date in my head is 15 May 2021.
And ready to extend it to 30 May 2021.

At least the AGM can be held "early" since they do not need to rent/hire Bomas/KICC since the AGM will be virtual. No need to plan for tents, gifts, food, etc for 1000s of shareholders.

I hope they announce a dividend but given COVID I am not banking on it anymore. If they do, pay it out pap!


Last year results was released on 28th March.I wonder why it has taken so long this time.The squabble in the board concerning Mwarania seems not to be over.
COVID? New Auditor General?

Delay is due to change in actuarial valuation methodology in respect to Unearned Premium Reserves and claims reserves to an approach recommended by Insurance Regulatory Authority of Kenya.
This was to ensure regulatory compliance in reserving for both unearned premiums and claims by the corporation.
Every effort is being exerted to have the results released before 31 May 2021.


https://mobile.twitter.c...009163862155265/photo/1[/quote] 31st May 2021 it is.


Kenya Re is waiting for greenlight from its auditors EY to release the results
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#649 Posted : Monday, May 31, 2021 7:25:12 PM
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Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
Ebenyo wrote:
Last year the dividend was 0.10.
They can afford 0.20 this year.


With the way FY2020 results have delayed,I project no change in dividend
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ebenyo
#650 Posted : Monday, May 31, 2021 10:15:34 PM
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Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 1,997
Location: Kitale
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Last year the dividend was 0.10.
They can afford 0.20 this year.


With the way FY2020 results have delayed,I project no change in dividend


I thought the deadline was today.So it seems it will take longer.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
VituVingiSana
#651 Posted : Tuesday, June 01, 2021 3:01:13 AM
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No results and it's already June!

Disappointing.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#652 Posted : Tuesday, June 01, 2021 7:09:55 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
No results and it's already June!

Disappointing.


Kenya Re 2020 results:

- Gross written premiums up 5.7%
- Net earned premiums up 34.2%
- Claims incurred up 21.7%
- Cedant acquisition costs up 29.8%
- Profit b4 tax down 4.6%
- Total Assets up 5.7%
- Dividend of Kshs. 0.20 (DPR:20%)
Book closure 30 June 2021
Payment date 13 August 2021

Registration for the AGM opens on 2 June and closes on Monday 28 June at 11am
Link to the full results;
https://mwangocapital.fi...021/06/kenya-re-2020.pdf
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#653 Posted : Tuesday, June 01, 2021 2:47:05 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,516
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
No results and it's already June!

Disappointing.


Kenya Re 2020 results:

- Gross written premiums up 5.7%
- Net earned premiums up 34.2%
- Claims incurred up 21.7%
- Cedant acquisition costs up 29.8%
- Profit b4 tax down 4.6%
- Total Assets up 5.7%
- Dividend of Kshs. 0.20 (DPR:20%)
Book closure 30 June 2021
Payment date 13 August 2021

Registration for the AGM opens on 2 June and closes on Monday 28 June at 11am
Link to the full results;
https://mwangocapital.fi...21/06/kenya-re-2020.pdf

That dividend yield is decent. Not interested though, because of the trap

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ebenyo
#654 Posted : Tuesday, June 01, 2021 3:16:08 PM
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Posts: 1,997
Location: Kitale
Ericsson wrote:
[quote=Ebenyo]Last year the dividend was 0.10.
They can afford 0.20 this year.




I said it and they have done so!
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Ericsson
#655 Posted : Wednesday, June 02, 2021 12:40:40 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
No results and it's already June!

Disappointing.


Kenya Re 2020 results:

- Gross written premiums up 5.7%
- Net earned premiums up 34.2%
- Claims incurred up 21.7%
- Cedant acquisition costs up 29.8%
- Profit b4 tax down 4.6%
- Total Assets up 5.7%
- Dividend of Kshs. 0.20 (DPR:20%)
Book closure 30 June 2021
Payment date 13 August 2021

Registration for the AGM opens on 2 June and closes on Monday 28 June at 11am
Link to the full results;
https://mwangocapital.fi...21/06/kenya-re-2020.pdf

That dividend yield is decent. Not interested though, because of the trap



It's a better counter compared to KQ and HFCK.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#656 Posted : Wednesday, June 02, 2021 1:07:04 PM
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Posts: 10,684
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Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
[quote=Ebenyo]Last year the dividend was 0.10.
They can afford 0.20 this year.




I said it and they have done so!


