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disaster for Eaagads share price
Wa_ithaka
#41 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 12:36:50 PM
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QD-this is something that Aly Khan does regularly i.e. ramping shares that he has an interest in.
As a minimum, I think he should always declare his shareholding interest. Once I realised he holds shares in all 3 agriculture stocks and Safcon, but rarely mentions it, I've distrusted anything he says
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guru267
#42 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 12:44:59 PM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
it'd also have been required to confirm or disconfirm the rumours that drove the shares up last week.
This is the NSE though...


@Wa_ithaka this is a complete lie and fallacy... Is it eaagads that started the rumour... NO!!! so they can take as long as they want to quell the rumour and benefit as much they want from the speculation
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mwanahisa
#43 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 12:58:11 PM
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I think we have not heard the last of this saga.

I think that at some point in the future, Eaagads will indeed convert their land to some alternative use other than growing coffee and timber. The question is when. So perhaps it is worth buying when the excitement dies down for those who are able to hold. I do not expect Renaissance to be satisfied with the measly returns that Coffee farming brings in.

I am now actually considering augmenting my stake.

Before I do so, I am trying to establish how much land does Eaagads actually own. I misplaced my annual report from the Co. although, I do not think that information was given. I have seen two conflicting reports in recent press reports. 1 has 487 acres while today's Biz Daily has it at 385.8 Hectares. Does anyone have the exact acreage?
Sober
#44 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 1:00:02 PM
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35,700 shares traded so far. the 10% rule is cushioning the fall, so we have to wait until tommorrow to record a price of 63 per share.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
QD
#45 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 1:00:16 PM
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Though not aculprit on Eaagards, but i feel cheated by the NSE as it seems much of insider informations is riding the trades while CMA aka Stella are toothles.
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
Wa_ithaka
#46 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 1:01:09 PM
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guru267-we've spoken about commenting about things you know little about.
Just a couple of links to prove that in other markets, a company must disconfirm/confirm rumours that drive its shareprice

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7087451.stm
http://www.onwallstreet....-branches-2667279-1.html
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Sober
#47 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07:23 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Wa_ithaka wrote:
it'd also have been required to confirm or disconfirm the rumours that drove the shares up last week.
This is the NSE though...


@Wa_ithaka this is a complete lie and fallacy... Is it eaagads that started the rumour... NO!!! so they can take as long as they want to quell the rumour and benefit as much they want from the speculation


nothing is impossible with this counter. this share once traded at 75.00 a share on April fools day.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
the deal
#48 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 1:09:24 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
I think we have not heard the last of this saga.

I think that at some point in the future, Eaagads will indeed convert their land to some alternative use other than growing coffee and timber. The question is when. So perhaps it is worth buying when the excitement dies down for those who are able to hold. I do not expect Renaissance to be satisfied with the measly returns that Coffee farming brings in.

I am now actually considering augmenting my stake.

Before I do so, I am trying to establish how much land does Eaagads actually own. I misplaced my annual report from the Co. although, I do not think that information was given. I have seen two conflicting reports in recent press reports. 1 has 487 acres while today's Biz Daily has it at 385.8 Hectares. Does anyone have the exact acreage?

SELL...Eaagards has been canibalised...i cant believe u also fell for this.
guru267
#49 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 1:14:14 PM
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[quote=Wa_ithaka]guru267-we've spoken about commenting about things you know little about.
Just a couple of links to prove that in other markets, a company must disconfirm/confirm rumours that drive its shareprice

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7087451.stm
http://www.onwallstreet....branches-2667279-1.html[/quote]

@Wa_ithaka please don't argue with me...

From the links you have given NOWHERE does it say that is A REQUIREMENT for a company to comment on rumors... The only reason they may choose to do it is because of ethical reasons.

