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My 2 cents
#41 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:27:53 PM
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groupielove wrote:
I am totally water melon...I receive with my green sim and call with my red sim.

If you use your green card to call a safcom number you get to save 1 bob. And saving money is your intention, isn't it? Since 80% are on safcom, I see you using your green card a lot more than the red.
poundfoolish
#42 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2010 8:31:58 PM
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on the war front and out manoeuvering each other.. i think Safaricon wins hands down..

Im all for Safaricom,Their team is made of schemers..
Arina has been packaging and selling us undervalued goods for years, and we still joined in hoards..
safaricom made some money for the few days with crossover calls.. today they have decided to curb the outflow with this kubamba fiasco...
Lets see if Bharti will sustain the salvo which makes no business sense at all, i dont think they can sustain it especially if safaricom decides to fight back..they are sitting on some billion in reserves.

Its wait and see from the SufferiCon side of life for me.. If bharti wins.. ill clap bow pick my belongings and ask walionitangulia wanisongee nikae
bepari
#43 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:29:39 PM
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selah wrote:
Quote:
ust curious,do all BAT shareholders smoke?
'majengo sirudi tena'

If you are a wazuan/INVESTOR smoker and you dont own a piece of BAT.Man what a waste.

if you aint livin on the edge,you are taking too much space....
bepari
#44 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:43:07 PM
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selah wrote:
Quote:
ust curious,do all BAT shareholders smoke?
'majengo sirudi tena'

If you are a wazuan/INVESTOR smoker and you dont own a piece of BAT.Man what a waste.

its the duty of the mgmt to deliver unresistable products to the market,thats why we pay them.if they dont deliver, fire them.
dont subsidize ignorance and ineptitude with shareholder loyalty.
'majengo sirudi tena'!
if you aint livin on the edge,you are taking too much space....
kenmac
#45 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:23:06 PM
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bepari wrote:
selah wrote:
Quote:
ust curious,do all BAT shareholders smoke?
'majengo sirudi tena'

If you are a wazuan/INVESTOR smoker and you dont own a piece of BAT.Man what a waste.

its the duty of the mgmt to deliver unresistable products to the market,thats why we pay them.if they dont deliver, fire them.
dont subsidize ignorance and ineptitude with shareholder loyalty.
'majengo sirudi tena'!

......Ecclesiastes
kenmac
#46 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:28:55 PM
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after a long wait for safaricom to lower their charges, they finally did...and with that gave retribution to our weary pockets and redemption from the slavery. If only Bharti would lower their price again to 1 bob, we would start making calls at 80cts on saf.
......Ecclesiastes
chris79
#47 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:14:06 PM
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Hata mimi nihesabu vile vile, safcom diehard here...
guru267
#48 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:30:28 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Kenyans are jazzing me completely.... Yaani guys are willing to remain "loyal" to a company that is fleecing them... I mean safcoms offer is lasting only 1MONTH and an sms remains more expensive than a call... And you still remain loyal ati because "safcom is kenyan"... Safcom shot itself in the foot by listing because now it has to maintain and grow shareholder value so it can't participate in these wars.... So all zain has to do is sit tight and wait....
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#49 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:36:57 PM
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For safcom shareholders... CCK reduced their interconnect rates by 47% while safcom has slashed its rates by 63%....
Now if my math works right there would be no net effect on safcom's revenue if they had also reduced by 47% but the loss of market share coupled with reduced margins.... Do you really see any increase in profits or dividends coming to you???
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
kyt
#50 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:42:25 PM
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gurt nice words, rational thinking but are i guess the big man sydrome still remains. Or is it green-peace, red-war? Just a thought! Mmmhhh!!!
LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
Tebes
#51 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:14:30 AM
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Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
guru267 wrote:
For safcom shareholders... CCK reduced their interconnect rates by 47% while safcom has slashed its rates by 63%....
Now if my math works right there would be no net effect on safcom's revenue if they had also reduced by 47% but the loss of market share coupled with reduced margins.... Do you really see any increase in profits or dividends coming to you???

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


No,
Safcon have just made an offer, for 30 days precisely, to woo you by their adjusted rates for that period. Just like a dude may offer to a girl to remain faithfull so long as for the next 30 days at a given price more agreeable than competitors.

Cant forgive SafCon for the time they used to charge me kshs 52/= per minute for calling the then Kencell.

TUMETOKA MBALI JAMENILaughing out loudly
"Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
guru267
#52 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:54:14 AM
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Tebes wrote:
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
guru267 wrote:
For safcom shareholders... CCK reduced their interconnect rates by 47% while safcom has slashed its rates by 63%....
Now if my math works right there would be no net effect on safcom's revenue if they had also reduced by 47% but the loss of market share coupled with reduced margins.... Do you really see any increase in profits or dividends coming to you???

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


No,
Safcon have just made an offer, for 30 days precisely, to woo you by their adjusted rates for that period. Just like a dude may offer to a girl to remain faithfull so long as for the next 30 days at a given price more agreeable than competitors.

Cant forgive SafCon for the time they used to charge me kshs 52/= per minute for calling the then Kencell.

TUMETOKA MBALI JAMENILaughing out loudly

@tebes it doesn't really matter.. If they decide to hike their rates after the 1month then they lose more market share... Either way safcom loses
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
KulaRaha
#53 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:51:34 AM
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And now post paid pay 3 bob to all networks....oh pls, give me a break, I can do that from a Zain bamba 5 or 10!

Plus you keep my deposit, and charge me a standing fee every month.

Bye bye Safcon...let these die hard mtejas who you fleeced sustain you...Im gone!
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Abunuasi
#54 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:03:47 AM
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Safaricom is my choice day and night, in rain or sunshine.
The success of any service provider wolrdwide is measured by the products and services they offer.
Zain is enganging in a won battle. They have lost severally and this time is not an exception.
A technical knock out is what they are asking for...
Watch this space!!!
My 2 cents
#55 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:02:54 AM
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By the way, what are the safaricom non-diehards doing in this post???????????????????? Zain has changed names three times, strategy a million times, it did not work. What makes you think it is different this time round? GO SAFCOM GO.....
Abunuasi
#56 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:07:55 AM
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My babu once told me.
"Kaindi kaarwa gatitigaa kwarwa"

Wont be shocked to see them change name to Zainful (Painful) of Bharti (Bahati)- Hoping for luck
simonkabz
#57 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:12:10 AM
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My oh my! Its now a personal contest? Read the two comments above n tell me they dnt border on political fanatism....I go 4 neither, I go 4 the cheapest.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
radio
#58 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:00:16 AM
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fantony wrote:
10 things i do not like about zain, telkom and yu...
1.poor customer service
2.poor customer service
3.poor customer service
4.identity crisis (Kencell, celtel, zain)
5.internet infrastructure (lack of)
6.poor dissemination of information about simple things such as voice mail set up
7.limited bouquet of products
8.long queues at the only customer center (zain - only 1 in the CBD) i know..
9.poor customer service
10.poor customer service


Are you sure? I use Orange on my dual and their 1,2 & 3 are excellent.
fantony
#59 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:06:11 AM
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i asked an orange guy for details of a customer care centre and he has no idea..

KulaRaha
#60 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:58:56 AM
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Who is Orange?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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