They shouldn't go below ksh.0.20.
The DPS should be at that level at worse or go higher.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Queen
#657 Posted : Wednesday, June 02, 2021 1:21:22 PM
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Joined: 11/21/2018
Posts: 564
Location: Britain
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
No results and it's already June!

Disappointing.


Kenya Re 2020 results:

- Gross written premiums up 5.7%
- Net earned premiums up 34.2%
- Claims incurred up 21.7%
- Cedant acquisition costs up 29.8%
- Profit b4 tax down 4.6%
- Total Assets up 5.7%
- Dividend of Kshs. 0.20 (DPR:20%)
Book closure 30 June 2021
Payment date 13 August 2021

Registration for the AGM opens on 2 June and closes on Monday 28 June at 11am
Link to the full results;
https://mwangocapital.fi...21/06/kenya-re-2020.pdf

That dividend yield is decent. Not interested though, because of the trap



It's a better counter compared to KQ and HFCK.


A taller dwarf compared to those other two dwarfs.
VituVingiSana
#658 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2021 1:55:42 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,103
Location: Nairobi
Queen wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
No results and it's already June!

Disappointing.


Kenya Re 2020 results:

- Gross written premiums up 5.7%
- Net earned premiums up 34.2%
- Claims incurred up 21.7%
- Cedant acquisition costs up 29.8%
- Profit b4 tax down 4.6%
- Total Assets up 5.7%
- Dividend of Kshs. 0.20 (DPR:20%)
Book closure 30 June 2021
Payment date 13 August 2021

Registration for the AGM opens on 2 June and closes on Monday 28 June at 11am
Link to the full results;
https://mwangocapital.fi...21/06/kenya-re-2020.pdf

That dividend yield is decent. Not interested though, because of the trap


It's a better counter compared to KQ and HFCK.


A taller dwarf compared to those other two dwarfs.

The results are quite good under the circumstances. From the earlier press release it seems KenyaRe might have had take some additional hits/provisions relating to new rules/IFRS.

I am waiting to read the Chairman and CEO's letters.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#659 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2021 2:46:48 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Queen wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
No results and it's already June!

Disappointing.


Kenya Re 2020 results:

- Gross written premiums up 5.7%
- Net earned premiums up 34.2%
- Claims incurred up 21.7%
- Cedant acquisition costs up 29.8%
- Profit b4 tax down 4.6%
- Total Assets up 5.7%
- Dividend of Kshs. 0.20 (DPR:20%)
Book closure 30 June 2021
Payment date 13 August 2021

Registration for the AGM opens on 2 June and closes on Monday 28 June at 11am
Link to the full results;
https://mwangocapital.fi...21/06/kenya-re-2020.pdf

That dividend yield is decent. Not interested though, because of the trap


It's a better counter compared to KQ and HFCK.


A taller dwarf compared to those other two dwarfs.

The results are quite good under the circumstances. From the earlier press release it seems KenyaRe might have had take some additional hits/provisions relating to new rules/IFRS.

I am waiting to read the Chairman and CEO's letters.


Plus the details in the annual report.
Investment income on revaluation of properties got a beating.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#660 Posted : Tuesday, June 08, 2021 1:30:23 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,103
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Queen wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
No results and it's already June!

Disappointing.


Kenya Re 2020 results:

- Gross written premiums up 5.7%
- Net earned premiums up 34.2%
- Claims incurred up 21.7%
- Cedant acquisition costs up 29.8%
- Profit b4 tax down 4.6%
- Total Assets up 5.7%
- Dividend of Kshs. 0.20 (DPR:20%)
Book closure 30 June 2021
Payment date 13 August 2021

Registration for the AGM opens on 2 June and closes on Monday 28 June at 11am
Link to the full results;
https://mwangocapital.fi...21/06/kenya-re-2020.pdf

That dividend yield is decent. Not interested though, because of the trap


It's a better counter compared to KQ and HFCK.


A taller dwarf compared to those other two dwarfs.

The results are quite good under the circumstances. From the earlier press release it seems KenyaRe might have had take some additional hits/provisions relating to new rules/IFRS.

I am waiting to read the Chairman and CEO's letters.


Plus the details in the annual report.
Investment income on revaluation of properties got a beating.
About time KenyaRe got real about property valuations. I always discount these when I do my analysis.

- Kisumu property for sale at 1bn but no offers it seems.
- Vacancies in existing properties due to COVID and other reasons.
- CMA looking to move
- Upper Hill plot is dead in the water for now.

There wasn't much of a FV loss in 2020 in the accounts but in reality it should have been much higher.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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