The key word is REQUIREMENT my broda
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synergia
#50 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 1:16:36 PM
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[quote=Wa_ithaka]guru267-we've spoken about commenting about things you know little about.
Just a couple of links to prove that in other markets, a company must disconfirm/confirm rumours that drive its shareprice

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7087451.stm
http://www.onwallstreet....branches-2667279-1.html[/quote]

@Waithaka i believe Guru is right the company can comment if they wish,

In both links you have given us the companies both barclays and Morgan Stanely were forced to comment because the romour was affecting there companies share price negatively,

you will come to see that companies rarely comment on stock prices when the information favors the share price.

An example is the current KK debacle with the governement where KK made statements daily just to assure investors but when the info favors the company that will never happen.
mwanahisa
#51 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 1:27:34 PM
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the deal wrote:

SELL...Eaagards has been canibalised...i cant believe u also fell for this.


I had indicated that I have some Eaagads that I bought quite a while ago, and YES I have not sold them. They are not too many, so the share price drop is not bothering me unduly. I did not buy in the most recent frenzy, so I can assure you that I did NOT fall for it. If you can come up with a post that says otherwise, please feel free to post it.

In any event I was rather busy with KQ (where I have a substantial stake) to give too much thought to Eaagads.

I do see a buying opportunity into Eaagads, because after all they do have a valuable asset which is land. I am certain that Renaisance did not buy in for the Coffee. Now, let's see how low the price goes. If it falls hard enough, I will be a buyer. I can be quite patient when I need to be.
mwanahisa
#52 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 1:29:34 PM
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And by the way @the deal, how has Eaagads been cannibalised? As far as I am aware it is only the shareholders that changed. Or do you have information that we do not?
the deal
#53 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 1:37:20 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
And by the way @the deal, how has Eaagads been cannibalised? As far as I am aware it is only the shareholders that changed. Or do you have information that we do not?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I only know what the public knows...but if you keenly go through the posts here you might get the answer for what you are look for...
ndumesidubu
#54 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 1:46:06 PM
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[quote=Wa_ithaka]guru267-we've spoken about commenting about things you know little about.
Just a couple of links to prove that in other markets, a company must disconfirm/confirm rumours that drive its shareprice

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7087451.stm
http://www.onwallstreet....branches-2667279-1.html[/quote]
W disconfirmimg/confirming the rumour for most if not all this firms is dependent on the relationship of the rumour to the direction of price, the examples here were in disfavour of the said companies' share price, a company will take its sweetest time to disconfirm if the rumour is in its favour despite it's being unethical if not illegal. Eegads apparently did not mind riding the glory wave while it lasted ...wouldn't you?
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simonkabz
#55 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 1:55:43 PM
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@the deal, cannibalised by who? How? Stop sending pple on a wild goose chase n hit the nail on the head. Preposterous utterances will take a heavy toll on ua credibility.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
fresher2010
#56 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 2:05:16 PM
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Am very new and fresh in the NSE, and i think am learning a lot through wazua.....anyway thank God i followed Franklin Templeton principles of not following the crowd & avoiding the popular!!...now waiting for when the market is most pessimistic..
Jamaa wa mjengo
the deal
#57 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 2:14:26 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
@the deal, cannibalised by who? How? Stop sending pple on a wild goose chase n hit the nail on the head. Preposterous utterances will take a heavy toll on ua credibility.


Woow some of you guys are to serious...LOL..Whats Cannibalism? act of eating one self or alike speceis...google Brett Kebble....read his story...my credibility? i do what i say..
simonkabz
#58 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 2:21:06 PM
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Having read most of ua posts, I have come to a sad conclusion that u r just a noise maker. Its hard to identify the legs fm the arms in ua posts, and content is apparently lacking. People who just want to confuse others using overconfident allegations
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
2012
#59 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 2:32:51 PM
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So I guess we should expect another 9.something fall tomorrow.....

BBI will solve it
:)
mwanahisa
#60 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 2:42:35 PM
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2012 wrote:
So I guess we should expect another 9.something fall tomorrow.....


Looks like it, as there are no bids for the shares on offer.
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