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Crazy Nairobi traffic!!
Mike Ock
#601 Posted : Sunday, December 02, 2018 4:01:29 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Expect crazy traffic kesho if county govt follows up on its directive. No mats allowed in town. Jogoo road mats to terminate at Muthurwa, Thika rd, Kiambu rd, limuru rd & Waiyaki way mats to pick n drop passengers at Fig tree Ngara. Ngong road mats at Railways.

Since the commuter living along Ngong road and working along Thika Rd will find it hard to walk from railways to Fig tree, expect more weekend drivers on the roads!

Also, I hear parking fee is down to 200 bob


This is dumb populist policy aimed at earning some fake points with mwananchi in the name of appearing to be working. Any smart urban planner knows that public transit is the solution to traffic. Private cars carrying one passenger each are the problem. No way this sticks for anything more than a few days.
Shak
#602 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 8:29:29 AM
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Mike Ock wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Expect crazy traffic kesho if county govt follows up on its directive. No mats allowed in town. Jogoo road mats to terminate at Muthurwa, Thika rd, Kiambu rd, limuru rd & Waiyaki way mats to pick n drop passengers at Fig tree Ngara. Ngong road mats at Railways.

Since the commuter living along Ngong road and working along Thika Rd will find it hard to walk from railways to Fig tree, expect more weekend drivers on the roads!

Also, I hear parking fee is down to 200 bob


This is dumb populist policy aimed at earning some fake points with mwananchi in the name of appearing to be working. Any smart urban planner knows that public transit is the solution to traffic. Private cars carrying one passenger each are the problem. No way this sticks for anything more than a few days.


Have they even considered how this policy affects the sick, elderly, pregnant women and PWDs? Totally insensitive
Iganamagana
#603 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 8:46:58 AM
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Shak wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Expect crazy traffic kesho if county govt follows up on its directive. No mats allowed in town. Jogoo road mats to terminate at Muthurwa, Thika rd, Kiambu rd, limuru rd & Waiyaki way mats to pick n drop passengers at Fig tree Ngara. Ngong road mats at Railways.

Since the commuter living along Ngong road and working along Thika Rd will find it hard to walk from railways to Fig tree, expect more weekend drivers on the roads!

Also, I hear parking fee is down to 200 bob


This is dumb populist policy aimed at earning some fake points with mwananchi in the name of appearing to be working. Any smart urban planner knows that public transit is the solution to traffic. Private cars carrying one passenger each are the problem. No way this sticks for anything more than a few days.


Have they even considered how this policy affects the sick, elderly, pregnant women and PWDs? Totally insensitive


Do they even care?
kaka2za
#604 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 8:53:48 AM
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How City of London Solved the problem:
1. Introduction of High capacity Buses with dedicated lanes
2. Underground train system
3. Hiking of parking fees

And how Sonko intends to solve the problem:
1. Continued licensing of 14 seaters
2. lowering of parking fees
3. Restriction on standing passengers on circular/diametric routes thus making investment on high capacity buses unattractive

Result:

With the chaos in the Public service sector and lowering of parking fees people will opt to use their personal vehicles thus exacerbating congestion.
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KulaRaha
#605 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 10:07:16 AM
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In Kenya, all rules/laws are passed looking the convenience of those passing them, not the people.

CBD removal of matatus only helps Sonko and his idiots...they drive into the CBD and now will find parking etc.

Also, the reduction to 200/= again helps them.

Kenyan politicians don't do anything for the good of the people. Ever.

Kumira kumira...
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
alma1
#606 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 10:26:49 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
In Kenya, all rules/laws are passed looking the convenience of those passing them, not the people.

CBD removal of matatus only helps Sonko and his idiots...they drive into the CBD and now will find parking etc.

Also, the reduction to 200/= again helps them.

Kenyan politicians don't do anything for the good of the people. Ever.

Kumira kumira...


Unahurumia mkenya kwa nini?

As you can see clearly a lot of people in Nairobi walk...But they vote Sonko...

Let them walk.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

KulaRaha
#607 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 10:32:37 AM
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alma1 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
In Kenya, all rules/laws are passed looking the convenience of those passing them, not the people.

CBD removal of matatus only helps Sonko and his idiots...they drive into the CBD and now will find parking etc.

Also, the reduction to 200/= again helps them.

Kenyan politicians don't do anything for the good of the people. Ever.

Kumira kumira...


Unahurumia mkenya kwa nini?

As you can see clearly a lot of people in Nairobi walk...But they vote Sonko...

Let them walk.


Agreed 100%

Walking is good for health.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Shak
#608 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 10:50:49 AM
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kaka2za
#609 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 11:54:05 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
alma1 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
In Kenya, all rules/laws are passed looking the convenience of those passing them, not the people.

