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animosity towards muslims of somali origin
callaspade
#21 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 1:58:35 PM
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The point is....every Friday that there are "demon-strations" from Jamia Mosque,the traders at city market loose business.
This happens quite a lot.Unfortunately,Friday is the most important day for the business people there and they have decided not to sit back and make losses anymore.
During the "erections" of 07,the meat guys in dago felt the same and were ready to stop the "demon-strations" at all cost.
For sure, this chaps must style up as they seem to be alienating themselevs with this behaviours.
Take coast for eg.with no tourism,the coast guy is buried.Forget the port because they cannot offload even a pencil from the table.Better defined as laziness.
Now the capture ship (as their core business...are paid 525 million on their latest),sell guns in eastleigh,bring duty free cargo for unscrupulous traders etc etc,....
They go to upmarket areas abd buy oall the plots for double the price and we just look agape.haaa !
hey... now they hawk meat in small vans illegally from buffe park to homes.
They want to operate above the law.
This must end otherwise somethings brewing.
U can turn a blind eye but alas,am not a prophet...
Wakanyugi
#22 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 2:53:43 PM
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Friends,

I am really embarrassed to read this thread. I thought we were done with small mindedness after the ethnic hate-fest we indulged in a year ago.

Someone even advances the hollow theory that fostering a common hatred of Somalis will help unite Kenyan tribes and thus solve our problems. How far did our united hatred of Kikuyu's take us? May I remind you that most of the Muslims and/or Somalis' that you so quickly rush to condemn wholesale are are Kenyans.

I am especially sad to see some people whose opinion I previously respected rush to preach such a race to the bottom.

Shame on you!
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
genius32
#23 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 3:20:00 PM
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@Murenj & Wakanyugi... Lets be honest gentlemen.. or is it ladies? I don't get how you managed to read the 'animosity towards muslims of somali origin' into fridays events. Wananchi's reactions were against a group of muslims whose actions were seen as being totally unjustified and ridiculous... causing a breach of peace on a totally bogus premise. I bet no mwananchi took notice of whether they were somali, kikuyu, turkana or whatever tribe - this was just a bunch of guys who were being a nuisance and when majority of the observers got fed up the reaction was spontaneous - shut them up by whatever means.

Kind of reaction you would have with someone who's being painfully unreasonable and annoying - you want to give them a resounding slap...
muganda
#24 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 3:26:51 PM
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@Wakanyugi Applause courageous and wise.

Must confess that I identify with the majority of views expressed by all the members here - seriously it takes no effort to do so. It's about time muslims of somali origin begun respecting others sentiments. And the riot on Friday was very ill advised and only served to evoke @Gordon Gekko and @Njunge sentiments of 'go to hell'


I'm trying though, to distinguish and keep in mind many dynamic muslim/somali personalities I admire:
-those bright ones who make it big in Kenya business coming from the arid North Eastern to earn all our respect
-those enterprising ones who have become the preferred mobile/mpesa dealers in the country
-those prayerful ones who give an example for other religions to emulate their piety
-those good looking pretty ones who when social make up the spreads of glossy magazines
-etc etc

IT'S TOUGH BUT I'M TRYING, and Kenya would not be the same without them.
Ngalaka
#25 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 3:36:56 PM
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@Wakanyungi

Granted, advocating for wholesale hatred may not be a neat thing to do.

But then, how easy is it to love fellows who advocate that Kenya continues to host a suspected terror agent, in the league of Osama?

Further, if you were in Kenya from Friday through to today, you will have noticed that the 'demonstrators' had some very interesting characters in their midst with other agenda over and above Al faisal.

We saw hoods, Military fatigues, Writings in Arabic, Al Shabab flags, Taunts to Kenyans - to slit throats etc.
Those are fellows bringing war to Kenyans' door step.
However hard we try, it will remain very difficult to embrace such characters of people.
As the matter raged, we never heard any of the moderate Muslims raise a finger and or discourage their brothers.

What they are saying so belated, is what they ought to have said right from the word go.

Talk of locking the stable after the Horse has bolted.
We must learn to confront some os these ills head on and stop the pretence at good culturedness in the face of a terrorist minded goons.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
simonkabz
#26 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 6:01:16 PM
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Call me a tribalist or woteva, bt we have been grooming/stroking/carressing an enemy of the state 4far too long. We will have ourselves to blame if that will b the trend. Al Shabaab is real. Somalis r sympathisers of their own, albeit naturally...
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
muganda
#27 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 6:11:11 PM
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Looo! @Njung'e I see the policeman who was shot is still alive on my TV
Wakanyugi
#28 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 6:19:35 PM
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Granted this is a free country and people are entitled to their opinions, no matter how odious they are. But the gist of this thread is wholesale condemnation of Somali's and Muslims, without bothering to distinguish between the rioters and the many upright members of this congregation (thanks Muganda for trying).

It is this rush to wholesale condemnation that brought our nation to the brink recently. I recall many people here lamenting the errors of our ways then and even swearing 'never again.'

How quickly we forget.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
bkismat
#29 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:12:55 AM
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Just read what has been happening in Jos Nigeria for the last 3 days. Looks like Nairobi is heading that way.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
marting
#30 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:26:13 AM
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Location: Nairobi, Kenya
WOW, am shocked at fellow wazuaits turning on each other, but pleased at the patriotism toward the end....my 2cents; fear breads hatred and tribalistic tendencies, we need to be open minded and not invoke wholesome generalizations especially of muslim community, we HAVE TO care for each other. that being said, little room shld be given to radical islam/ hate preaching frm all religions especially due to the nature of our porous borders.Kenya is for ALL kenyans and illegal immigration should not be encourged since it begins the vicious cycle of fear/intolerance.
and as this friday, we brace ourselves for more strife esp. at the coast lets remember the real issues- do we continue believing that this "Jamaican sheikh" is not a threat to us Kenyans???
.Success is Intentional.
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