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sparkly
#3011 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:39:14 AM
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obiero wrote:


We are ready for the temporary losses. Soon we shall reach the desired place @maka @spikes @aguy @afroblk @muganda.. People have a new profession in bashing KQ, but they dont bother to tell you operating loss went down by KES 8.3B and that the loss before income tax actually narrowed marginally prior to consideration of the tax expense, noting last year KRA gave in a huge tax credit of backdated sums.. A trying period, but all is not lost. The writing is on the wall..


The figures tell a story. The story that KQ will be in trouble for a long long time.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#3012 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:02:59 AM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:


We are ready for the temporary losses. Soon we shall reach the desired place @maka @spikes @aguy @afroblk @muganda.. People have a new profession in bashing KQ, but they dont bother to tell you operating loss went down by KES 8.3B and that the loss before income tax actually narrowed marginally prior to consideration of the tax expense, noting last year KRA gave in a huge tax credit of backdated sums.. A trying period, but all is not lost. The writing is on the wall..


The figures tell a story. The story that KQ will be in trouble for a long long time.

Let us review in exactly five months, I have reason to believe the worst is behind us. Todays top gainer??
COOP, IMH, KQ, MTNU
VituVingiSana
#3013 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:37:38 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:


We are ready for the temporary losses. Soon we shall reach the desired place @maka @spikes @aguy @afroblk @muganda.. People have a new profession in bashing KQ, but they dont bother to tell you operating loss went down by KES 8.3B and that the loss before income tax actually narrowed marginally prior to consideration of the tax expense, noting last year KRA gave in a huge tax credit of backdated sums.. A trying period, but all is not lost. The writing is on the wall..


Warren Buffett's rules for investing:
1) Do not lose money.
2) Follow Rule #1

Yes, you are right. The writing is on the wall. B-A-N-K-R-U-P-T-C-Y ...

1. WALMART: Buffet USD 390M loss
2. IBM: Buffet USD 500m loss
3. TESCO: Buffet USD 750m loss
Cynthia Nyamai cannot warrant my attention. She is part of the crew that laid siege at KQ, with Naikuni.. www.kenyanbachelor.blogs...ge-her-cheating.html?m=1

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! I have no idea about any dalliances pale KQ lakini losses I know about! Ahem, Warren Buffett runs a firm with a POSITIVE Shareholders' Equity. And his firm makes a profit unlike KQ. And has made profits for the past 3 years unlike KQ. And Berkshire is expected to make a profit this year too unlike you-know-who. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#3014 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 6:16:29 PM
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the dust shall settle upon full year results.. people like @vvs should read on how Sunil Shah made it to billionaire status.. buy when there is fear. never move with the crowd. thats the key to success, not quail like frenzy.. look at a gem while still covered in mud and realise the beauty underneath. KQ will make me rich, just waiting for a few more signals
COOP, IMH, KQ, MTNU
Ericsson
#3015 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:01:42 PM
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@Obiero
Warren Buffet says be careful investing in a firm that has a huge debt portfolio and making losses.
How will it pay the debts it owes and with negative equity.
KCB can't be compared to KQ because KCB when Sunil Shah was buying had no debts;just making losses yet it had potential.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#3016 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:21:25 PM
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obiero wrote:
the dust shall settle upon full year results.. people like @vvs should read on how Sunil Shah made it to billionaire status.. buy when there is fear. never move with the crowd. thats the key to success, not quail like frenzy.. look at a gem while still covered in mud and realise the beauty underneath. KQ will make me rich, just waiting for a few more signals

Sunil Shah was the 'non-executive' director who pushed for the restructuring of KCB and was instrumental in its hiring choices as well as strategy. And he owned 10% [at one point] of KCB. Plus he was an experienced businessman. He made sure the old management was kicked out. 100% of them. Who is Alex Mbugua?


Name me a single director, on KQ's board, whose calibre matches Sunil Shah?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#3017 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:28:30 PM
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obiero wrote:
the dust shall settle upon full year results.. people like @vvs should read on how Sunil Shah made it to billionaire status.. buy when there is fear. never move with the crowd. thats the key to success, not quail like frenzy.. look at a gem while still covered in mud and realise the beauty underneath. KQ will make me rich, just waiting for a few more signals


If you belief in KQ so much, buy yourself a substantial holding. KES 5,000 worth of shares... That is Nyongo's lunch at Kempiski. You need to invest at least the equivalent of Vera Sidika's weave!
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#3018 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:38:31 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
the dust shall settle upon full year results.. people like @vvs should read on how Sunil Shah made it to billionaire status.. buy when there is fear. never move with the crowd. thats the key to success, not quail like frenzy.. look at a gem while still covered in mud and realise the beauty underneath. KQ will make me rich, just waiting for a few more signals

Sunil Shah was the 'non-executive' director who pushed for the restructuring of KCB and was instrumental in its hiring choices as well as strategy. And he owned 10% [at one point] of KCB. Plus he was an experienced businessman. He made sure the old management was kicked out. 100% of them. Who is Alex Mbugua?


Name me a single director, on KQ's board, whose calibre matches Sunil Shah?

Pieter Elbers, Rague, Ogwapit, Wanjiku.. These are pedigree directors at KQ.. FYI, Sunil Shah has never held more than 2% of KCB issued shares @ericsson good knowledge of KCB there.. atleast you detest propaganda @sparkly I have more than 1m pending on the wings for KQ.. Come full year, I am bound to go in big
COOP, IMH, KQ, MTNU
sparkly
#3019 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:41:37 PM
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Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:


We are ready for the temporary losses. Soon we shall reach the desired place @maka @spikes @aguy @afroblk @muganda.. People have a new profession in bashing KQ, but they dont bother to tell you operating loss went down by KES 8.3B and that the loss before income tax actually narrowed marginally prior to consideration of the tax expense, noting last year KRA gave in a huge tax credit of backdated sums.. A trying period, but all is not lost. The writing is on the wall..


The figures tell a story. The story that KQ will be in trouble for a long long time.

Let us review in exactly five months, I have reason to believe the worst is behind us. Todays top gainer??


Problem with KQ is a very weak topline. The company needs to double the topline just to break even. I doubt if they are covering their fixed costs.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Ericsson
#3020 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:50:01 PM
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Location: NAIROBI
@Obiero
VituVingiSana is right
At one point Sunil Shah owned 10% of KCB shares split amongst the following;
Him himself;shares held under his name
Through a nominee account for United Millers that he used to invest in KCB.
But he has been gradually reducing his stake and investing the money in putting up commercial complexes like United Mall in Kisumu
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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