CBD removal of matatus only helps Sonko and his idiots...they drive into the CBD and now will find parking etc.

Also, the reduction to 200/= again helps them.

Kenyan politicians don't do anything for the good of the people. Ever.

Kumira kumira...


Unahurumia mkenya kwa nini?

As you can see clearly a lot of people in Nairobi walk...But they vote Sonko...

Let them walk.


Agreed 100%

Walking is good for health.


Not everyone can walk.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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KulaRaha
#610 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 12:49:22 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
alma1 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
In Kenya, all rules/laws are passed looking the convenience of those passing them, not the people.

CBD removal of matatus only helps Sonko and his idiots...they drive into the CBD and now will find parking etc.

Also, the reduction to 200/= again helps them.

Kenyan politicians don't do anything for the good of the people. Ever.

Kumira kumira...


Unahurumia mkenya kwa nini?

As you can see clearly a lot of people in Nairobi walk...But they vote Sonko...

Let them walk.


Agreed 100%

Walking is good for health.


Not everyone can walk.


If you can't walk, you should drive. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
kaka2za
#611 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 1:06:40 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
alma1 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
In Kenya, all rules/laws are passed looking the convenience of those passing them, not the people.

CBD removal of matatus only helps Sonko and his idiots...they drive into the CBD and now will find parking etc.

Also, the reduction to 200/= again helps them.

Kenyan politicians don't do anything for the good of the people. Ever.

Kumira kumira...


Unahurumia mkenya kwa nini?

As you can see clearly a lot of people in Nairobi walk...But they vote Sonko...

Let them walk.


Agreed 100%

Walking is good for health.


Not everyone can walk.


If you can't walk, you should drive. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Can't walk and can't afford even a ngirimiti
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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murchr
#612 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 1:53:02 PM
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There are so many options available, walk, uber/taxi, train to railways, move out of Nairobi and get work in other towns. These matatus are so noisy and smoky I wonder how people with offices in the CBD concentrate.
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Bigchick
#613 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 2:14:49 PM
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Afew days of this mess and a super solution will evolve.
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kaka2za
#614 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 2:32:11 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
Afew days of this mess and a super solution will evolve.


Uhunye will make a populist directive soon and we will be back to sq one.
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Fyatu
#615 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 2:36:45 PM
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Banning matatus from CBD has exposed how dirty and filthy Moi avenue,Tom MBoya and a host of streets/lanes/alleys east of Tom Mboya street are....clearly Nairobi as a city in Africa is grossly overrated and Mombasa is way much cleaner and neater(Joho is not a looser afterall).

Nairobians should not complain and instead gorge themselves in diesel free air and relatively safer and de-congested streets.The time is nigh for establishing a new capital city with proper housing and transport infrastucture because there is no land in Nairobi. All land is in private hands...
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hardwood
#616 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 2:42:02 PM
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The biggest cause of traffic jams in nairobi is personal cars. A private car carrying one person takes the same road space as a matatu ferrying 14 plus people. Thus we need more matatus in the CBD and fewer personal cars. Infact personal cars should be banned from the CBD.

alma1
#617 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 2:45:54 PM
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Kenya is the only country in the world where Public Transport is banned in the City Center and Private Cars are charged the lowest.

Amazing stuff.

I am waiting for one day...It shall rain in Nairobi, at 5pm...I can't even imagine the chaos on that day.

lakini...kumira kumira.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

maka
#618 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 2:47:44 PM
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hardwood wrote:
The biggest cause of traffic jams in nairobi is personal cars. A private car carrying one person takes the same road space as a matatu ferrying 14 plus people. Thus we need more matatus in the CBD and fewer personal cars. Infact personal cars should be banned from the CBD.




Thats very ok....But not the matatus we have.... Lets change the whole setup...So many people wouldnt be driving to work or for maraundi....
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Thitifini
#619 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 2:54:41 PM
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maka wrote:
hardwood wrote:
The biggest cause of traffic jams in nairobi is personal cars. A private car carrying one person takes the same road space as a matatu ferrying 14 plus people. Thus we need more matatus in the CBD and fewer personal cars. Infact personal cars should be banned from the CBD.




Thats very ok....But not the matatus we have.... Lets change the whole setup...So many people wouldnt be driving to work or for maraundi....


Ile traffic jam itakuwanga tao sasa!

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madollar
#620 Posted : Monday, December 03, 2018 3:00:21 PM
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This is the most effective way of taking out competition .In the long term Saccos like citti hoppa will not survive this apart from access to CBD kencom as a termini could be considered a gold mine to players in that industry.Given at some point their will be buses crisscrossing the city who will own them
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