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KQ H1 2010-11 Results
moneydust
#41 Posted : Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:44:37 PM
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The results aren't any good ....the devil is in the detail
the deal
#42 Posted : Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:49:09 PM
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moneydust wrote:


The results aren't any good ....the devil is in the detail


Elaborate please...what do you see that we dont see?
PKoli
#43 Posted : Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:52:20 PM
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moneydust wrote:


The results aren't any good ....the devil is in the detail


Have you read the annual results?
moneydust
#44 Posted : Saturday, November 06, 2010 7:23:38 PM
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the deal wrote:
moneydust wrote:


The results aren't any good ....the devil is in the detail


Elaborate please...what do you see that we dont see?




Their operating performance may be good for now...but their foreign currency hedges are not..
look at their consolidated statement of comprehensive income for more details..
alustaadh
#45 Posted : Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:23:23 PM
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moneydust wrote:
the deal wrote:
moneydust wrote:


The results aren't any good ....the devil is in the detail


Elaborate please...what do you see that we dont see?




Their operating performance may be good for now...but their foreign currency hedges are not..
look at their consolidated statement of comprehensive income for more details..

thuoght so too. better wait for Q2 results.
It is humiliating to be associated with thieves and murderers.
the deal
#46 Posted : Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:30:53 PM
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alustaadh wrote:
moneydust wrote:
the deal wrote:
moneydust wrote:


The results aren't any good ....the devil is in the detail


Elaborate please...what do you see that we dont see?




Their operating performance may be good for now...but their foreign currency hedges are not..
look at their consolidated statement of comprehensive income for more details..

thuoght so too. better wait for Q2 results.

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You guys dont know what u are talking about yes wait for Q2...come Monday i will be laughing all the way to the bank.
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#47 Posted : Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:22:50 PM
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@alustaadh, Reading Company Results 101, Q2 is the same as saying H1..
bartum
#48 Posted : Sunday, November 07, 2010 9:52:24 AM
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the DOW is now 11444 and heading record 11500, now that KQ is largely driven up by foreign activity, fuel now $87 a barrel having hedged at $76. Dollar now 80, tourism season bullish H2 eps above 3.5 forward pe 6.6. Sell to me tommorow and i will wait 20% gain for xmass.
PKoli
#49 Posted : Sunday, November 07, 2010 12:43:27 PM
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Let us wait for KQ activity next week, in particular the behaviour of foreigners.

I feel anything below 50 is a bargain
VituVingiSana
#50 Posted : Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:35:03 PM
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The 'unrealized' losses did not affect IMMEDIATE cash flow but will drain cash going into the future unless oil prices 'rise'... [KQ has enough cash to pay off the hedges. KQ generated more than enough cash in 1H to pay them off]

These 'losses' will flow through the P&L account as they unwind but (hopefully) KQ can make more 'real' profits with the increased operations/flights during 2H... [If the hedges 'increase' in value for KQ then the losses on the hedges will also decrease]

I liked the results BUT I was not blown away... [I was expecting 3.60 not 3.11 but see below...]

The expenses had an additional 500mn for a leased plane that was returned... This is a one-off from what I understand... So if I were to 'add' that back to PBT then we have a decent set of results...
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