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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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The 310 ,,,,, 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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Sasa jamani what is there to be disgusted about ? Willing buyer willing seller. Hakuna aliyelazimishwa kutoa sadaka ya 310. On the flip side, your buttoned up 'mainstream' pastors are demanding 10% of your income while threatening you with dire consequences if you fail to comply because you are robbing God... What is more disgusting ?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Mtu Biz wrote:
Sasa jamani what is there to be disgusted about ?
Willing buyer willing seller. Hakuna aliyelazimishwa kutoa sadaka ya 310.
On the flip side, your buttoned up 'mainstream' pastors are demanding 10% of your income while threatening you with dire consequences if you fail to comply because you are robbing God...
What is more disgusting ?
Its failing to see the plank in ones eye.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Kanyari said there are different kinds of pastors around. He was categorical that he prays for you (and your money) so that you can enjoy your life here on earth, and you have to panda mbegu for that. He said that if your interest is to lead a happy life in heaven when you die, then there are pastors who specialize on that. That one is free to choose roho safi.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Muriel wrote:The 310 ,,,,, Tereren tereren ,,,,
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Mtu Biz wrote:
Sasa jamani what is there to be disgusted about ?
Willing buyer willing seller. Hakuna aliyelazimishwa kutoa sadaka ya 310.
On the flip side, your buttoned up 'mainstream' pastors are demanding 10% of your income while threatening you with dire consequences if you fail to comply because you are robbing God...
What is more disgusting ?
Mtu Biz, Be it Kiuna or Kanyari: 1. the environment and the frame of mind in which the scene took place was not the best in which to put these things in their most clear light. 2. consequently, conscience being numbed through mirth and laughter gives no reassurance that the participants now have the increased inclination to (re)consider these things as they are supposed to be. 3. Because any awakened conscience was quickly subdued it would be interesting to note if there has been a change, any change, among the participants especially those whose consciences were aroused just enough to raise their hands or wallets to pray. These are the ones who recognised this thing even if they did not comprehend. 4. This is This is mockery to the power being subscribed to. This is classic de-evangelisation. Scattering instead of gathering. The gatherers are not unreasonable to be concerned about the scatterers. Actually, is it not their mission to call the sheep out of Babylon?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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Muriel wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:
Sasa jamani what is there to be disgusted about ?
Willing buyer willing seller. Hakuna aliyelazimishwa kutoa sadaka ya 310.
On the flip side, your buttoned up 'mainstream' pastors are demanding 10% of your income while threatening you with dire consequences if you fail to comply because you are robbing God...
What is more disgusting ?
Mtu Biz, Be it Kiuna or Kanyari: 1. the environment and the frame of mind in which the scene took place was not the best in which to put these things in their most clear light. 2. consequently, conscience being numbed through mirth and laughter gives no reassurance that the participants now have the increased inclination to (re)consider these things as they are supposed to be. 3. Because any awakened conscience was quickly subdued it would be interesting to note if there has been a change, any change, among the participants especially those whose consciences were aroused just enough to raise their hands or wallets to pray. These are the ones who recognised this thing even if they did not comprehend. 4. This is This is mockery to the power being subscribed to. This is classic de-evangelisation. Scattering instead of gathering. The gatherers are not unreasonable to be concerned about the scatterers. Actually, is it not their mission to call the sheep out of Babylon? My brother... Have you considered that those you are calling scatters are playing a most crucial role in the maturing of the ones in whom there is truth ? The power being subscribed to by Kanyari is a smokescreen... it is only real to those who are in the process of being shown practically that indeed there is nothing there. Kanyari is a vaccine. A necessary one at that.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Mtu Biz wrote:Muriel wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:
Sasa jamani what is there to be disgusted about ?
Willing buyer willing seller. Hakuna aliyelazimishwa kutoa sadaka ya 310.
On the flip side, your buttoned up 'mainstream' pastors are demanding 10% of your income while threatening you with dire consequences if you fail to comply because you are robbing God...
What is more disgusting ?
Mtu Biz, Be it Kiuna or Kanyari: 1. the environment and the frame of mind in which the scene took place was not the best in which to put these things in their most clear light. 2. consequently, conscience being numbed through mirth and laughter gives no reassurance that the participants now have the increased inclination to (re)consider these things as they are supposed to be. 3. Because any awakened conscience was quickly subdued it would be interesting to note if there has been a change, any change, among the participants especially those whose consciences were aroused just enough to raise their hands or wallets to pray. These are the ones who recognised this thing even if they did not comprehend. 4. This is This is mockery to the power being subscribed to. This is classic de-evangelisation. Scattering instead of gathering. The gatherers are not unreasonable to be concerned about the scatterers. Actually, is it not their mission to call the sheep out of Babylon? My brother... Have you considered that those you are calling scatters are playing a most crucial role in the maturing of the ones in whom there is truth ? The power being subscribed to by Kanyari is a smokescreen... it is only real to those who are in the process of being shown practically that indeed there is nothing there. Kanyari is a vaccine. A necessary one at that. I see your point. Had not seen it so. Ah! Yes, brother. Experience is the best teacher. But some students are just something. They never learn. Ole wao.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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Muriel wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:Muriel wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:
Sasa jamani what is there to be disgusted about ?
Willing buyer willing seller. Hakuna aliyelazimishwa kutoa sadaka ya 310.
On the flip side, your buttoned up 'mainstream' pastors are demanding 10% of your income while threatening you with dire consequences if you fail to comply because you are robbing God...
What is more disgusting ?
Mtu Biz, Be it Kiuna or Kanyari: 1. the environment and the frame of mind in which the scene took place was not the best in which to put these things in their most clear light. 2. consequently, conscience being numbed through mirth and laughter gives no reassurance that the participants now have the increased inclination to (re)consider these things as they are supposed to be. 3. Because any awakened conscience was quickly subdued it would be interesting to note if there has been a change, any change, among the participants especially those whose consciences were aroused just enough to raise their hands or wallets to pray. These are the ones who recognised this thing even if they did not comprehend. 4. This is This is mockery to the power being subscribed to. This is classic de-evangelisation. Scattering instead of gathering. The gatherers are not unreasonable to be concerned about the scatterers. Actually, is it not their mission to call the sheep out of Babylon? My brother... Have you considered that those you are calling scatters are playing a most crucial role in the maturing of the ones in whom there is truth ? The power being subscribed to by Kanyari is a smokescreen... it is only real to those who are in the process of being shown practically that indeed there is nothing there. Kanyari is a vaccine. A necessary one at that. I see your point. Had not seen it so. Ah! Yes, brother. Experience is the best teacher. But some students are just something. They never learn. Ole wao. There is no us and them.... we are in the same school.. taking different courses at different times..passing and failing as we go.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Mtu Biz wrote:
There is no us and them.... we are in the same school.. taking different courses at different times..passing and failing as we go.
I am of the opinion that there is no continuum. There is a clear cut demarcation line. There is no fence-sitting or 'singularity'. Indeed, there is 'us' and there is 'them'. This is not to be confused with the freedom of movement to and from either side.
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